Wikipedia:Requested moves
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Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. For retitling files, categories and other items, see When not to use this page.
Please read the article titling policy and the guideline regarding primary topics before moving a page or requesting a page move.
Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves (see Help:How to move a page). If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:
- Technical reasons may prevent a move; for example, a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. See: § Requesting technical moves.
- Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
- A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested moves process is not mandatory, and sometimes an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
- Unregistered and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.
Requests are generally processed after seven days. If consensus to move the page is reached at or after this time, a reviewer will carry out the request. If there is a consensus not to move the page, the request will be closed as "not moved". When consensus remains unclear, the request may be relisted to allow more time for consensus to develop, or the discussion may be closed as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.
Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a move request as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of the move discussion to determine whether or not the contested close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines.
When not to use this page
Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:
- Making an uncontroversial move – if you can, be bold and do it yourself! If you can't, see § Requesting technical moves.
- Renaming a category – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- Renaming a stub template – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- Renaming an image or other file – see Wikipedia:Moving a page § Moving a file page.
- Moves from draft namespace or user space to article space – Unconfirmed users: add
{{subst:submit}}
to the top of the article. See Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Confirmed users: Move the page yourself. - Merging two articles – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers, or be bold and do it yourself.
- Splitting an article – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed article splits, or be bold and do it yourself.
- Requesting that page histories be merged – list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge.
- Contesting a move request close – use the Wikipedia:Move review process.
Undiscussed moves
Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:
- No article exists at the new target title;
- There has been no previous discussion about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
- It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.
If you disagree with a prior bold move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move yourself. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons, then you may request a technical move.
Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.
If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "The/This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."
If you are here because you want an admin to approve of your new article or your proposed page move, you are in the wrong place.
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- To list a technical request: Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the bottom of the list, filling in pages and reason:
This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.{{subst:RMassist|current page title|new title|reason=edit summary for the move}}
the - If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~. Consider pinging the requester to let them know about the objection.
- If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.
Technical requests
Uncontroversial technical requests
Requests to revert undiscussed moves
- Kids in the Street (album) → Kids in the Street (move · discuss) – unnecessary disambiguation 162 etc. (talk) 18:35, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- The target has since been converted to a dab page by @Wikishovel, so it's best to ask before removing that dab, but there are many links pointing to it so the initial move definitely broke some stuff. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 18:43, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- I've dabbed the inbound links, sorry for not checking that after converting to dab. If consensus goes against the undiscussed move, then please ping me and I'll undab them again. Wikishovel (talk) 19:55, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- No objection to dabpage. 162 etc. (talk) 18:57, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Wikishovel, with multiple albums on the dab page, should this go to Kids in the Street (The All-American Rejects album) instead? -2pou (talk) 19:53, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, that does seem to make sense. Wikishovel (talk) 20:25, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Wikishovel, with multiple albums on the dab page, should this go to Kids in the Street (The All-American Rejects album) instead? -2pou (talk) 19:53, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- No objection to dabpage. 162 etc. (talk) 18:57, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- I've dabbed the inbound links, sorry for not checking that after converting to dab. If consensus goes against the undiscussed move, then please ping me and I'll undab them again. Wikishovel (talk) 19:55, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Contested technical requests
- New Brunswick Legislature → List of New Brunswick Legislative Assemblies (currently a redirect back to New Brunswick Legislature) (move · discuss) – Article pretty much covers Legislative Assembly of New Brunswick, just with a list of sessions. This page should be renamed to "List of New Brunswick Legislative Assemblies" (which redirects to this article) and "New Brunswick Legislature" should serve as a redirect to the Legislative Assembly of New Brunswick article. B3251(talk) 18:56, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Overlap isn't that obvious, the New Brunswick Legislature article mentions
Today, the legislature is made of two elements: the lieutenant governor (representing the King of Canada) and the unicameral assembly called the Legislative Assembly of New Brunswick.
