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The responsibility to explain recent changes lies with the user who recently provided new information, especially given that the material was disputed. Please, do so. — Sadko(words are wind)10:13, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's quite ridiculous that this happens every time anything remotely "negative " about Serbia is added to the article. It took an entire RfC just to add a basic link to crime in Serbia, so I'm not surprised to see a well sourced section removed on dubious grounds. It seems the priority on this article is a little bit too focused on bragging about sports rather than giving a balanced and neutral overview of the country as a whole.
We can have a section dedicated to telecommunications, but not human rights.
I think there is a wider issue on this article than just recent changes, there is a pretty clear nationalistic opposition to anything critical of Serbia being added to the article. The problem is this isn't a propaganda site, it's meant to be a neutral encyclopedia and it is WP:NOTCENSORED.
@Sadko Since you opted to remove everything that was added about human rights rather than trimming it and incorporating it into an existing section, what section do you propose this information is added to given that the edit included several high quality up to date sources? What sources do you feel should be added to offer a more balanced overview? TylerBurden (talk) 19:50, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This was neither a high quality nor well informed section, it was per wp:cherrypicking included with pointing out different years with exclusively negative changes in it, and since this is contentious topic, editors should be aware of wp:neutrality policy, Sadko was correct in several points, that those statistics always changes, that other countries don't have it included in their articles, like Germany, USA or even Albania or Kosovo, and that this section was disproportionally too long, and since this article is summarisation of most important information about this country and the people - lots of parts are already included in contemporary period, i.e. there is a section that already states that: "According to a number of international analysts, Serbia has suffered from democratic backsliding into authoritarianism,[149][150][151] followed by a decline in media freedom and civil liberties." Furthermore there are articles about human rights that are specifically created to cover human rights issues of specific country. Theonewithreason (talk) 20:35, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I need to inform the administrators that the user Sadko has been blocked from editing Eastern Europe.[[1]] Again he started deleting sources and doing disruptive editing on Wikipedia. [[2]] 192.71.144.210 (talk) 11:06, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The new section I created is essential for understanding the current state of human rights in Serbia, particularly in light of significant concerns raised by reputable sources, including Amnesty International and the United States Department of State. This content highlights a notable decline in the observance of human rights since 2012, as detailed in the Freedom House Report and recognized internationally. Wikipedia encourages the inclusion of diverse perspectives, in accordance with WP:WEIGHT, and underscores the importance of citing reliable sources as outlined in its guidelines. The information presented in this section is well-supported by credible references, and removing it would not only compromise the article's integrity but also contradict Wikipedia's commitment to providing comprehensive and balanced coverage of critical issues. According to WP:UNCENSORED, content should not be removed simply because it is controversial or critical. I'm sorry but accept it. And also regarding WP:NPOV, the section aims to present factual information grounded in reputable sources, thereby contributing to a balanced representation of Serbia's human rights landscape. Iaof2017 (talk) 12:33, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is that really the case? From what I can tell, this looks like a classic example of WP:CHERRYPICK. All of this could be summarized in one or two sentences within the sections that already exist in the article. This addition is weak because it focuses on just a small part of a much larger topic, and strangely, it highlights only the negative aspects. Furthermore, similar sections are missing in many, if not most, articles about UN member states. For instance, the issue of Human rights in the USA is briefly mentioned with a link to the main article, and there's no separate section in the Germany article either. Given that this page is already overly long, with over 500 references and recent efforts to streamline some sections, adding more material (with even more to come) seems excessive. Once there's consensus on this issue, more sentences could be added if necessary. This addition, in my book, is simply way bellow the level of this article. Also, those statistcs often change, which has been the case with Serbia. There is none of that in the text you proposed. Also, please do not engage in EW and do not drag other editors into similiar situations.
Secondly, could you kindly point out where and when you achieved a clear consensus to include Milosevic's photo? What we need is a clear proof of concensus on this matter. I used the Visual Editor and didn’t notice the bold, caps-lock text you added, advising editors not to be bold and act based on their own judgment, which, all things considered, would likely lead to the image being removed. — Sadko(words are wind)13:57, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What policy based reasons do you have for removing the image of Milošević when he is one of if not the biggest topic of the section it accompanies? TylerBurden (talk) 19:54, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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