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When you finish editing this page, I think that it should be moved to Island (novel) or something of that sort. But the page looks great so far :-). ugen64 23:56, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)

Oh, and don't sign your name at the end of articles :-). Thanks, ugen64 00:19, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)

That large yellow box in the midle of the page needs to go, too. RickK | Talk 00:25, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Yeah, I was thinking aobut that as well. ugen64 23:24, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)

Island vs. Brave New World Table

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Can we PLEASE delete this table and turn it into a bulletted list? RickK | Talk 01:21, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)~

I agree, I don't like the table, but a bullet list wouldn't put them into contrasting columns which is the whole point. Anyone know a better way? --Karuna8 03:16, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If nothing else, the table seems to be missing its index column.... 62.196.17.197 (talk) 16:14, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What's What

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How about a section on the Old Raja's Notes on What's What? I thought that was one of the best parts of the novel, and I learn something new every time I read it.
"'I' affirms a separate and abiding me substance. 'Am' denies the fact that all existence is relationship and change. 'I Am' two tiny words but what an enormity of untruth!"

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I re-added the link to http://www.island.org/Huxley/ with the correct capitilisitaion, (the old one didn't work). I'm assuming it was removed by 89.61.71.62 due to the link failing, not because the site is un-notable. --Tomhannen 13:33, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Islandfhjkm.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 23:37, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New Age again

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In seeking to reconcile Western science and Eastern mysticism, Island can be considered a more intelligent and circumspect manifestation of the New Age Movement.

For the umpteenth time, most psychedelic proponents have nothing to do with the New Age Movement. I don't know who keeps adding this to all the psychedelic articles, but I'm removing it, again. Viriditas (talk) 14:29, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

MacPhelan did not shipwreck on Pala

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He went there by invitation to cure the cancer of the old raja. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.28.124.254 (talk) 12:17, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Worst. Article. Ever!

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I came to this page to see if this was a book I would want to read, and I couldn't even figure out what genre it is! No description of the concept of the book, no plot synopsis, only analysis. Fix please.--DnivyØ (talk) 18:53, 9 October 2009 (UTC) Maybe because the importance of this book is not the plot but the themes. Like starship troopers the things that happened to the main character were unimportant but the ideas expressed repeatedly were the entire point of the book. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.111.105.81 (talk) 18:07, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Plot Synopsis

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This article should have a plot synopsis. It doesn't matter whether themes are important, it still requires some form of a plot synopsis. Many other novels with just as well-developed themes have a plot synopsis, and this book should be no exception.--137.146.143.108 (talk) 00:01, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. The whole article is more like an essay, constructed from personal opinions about the novel's themes, relationship to other works, and what Huxley was apparently thinking when he wrote certain scenes. None of it is independently verified - there is not a single citation throughout. Are articles about literary works held to a lower standard than those in the rest of WP? Just dreadful. 58.7.82.99 (talk) 06:24, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup

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Note, I'm going to try working on this in the next few weeks. Viriditas (talk) 23:26, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Two weeks is up?

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I do appreciate all the effort that goes into all articles, but the "Plot Summary" here would be better titled "Plot Details"...and in the end, eliminated. "Major Themes" and the table are enough to give visitors an idea of what the book is about.--50.68.140.76 (talk) 19:04, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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"Island Huxley novel" listed at Redirects for discussion

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A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Island Huxley novel. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 24#Island Huxley novel until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 19:52, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Governance (article mentions democracy)

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The word "democracy" is mentioned in the article's Major Themes section. In Island (prior to Pala's forced unification with Rendang-Lobo, effected by Colonel Dipa's swoop on the country), did Huxley portray (or even give hints of) the structure, processes, and 'means' of Pala's governance? Was there an elected legislative assembly? Were there actual laws? If so, how were they enforced? Or was there a council of wise persons (whose practical guidance was heeded)?

"The Old Raja" was an ideologist of the new society. Was the Rani a sort of "New Raja" before her son was to be installed? What power did the Rani have?

Or did Huxley leave these dimensions vague?Joel Russ (talk) 00:50, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not science fiction

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On 8 December 1963, his widow Laura wrote a long letter to Julian & Juliette Huxley about the final stages of Aldous's life, including details of his death. She said, inter alia:

  • Aldous was, I think (and certainly I am) appalled at the fact that what he wrote in ISLAND was not taken seriously. It was treated as a work of science fiction, when it was not fiction because each one of the ways of living he described in ISLAND was not a product of his fantasy, but something that had been tried in one place or another and some of them in our own everyday life.

Comments? -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 21:34, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]