The article also discusses the earlier history of the legislature, where the Legislative Assembly was only one half of a bicameral legislature, and the earlier items on the list include both houses. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:38, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Overlap isn't that obvious, the New Brunswick Legislature article mentions
- San Lorenzo de Roma Church (Balagtas) → Balagtas Church (currently a redirect back to San Lorenzo de Roma Church (Balagtas)) (move · discuss) – The shorter name "Balagtas Church" is the more common name and not "San Lorenzo de Roma Church". Sanglahi86 (talk) 13:32, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Sanglahi86 A Google search shows this is probably not the WP:COMMONNAME. I suggest starting a WP:RM instead. C F A 💬 14:54, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Serviceton railway line → Ararat railway line (currently a redirect instead to Ballarat V/Line rail service) (move · discuss) – Revamped the article as the line has not been known as the "Serviceton railway line" since 1995, when the line past Ararat was converted to standard gauge and reopened as part of the then-new Western standard gauge line. Граймс (talk) 14:06, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Looking at the official V/Line maps, I can't find evidence of individual V/Lines having official names, do you have sources for "Ararat railway line" being the WP:COMMONNAME? Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 16:53, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- This article is about the physical rail line, not the V/Line service which runs on it. Both terminate at Ararat, since the rest of physical rail line was converted to standard gauge and connected to other lines to form the Western standard gauge railway line. As for V/Line, they treat their passenger service to Ararat as an extension of the Ballarat V/Line rail service (you can see that on the map you've linked, and the fact Ararat services share the Ballarat V/Line twitter account, or the fact vline.com.au only shows Ararat services after you click Ballarat, etc), so it's documented on that page instead. Граймс (talk) 11:40, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Looking at the official V/Line maps, I can't find evidence of individual V/Lines having official names, do you have sources for "Ararat railway line" being the WP:COMMONNAME? Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 16:53, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- MyLek (film) → Mylek (film) (move · discuss) – name correction 49.33.196.10 (talk) 15:29, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- If Mylėk is turned into a redirect to its creator Vilija Matačiūnaitė, perhaps the film should be moved to Mylek or MyLek. (I turned the former into a dab before realizing this.) Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 16:23, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- And if it isn't, per WP:SMALLDIFFERENCES, the film should be at MyLek (or Mylek (film)). The only question is which capitalization of the title is the most used, as the film's official material appears to use a mixed-script title that obviously can't be our article title. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 16:29, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- If Mylėk is turned into a redirect to its creator Vilija Matačiūnaitė, perhaps the film should be moved to Mylek or MyLek. (I turned the former into a dab before realizing this.) Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 16:23, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- KFF Tirana AS → Tirana AS (currently a redirect back to KFF Tirana AS) (move · discuss) – I had requested this move a few weeks back but I can't seem to find the request any longer. The actual name of the football team is Tirana AS. KFF that's added to the name title is incorrect. I have in my possesion a book from author Florent Hoxha titled "Futbolli Femëror Shqiptar", the only published book of its kind covering the history of Albanian women's football. In page 41, the author gives a brief profile of the club's history. Tirana AS is known as such from 2007 until at least 2021. The club was eventually disbanded. There is speculation it merged into a new club, known as KFF Tirana. I have yet to find a source that confirms this. Throughout the club's 15 year history, they have always been known as Tirana AS. This is reflected in their logo as well. In the 2020–21 table standings, they are still referred to as Tirana AS. Kj1595 (talk) 01:55, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Last month at RMT, Ahecht pinged Fjorilda09 to ask about their addition of Tirana AS's statistics to the KFF Tirana page. Several days passed with no response—even now, Fjorilda09 hasn't edited since 29 May 2024. Ahecht, are you still contesting this? Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 03:43, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- This article's title needs to change. Here is further proof as to why: During the 2021–22 season, both KFF Tirana and Tirana AS are listed in the table standings. So, the clubs could not possibly be one of the same. In this article published last year in the Albanian Football Federation's official website, it mentions the club being affiliated or attached to KFF Gramshi. Kj1595 (talk) 20:02, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Rotideypoc41352 It was unclear to me at the time as to whether such a change would be controversial to those that had maintained the statistics pages showing them at the same team, so I'll defer judgement to those more familiar with Albanian football. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:23, 2 July 2024 (UTC)- Thanks, Ahecht. Now that I'm looking at the article, though, it looks like there's at least one copy-paste move that happened (ComparePages for reference). I haven't the time to check further, but I am wondering if every time the article now at KFF Gramshi was moved (simplified move history:
