Talk:City of Ottawa
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[edit]Work in progress! Add as you please! -Joshuapaquin 22:43, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)
Why have this article and Ottawa
[edit]Shouldn't this page just be a redirect like other cities (see City of Toronto)? Some people might come here thinking this is all we have on wikipedia for the city of Ottawa! Mattximus (talk) 20:05, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
- This isn't an article on Ottawa the place, but rather on the corporate entity that serves as municipal government in Ottawa. The lead paragraph is quite clear that this is about the organization, not the place, and there is a clear link to the Ottawa article in the first sentence. I doubt anyone who reads this article would think this is the article on the place. If someone wanted to write up an article on the municipal body corporate for Canada's most populous city at City of Toronto, it would be open for them to do so.
Having said all that about the distinction between the two articles, this article doesn't have much content and probably could be merged. We could also look to see if there are other articles on the municipal level of government for other cities, and see if the article names use a different naming convention. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 21:35, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
- I think the best way is to summarize as much information as possible into the "Local government and politics" category of the main Ottawa page, and then create a page called Municipal government of Ottawa, similar to Municipal government of Toronto. Although there is no standard, I think this is more clear than calling the page "City of Ottawa" when talking about the municipal government of Ottawa. What do you think? Mattximus (talk) 00:01, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
- Hello. Sorry for the delay in responding. I somehow missed noticing your reply. I have no real strong opinion either way on this issue, and have no objection to moving this to Municipal government of Ottawa.--Skeezix1000 (talk) 16:22, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
- I agree with the proposed move as well. Newwhist (talk) 18:55, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
- Hello. Sorry for the delay in responding. I somehow missed noticing your reply. I have no real strong opinion either way on this issue, and have no objection to moving this to Municipal government of Ottawa.--Skeezix1000 (talk) 16:22, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
- I think the best way is to summarize as much information as possible into the "Local government and politics" category of the main Ottawa page, and then create a page called Municipal government of Ottawa, similar to Municipal government of Toronto. Although there is no standard, I think this is more clear than calling the page "City of Ottawa" when talking about the municipal government of Ottawa. What do you think? Mattximus (talk) 00:01, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
- This isn't an article on Ottawa the place, but rather on the corporate entity that serves as municipal government in Ottawa. The lead paragraph is quite clear that this is about the organization, not the place, and there is a clear link to the Ottawa article in the first sentence. I doubt anyone who reads this article would think this is the article on the place. If someone wanted to write up an article on the municipal body corporate for Canada's most populous city at City of Toronto, it would be open for them to do so.
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Proposed addition: Municipal finances
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Information to be added or removed: The City of Ottawa is expected to spend CAD $3.764 billion on operational expenditures in 2020[1]. Primary sources of funding will include: 46.7% from property taxes, 24.8% from fees and services charges and 18.9% from government grants. As of 2020, the municipal residential tax rate for the City of Ottawa was 0.515820%.[2] The municipal commercial property tax rate was 0.931752%.[2] The municipal industrial property tax rate was 1.290727%[2]. Additional taxes such as the Transit Zone levy, Ottawa Police Services levy, and Fire Services levy are also charged, but may vary between different regions, service areas, and property types. As of 2019, residents in the City of Ottawa can expect to pay a total property tax of close to 0.7571% of their home’s market value.
An additional CAD $813.8 million is expected to be spent on capital improvements and programs. Primary sources of funding will include: 68.5% from reserves, 14.5% from development charges and 15.5% from debt[1].
![City of Ottawa residential property tax rates between 2010 and 2020](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/Ottawa_Residential_Property_Tax_Rates_2010_-_2020.png/471px-Ottawa_Residential_Property_Tax_Rates_2010_-_2020.png)
Explanation of issue: Additional information regarding the municipal government of Ottawa's finances, especially in regards to property tax. I have included a picture sourced from my company that illustrates the changes in the property tax rates of Ottawa in the past 10 years. It has no visual attribution to my company, so I believe it can add value without stepping into the bounds of advertising. I have also included information regarding property tax rates relative to the market prices of properties. Property assessments in Ontario are conducted only once every 4 years and can significantly deviate from market prices of properties. The inclusion of a residential property tax rate relative to property prices helps readers get a better understanding of property tax rates relative to numbers (property prices) that are publicly available rather than private (assessed values). Our company established this finding through an analysis of over 60,000 property listings and sales throughout Ontario.
References supporting change: I have included references in my post. Let me know if different formatting is required. Residential property taxes relative to market prices were obtained from Wowa Leads' Ottawa Property Tax page. The domain has been unfairly blacklisted. I request that you review my request impartially on the basis of its content and value rather than the blacklist consideration.
COI Disclosure: I am an employee of Wowa Leads, Inc., a real estate and financial services company in Canada that aims to promote transparency in the real estate industry.
P.S. If you have any suggestions for the formatting of this section, or suggestions in general, please let me know. Bsl4canadian (talk) 17:22, 23 July 2020 (UTC) Bsl4canadian (talk) 17:22, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hi @Bsl4canadian, I'm declining this request for two reasons: (1) I personally don't feel this would improve the article, and (2) the sources you've suggested appear to be primary sources (see that link for why that's an issue).
- (1) Your suggested edit appears to be a quite in-depth description of taxes in Ottawa. Although a short, well-sourced summary of the city's taxes may have a place in this article, I feel that your proposed addition is too detailed (see WP:TMI for a short explanation of why I think that's an issue).
- (2) See WP:PRIMARY and WP:NOTSTATS (especially point no.3). Although your proposed addition appears to just be a statement of fact; I don't think that these statistics should necessarily be added to the article. If you can find secondary sources that discuss Ottawa's taxes, then that may be a useful addition to the article.
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References
- ^ a b Dept, Finance (2019-11-06). "2020 Budget highlights". ottawa.ca. Retrieved 2020-06-23.
- ^ a b c "City Of Ottawa - Doing Business In Ottawa - Property Tax Calculator". app06.ottawa.ca. Retrieved 2020-06-23.
current municipal master plan and the direction the city gov is heading in (essentially a "modern history" section, opening up easy oppurtinity to add past history, too~)
[edit]i plan on adding this regardless myself and this is meawnt to serve as a reminder. if its been a couple months since i posted this, and still havent gotten to it, please give me a message :) 🥰🥰 Lynxano (talk) 10:07, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
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