- Tirana AS → KFF Tirana AS → KF Laçi Women → KFF Laçi → KFF Gramshi), if the article was completely rewritten and the old versions simply copied over the redirect from the move without proper attribution. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 17:49, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- I have written the Tirana AS article myself, gathering information from Florent Hoxha's book. This team has been known as Tirana AS from its foundation in 2007 until 2022. That's a span of 16 years. The name is displayed as such in the league standings for each season. This team has no affiliation with KFF Tirana, which is a separate club, part of the larger SK Tirana entity. Kj1595 (talk) 21:15, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Last month at RMT, Ahecht pinged Fjorilda09 to ask about their addition of Tirana AS's statistics to the KFF Tirana page. Several days passed with no response—even now, Fjorilda09 hasn't edited since 29 May 2024. Ahecht, are you still contesting this? Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 03:43, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Appellation d'origine protégée (Switzerland) → Appellation d'origine protégée (currently a redirect instead to Protected designation of origin) (move · discuss) – Unnecessary disambiguation. The French equivalent is known as Appellation d'origine contrôlée. 162 etc. (talk) 19:07, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- This currently points to Protected designation of origin, which is used across the EU, including France and Belgium where it is called "Appellation d'origine protégée". So the disambiguation is not that unnecessary. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Make dab then? 162 etc. (talk) 21:46, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- This currently points to Protected designation of origin, which is used across the EU, including France and Belgium where it is called "Appellation d'origine protégée". So the disambiguation is not that unnecessary. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hurricane Beryl (2024) → Hurricane Beryl (currently a redirect back to Hurricane Beryl (2024)) (move · discuss) – Consensus of talk page discussion. Nosferattus (talk) 19:24, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Nosferattus, once a formal RM is open, it is typically left open for a week before a formal consensus is determined by a neutral closer. You are also WP:INVOLVED in the discussion from a quick glance. -2pou (talk) 19:58, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- @2pou: In a week it won't matter. This is an article about a current natural disaster. Surely, there must be some way to act on the consensus without waiting a week. I guess we could do a cut and paste move, but that's frowned on. What do you suggest? Nosferattus (talk) 20:35, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- This is not an emergency, and having (2024) in the title for a few days is not a major issue. Once someone closes the RM (likely in a week, or maybe earlier if the consensus is obvious), it will be listed here, but it should be closed by a neutral party first. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:13, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- However, this storm is well agreed to be more important than the one other that's called a hurricane. The RM discussion has tilted strongly in favor. In the meantime, I redirected Hurricane Beryl to Hurricane Beryl (2024). People shouldn't need to look through a list of eight storms to find this major Cat 5 that has already set several records. It is the earliest-forming Category 5 (or even Category 4) Atlantic hurricane on record and the first major hurricane of the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season. — BarrelProof (talk) 00:53, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- At this point, an uninvolved admin should probably be closing it early, the consensus is pretty obvious. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 01:01, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- However, this storm is well agreed to be more important than the one other that's called a hurricane. The RM discussion has tilted strongly in favor. In the meantime, I redirected Hurricane Beryl to Hurricane Beryl (2024). People shouldn't need to look through a list of eight storms to find this major Cat 5 that has already set several records. It is the earliest-forming Category 5 (or even Category 4) Atlantic hurricane on record and the first major hurricane of the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season. — BarrelProof (talk) 00:53, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- This is not an emergency, and having (2024) in the title for a few days is not a major issue. Once someone closes the RM (likely in a week, or maybe earlier if the consensus is obvious), it will be listed here, but it should be closed by a neutral party first. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:13, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- @2pou: In a week it won't matter. This is an article about a current natural disaster. Surely, there must be some way to act on the consensus without waiting a week. I guess we could do a cut and paste move, but that's frowned on. What do you suggest? Nosferattus (talk) 20:35, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Nosferattus, once a formal RM is open, it is typically left open for a week before a formal consensus is determined by a neutral closer. You are also WP:INVOLVED in the discussion from a quick glance. -2pou (talk) 19:58, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Administrator needed
- Gubbi Gubbi people → Kabi Kabi people (currently a redirect back to Gubbi Gubbi people) (move · discuss) – I non-admin-closed the RM at Talk:Gubbi Gubbi people#Requested_move_19_June_2024. The page is move protected. Adumbrativus (talk) 19:03, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
The discussion process is used for potentially controversial moves. A move is potentially controversial if either of the following applies:
- there has been any past debate about the best title for the page;
- someone could reasonably disagree with the move.
Use this process if there is any reason to believe a move would be contested. For technical move requests, such as to correct obvious typographical errors, see Requesting technical moves. The technical moves procedure can also be used for uncontroversial moves when the requested title is occupied by an existing article.
Do not create a new move request when one is already open on the same talk page. Instead, consider contributing to the open discussion if you would like to propose another alternative. Multiple closed move requests may be on the same page, but each should have a unique section heading.
Do not create a move request to rename one or more redirects. Redirects cannot be used as current titles in requested moves.
Requesting a single page move
To request a single page move, click on the "New section" (or "Add topic") tab of the talk page of the article you want moved, without adding a new subject/header, inserting this code:
{{subst:requested move|New name|reason=Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically.}}
Replace New name
with the requested new name of the page (or with a simple question mark, if you want more than one possible new name to be considered). The template will automatically create the heading "Requested move 3 July 2024" and sign the post for you.
There is no need to edit the article in question. Once the above code is added to the Talk page, a bot will automatically add the following notification at the top of the affected page:
A request that this page title be changed is under discussion. Please do not move this page until the discussion is closed. |
Unlike other request processes on Wikipedia, such as Requests for comment, nominations need not be neutral. Make your point as best you can; use evidence (such as Google Ngrams and pageview statistics) and refer to applicable policies and guidelines, especially our article titling policy and the guideline on disambiguation and primary topics.
WikiProjects may subscribe to Article alerts to receive RM notifications. For example, Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Article alerts/Requested moves is transcluded to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography. RMCD bot notifies many of the other Wikiprojects listed on the talk page of the article to be moved to invite project members to participate in the RM discussion. Requesters should feel free to notify any other Wikiproject or noticeboard that might be interested in the move request, as long as this notification is neutral.
Single page move on a different talk page
Occasionally, a move request must be made on a talk page other than the talk page of the page to be moved. For example, a request to rename Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources to Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing and templates would need to take place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation because the talk page of the project page to be moved, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources, is a redirect to that centralized discussion page. In this type of case, the requested move should be made using the following code:
{{subst:requested move|reason=(the reason for the page move goes here).|current1=(present title of page to be renamed)|new1=(proposed title of page)}}
The |1=
unnamed parameter is not used. The |current1=
and |new1=
parameters are used similar to multiple page moves described below.
Requesting multiple page moves
A single template may be used to request multiple related moves. On one of the talk pages of the affected pages, create a request and format it as below. A sample request for three page moves is shown here (for two page moves, omit the lines for current3 and new3). For four page moves, add lines for current4 and new4, and so on. There is no technical limit on the number of multiple move requests, but before requesting very large multi-moves, consider whether a naming convention should be changed first. Discuss that change on the talk page for the naming convention, e.g., Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (sportspeople).
To request a multiple page move, edit at the bottom of the talk page of the article you chose for your request, without adding a new header, inserting this code:
{{subst:requested move
| current1 = Current title of page 1
| new1 = New title for page 1 with the talk page hosting this discussion
| current2 = Current title of page 2
| new2 = New title for page 2
| current3 = Current title of page 3
| new3 = New title for page 3
| reason = Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically.
}}
For example, to propose moving the articles Wikipedia
and Wiki
, put this template on Talk:Wikipedia
with current1
set to Wikipedia
and current2
set to Wiki
. The discussion for all affected articles is held on the talk page of the article where the template is placed (Talk:Wikipedia
). Do not sign the request with ~~~~
, since the template does this automatically (so if you sign it yourself there will be two copies of your signature at the end of the request). Do not skip pairs of numbers.
RMCD bot automatically places a notice section on the talk page of all pages that are included in your request except the one hosting the discussion, to call attention to the move discussion that is in progress and to suggest that all discussion for all of the pages included in the request should take place at that one hosting location.
For multi-move discussions hosted on a page which is itself proposed to be moved, it is not necessary to include the |current1=Current title of page 1
for the page hosting the discussion, as its current title can be inferred automatically. Occasionally the discussions for significant multi-move requests may be hosted on WikiProject talk pages or other pages in Project namespace, in which case it is necessary to include |current1=
to indicate the first article to be moved.
Request all associated moves explicitly
Please list every move that you wish to have made in your request. For example, if you wish to move Cricket (disambiguation) to Cricket because you do not believe the sport is the primary topic for the search term "Cricket", then you actually want to move two pages, both Cricket (disambiguation) and Cricket. Thus you must list proposed titles for each page affected by your request. For example, you might propose:
If a new title is not proposed for the sport, it is more difficult to achieve consensus for a new title for that article. A move request that does not show what to do with the material at its proposed target, such as:
is incomplete. Such requests may be completed as a request to decide the best new title by discussion.
- Cricket → ?
If a disambiguation page is in the way of a move, the request may be completed as proposing to add (disambiguation).
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Commenting on a requested move
All editors are welcome to contribute to the discussion regarding a requested page move. There are a number of standards that Wikipedians should practice in such discussions:
- When editors recommend a course of action, they write Support or Oppose in bold text, which is done by surrounding the word with three single quotes on each side, e.g.
'''Support'''
. - Comments or recommendations are added on a new bulleted line (that is, starting with *) and signed by adding
~~~~
to the end. Responses to another editor are threaded and indented using multiple bullets. - The article itself should be reviewed before any recommendation is made; do not base recommendations solely on the information supplied by other editors. It may also help to look at the article's edit history. However, please read the earlier comments and recommendations, as well as prior move requests. They may contain relevant arguments and useful information.
- Vested interests in the article should be disclosed per Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI.
When participating, please consider the following:
- Editors should make themselves familiar with the article titling policy at Wikipedia:Article titles.
- Other important guidelines that set forth community norms for article titles include Wikipedia:Disambiguation, specific naming conventions, and the manual of style.
- The debate is not a vote; please do not make recommendations that are not sustained by arguments.
- Explain how the proposed article title meets or contravenes policy and guidelines rather than merely stating that it does so.
- Nomination already implies that the nominator supports the name change, and nominators should refrain from repeating this recommendation on a separate bulleted line.[a]
- Do not make conflicting recommendations. If you change your mind, use strike-through to retract your previous statement by enclosing it between <s> and </s> after the bullets, and de-bold the struck words, as in "•
SupportOppose".
Please remember that reasonable editors will sometimes disagree, but that arguments based in policy, guidelines, and evidence have more weight than unsupported statements. When an editor offers an argument that does not explain how the move request is consistent with policies and guidelines, a reminder to engage in constructive, on-topic discussion may be useful. On the other hand, a pattern of responding to requests with groundless opinion, proof by assertion, and ignoring content guidelines may become disruptive. If a pattern of disruptive behavior persists after efforts are made to correct the situation through dialogue, please consider using a dispute resolution process.
Closing a requested move
Any uninvolved editor in good standing may close a move request. Please read the closing instructions for information on how to close a move request. The Simple guide to closing RM discussions details how to actually close a requested move discussion.
Relisting a requested move
Relisting a discussion moves the request out of the backlog up to the current day in order to encourage further input. The decision to relist a discussion is best left to uninvolved experienced editors upon considering, but declining, to close the discussion. In general, discussions should not be relisted more than once before properly closing.[b] Users relisting a debate which has already been relisted, or relisting a debate with a substantial discussion, should write a short explanation on why they did not consider the debate sufficient to close. While there is no consensus forbidding participation in a requested move discussion after relisting it, many editors consider it an inadvisable form of supervote. If you want to relist a discussion and then participate in it, be prepared to explain why you think it was appropriate.
Relisting should be done using {{subst:RM relist}}
, which automatically includes the relister's signature, and which must be placed at the very end of the initial request after the move requester's signature (and subsequent relisters' signatures).
When a relisted discussion reaches a resolution, it may be closed at any time according to the closing instructions; there is no required length of time to wait before closing a relisted discussion.
If discussion has become stale, or it seems that discussion would benefit from more input of editors versed in the subject area, consider more widely publicizing the discussion, such as by notifying WikiProjects of the discussion using the template {{RM notification}}. Banners placed at the top of the talk page hosting the move request can often be used to identify WikiProjects suitable for notification.
Notes
- ^ A nominator making a procedural nomination with which they may not agree is free to add a bulleted line explaining their actual position. Additional detail, such as sources, may also be provided in an additional bullet point if its inclusion in the nomination statement would make the statement unwieldy. Please remember that the entire nomination statement appears on the list on this page.
- ^ Despite this, discussions are occasionally relisted more than once.
- This section lists all requests filed or identified as potentially controversial which are currently under discussion.
Do not attempt to edit this list manually; a bot will automatically update the page soon after the {{subst:Requested move}} template is added to the discussion on the relevant talk page. The entry is removed automatically soon after the discussion is closed. To make a change to an entry, make the change on the linked talk page. |
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July 3, 2024
- (Discuss) – Oho Ou → Ou Hao – His name in Chinese characters is 欧豪 (Ōu Háo in pinyin). It's written in Latin script on posters, disc cases and distributors' pages for films he's acted in as Ou Hao. Some examples: * [1] * [2] * [3] (in the billing block on the back) * [4] (in the billing block on the back) * [5] (in the billing block on the back). It's written in Latin script on the covers of music releases and on Apple Music etc. as OHO, which is written as one word but sounds like both syllables of his full Chinese name. The current article title, "Oho Ou", is a weird, unofficial mash-up of the above two spellings that makes no sense because it contains the Ōu sound of his family name twice (as Oh- and then Ou), both before and after the Háo sound of his personal name (as -ho). Converting it back into Chinese characters would get you "欧豪欧" (Ōu Háo Ōu), which is clearly wrong. As he's now known more for acting than music, I propose making Ou Hao the article title and mentioning in the opening that he's also known mononymously as OHO. Tempjrds (talk) 00:53, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Template:Wikipedia Unreferenced articles improved → Template:WikiProject Unreferenced articles improved – More appropriate & intuitive title matching the WikiProject Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced articles. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 00:31, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
July 2, 2024
- (Discuss) – Akhbari → Akhbarism – We should opt for the title with the suffix "-ism" since the article is about the school of thought and not about its adherents as a group of people. Consistent with Islam-related schools such as Shaykhism, Ash'arism, Atharism, Mu'tazilism, Maturidism and others. Also, just recently, the other Shia school Usuli was moved to Usulism. Leithiani (talk) 23:32, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Vanessa Borne → Danielle Kamela – Subject was released from WWE back in 2021 and has always used her real name outside of WWE. No reason to keep WWE owned name "Vanessa Borne" as the title. Nyeeye (talk) 23:16, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Western African Ebola virus epidemic → Western African Ebola epidemic – Disease outbreaks usually named after the disease rather than the pathogen (COVID-19 pandemic, 2003 Midwest monkeypox outbreak). I would prefer "Ebola" over "Ebola virus disease", since it is the more concise form and in line with the main article about the disease. –Tobias (talk) 18:24, 25 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 22:06, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Educide → Scholasticide – More common (on both google books and google scholar), older, and clearer. See also comment above. Onceinawhile (talk) 21:09, 25 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 22:03, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Klang Gates Quartz Ridge → Gombak Selangor Quartz Ridge – Unesco[1] and the Selangor State Government use the name Gombak Selangor Quartz Ridge. The Unesco document says "On 24 June 2015 the Klang Gates Quartz Ridge was formally named the Gombak Selangor Quartz Ridge or Permatang Kuarza Gombak Selangor (PKGS) by the Selangor State Government." Similar information appears in this paper, which also uses the name Gombak Selangor Quartz Ridge Eastmain (talk • contribs) 21:13, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tswana language → Setswana – WP:COMMONNAME. Searching setswana gives you results mainly saying setswana. Most of them that say Tswana are about Tswana people and reading the sources later state that the language they speak is called Setswana. 48JCL 20:33, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Black Widow (Yelena Belova) → Yelena Belova – While this character has predominantly used the alias "Black Widow" since her introduction in the late 1990s, she has used other aliases beyond that. Namely, these are "Super-Adaptoid starting in 2006 and most recently "White Widow" starting in 2021. While WP:Naming conventions (comics)#By codename was sufficient for the decades this character only used "Black Widow", WP:Naming conventions (comics)#By character name seems more applicable nowadays as this character has donned other names and, while Black Widow (Natasha Romanova) is largely deemed the more common/notable Black Widow, the set index Black Widow (Marvel Comics) covers other characters with this name. The character has also been more frequently referred to by her "real" WP:COMMONNAME Yelena Belova in comics and other media, and Yelena Belova (a redirect to this article), provides a WP:NATURAL disambiguation for this subject. Trailblazer101 (talk) 19:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tales of the Jedi (TV series) → Star Wars: Tales – Since this move made nearly three months ago has been objected to, here is an RM. I personally don't agree with the need as consensus was reached on the matter. Never the less, this anthology series had its first installment released as (formally) Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi (commonly Tales of the Jedi) in October 2022, with it announced in April 2023 that it would get a second season (wording used by media outlets, though the quote from Filoni was "Tales of the Jedi was so fun the first time, I decided to do some more.") Subsequently, it was announced a year later in April 2024 that this second "season" was a new "installment", Star Wars: Tales of the Empire (commonly Tales of the Empire). This press release shows the use of both formal names as well as the key quote in my view (and the determination of the previous consensus) that Tales of the Empire was
the second installment of the "Tales" series
. Thus, an appropriate name to address this anthology series considering the formal name would be Star Wars: Tales, which provides a WP:NATURAL name. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:25, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dong Huling → Tung Hu Ling – The editors involved in the move from Tung Hu Ling to Dong Huling one year ago now agree the move should be undone. The subject of this article used the name Tung Hu Ling in his personal life, and based on reliable sources was known to the general public under that name as well, in the United States and around the world. Tung Hu Ling is a redirect page so an administrator's assistance is requested to complete this return move, and additional comments are invited. This was our discussion: ::...this [move from Tung Hu Ling to Dong Huling] has become controversial because this person lived quite a long time in the United States under the name Tung Hu Ling, and that is the name on his headstone in Honolulu as you can see in this photo. His son Tung Kai Ying moved to the USA with him; he and his descendants also spell their surname Tung. Would you support undoing the move, and if so do you have a preference as to how we initiate it? Jōkepedia (talk) 04:02, 25 June 2024 (UTC) :::Hmmm... this is quite an interesting case. I actually ran into a similar situation recently with Zhang Xueliang. The main difference is that in that case, there was a large number of recent sources that could be consulted, whereas few reliable sources seem to mention Dong. I think we should be cautious about deferring to the name someone used in the personal life, since that might not be the name they're known by to the general public. But in this case, given the lack of recent reliable sources, I don't have a strong opinion either way. SilverStar54 (talk) 04:22, 25 June 2024 (UTC) ::::Thanks for your thoughts. During his life he was known to the general public as Tung Hu Ling through articles in the reliable sources Black Belt magazine and T'ai Chi magazine from the 1960s through the early 1990s, and taught classes and workshops in Los Angeles, Hawaii, and around the world under that name. As you say, given the lack of more recent reliable sources that is all we have to go on, and as we are the only editors ever to discuss this, it seems non-controversial to revert to that name while noting the Hanyu Pinyin spelling where appropriate. Jōkepedia (talk) 05:28, 25 June 2024 (UTC) :::::I think that's fair, although you should copy this conversation to the article's talk page for others' reference. SilverStar54 (talk) 05:35, 25 June 2024 (UTC) Discussion copied as advised. I volunteer to edit the article and incoming wikilinks after the return move is completed. Jōkepedia (talk) 17:51, 25 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:54, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Addison Vermont Senate District → Vermont's Addison Senate district – Per WP:LOWERCASE and WP:TITLECON. Better conforms to the naming convention used for U.S. congressional districts. For example: * Vermont's 1st congressional district * Vermont's 2nd congressional district * Vermont's at-large congressional district ...as well as other state senate districts, such as * Iowa's 40th Senate district * Michigan's 18th Senate district * West Virginia's 6th Senate district Long term, the consensus reached here could potentially be applied to Vermont House of Representatives districts and Massachusetts General Court districts as well (Vermont and Massachusetts are the few states that use county names in their legislative districts, as opposed to strict numerical naming). Woko Sapien (talk) 14:37, 25 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:50, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Bennington Vermont Senate District → Vermont's Bennington Senate district
- Caledonia Vermont Senate District → Vermont's Caledonia Senate district
- Chittenden Vermont Senate District → Vermont's Chittenden Senate district
- Essex Vermont Senate District → Vermont's Essex Senate district
- Essex-Orleans Vermont Senate District → Vermont's Essex-Orleans Senate district
- Franklin Vermont Senate District → Vermont's Franklin Senate district
- Grand Isle Vermont Senate District → Vermont's Grand Isle Senate district
- Lamoille Vermont Senate District → Vermont's Lamoille Senate district
- Orange Vermont Senate District → Vermont's Orange Senate district
- Orleans Vermont Senate District → Vermont's Orleans Senate district
- Rutland Vermont Senate District → Vermont's Rutland Senate district
- Washington Vermont Senate District → Vermont's Washington Senate district
- Windham Vermont Senate District → Vermont's Windham Senate district
- Windsor Vermont Senate District → Vermont's Windsor Senate district
- (Discuss) – History of the Comoros → History of the Comoros Islands – To differentiate between Comoros and the Comoro Islands/archipelago, which is made up of the country of Comoros and the French overseas department of Mayotte. The history of Mayotte does appear to be within the scope of this article Kowal2701 (talk) 15:43, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Murder in a Small Town (2024 TV series) → Murder in a Small Town (TV series) – This was created at the proposed title, but was subsequently moved to the current title by another editor on the grounds that the primary topic Murder in a Small Town is also a TV series — but that was actually a television film, not a television series, so the original title of this page was not in conflict with anything. (And while it's a film that had a sequel, its sequel had a completely different title, The Lady in Question, and there's absolutely no evidence whatsoever that "Murder in a Small Town" is considered the overarching franchise title of the two films as a group, so the two films are in no sense a unified "TV series" under that title for the purposes of needing to overdisambiguate this one.) Bearcat (talk) 14:39, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ruby Ridge → Ruby Ridge standoff – Ruby Ridge is a ridge. The standoff at Ruby Ridge was an event that should have a different title, like Waco siege. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:26, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – French Liberal School → French liberal school – Per MOS:DOCTCAPS, and to be WP:CONSISTENT with Austrian school of economics, historical school of economics, and everything else of this sort. These are general "schools of thought" – doctrinaire positions or sets of positions within a subject or a field of study, not educational or other institutitions with proper names like the Harvard Business School. If any other over-capitalised examples are found, then RM those, too. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 12:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Home of Peace Cemetery (Los Angeles) → Home of Peace Memorial Park – Rename per WP:COMMONNAME. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:37, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Magik → Magik (disambiguation) – As per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Comics, the appropriate naming convention for a comics character most known by their codename (as is the case for Magik) is to have an article at said codename (examples cited include Batman and Spider-man). The only other character to carry that codename is Amanda Sefton, and that article no longer references Magik in the title (per the conclusion of the last RM). The articles at the current Magik article (which serves as a disambiguation page) are this article, a limited series about this version of the character, the aforementioned Amanda Sefton, two related music projects by Tiësto that are barely stubs, a brief article about a polish rapper, and a programming language which is not widely used. Based on this, I think it would be reasonable for this article to take up the page at Magik and the disambiguation to go back to Magik (disambiguation) (where it previously was) Darquis (talk) 10:28, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Allegations of genocide in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel → Allegations of genocide in the 7 October attacks – To match the current 7 October attacks page name. MWQs (talk) 08:34, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Doctor Who season 1 → Doctor Who season 1 (1963–1964) – I think there is a consensus for another requested move and for these move to be part of it, so I am starting another formal requested move. Cal3000000 (talk) 07:26, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Huawei Mate series → Huawei Mate – The "series" word in the title is unneeded at this time as this is the overview article of the product line in question. Also, the original product with this name is already disambiguated. Intrisit (talk) 05:40, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Samsung Galaxy S (2010 smartphone) → Samsung Galaxy S (original) – Whether it was made in 2010 or 2015, it IS the original. Just as we have the Xbox (console) and PlayStation (console) articles on the original or first versions and yet there are articles on their later/latest versions. Intrisit (talk) 05:20, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Samsung Galaxy Note series → Samsung Galaxy Note – The "series" word in the title is unneeded at this time as this is the overview article of the product line in question. Also, the original product with this name is already disambiguated. Intrisit (talk) 05:02, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Twice a Man → Twice a Man (musical group) – There's now a Twice a Man (film) article for the film after which the musical group is named. Neither seems like a clear primary topic. hinnk (talk) 04:29, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Yu Shuxin → Esther Yu – As per WP:COMMONNAME that she is mostly known as Esther Yu rather than Yu Shuxin - Jjpachano (talk) 02:21, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
July 1, 2024
- (Discuss) – Levitsky versus Marshall → Gold Coins Game – WP:COMMONNAME. 48JCL 23:36, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Aricell battery factory fire → Hwaseong battery factory fire – Fires are usually titled by their locations, not their companies. 2A00:23EE:10A0:4AC6:348:7E4:C84C:A508 (talk) 21:06, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Dagestan attack → 2024 Dagestan attacks – plural 2A00:23EE:10A0:4AC6:348:7E4:C84C:A508 (talk) 20:55, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tony Kemp (baseball) → Tony Kemp – Primary topic per pageviews.[6] A hatnote link back to the Anthony Kemp dabpage will take care of any possible confusion. 162 etc. (talk) 19:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:34, 16 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph (talk) 17:37, 24 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 20:38, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Discrimination of Henan people → Anti-Henan sentiment – Consistency with similar country-level articles such as Anti-Chinese sentiment; in any case, of is not the correct preposition — it should be Discrimination against Henan people. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:28, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – King Faisal Babes F.C. → King Faisal F.C. – Correct name. [7] 47.201.233.193 (talk) 20:09, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Water Under the Bridge → Water Under the Bridge (song) – The Adele gets the most page views, but by long-term significance not sure there's a PRIMARYTOPIC, especially since there's a fairly common expression listed on WikiLinks that is more significant IMO. Ortizesp (talk) 19:40, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Current Professional Fighters League fighters → List of current PFL fighters – In line with the roster pages of other promotions such as List of current UFC fighters, List of current Bellator MMA fighters, or List of current ONE fighters. HeinzMaster (talk) 18:56, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Xavi → Xavi Hernández – Xavi is a fairly common nickname for the name "Xavier", and there's a couple other Xavi's coming up (Xavi Simons and Xavi (singer)) that are starting to rival and sometimes surpass the Spanish footballer in popularity. And adding Hernández as last name follows WP:NATURAL. Page view stats [here]. Another option is to move the Spanish footballer over to Xavi (footballer). Ortizesp (talk) 18:26, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Death (personification) → Personifications of death – WP:NATURALDIS and about multiple different personifications in different cultures, not one specific one. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:22, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Auriga → Auriga (disambiguation) – The constellation is the primary topic. It has much more pageviews[2] than any other topic that has its own article, with only Charioteer of Delphi having a considerable number of pageviews, altought 3.3 times less than the constellation (749,272 vs 223,709 pageviews since 2015). It is also notable that the Auriga of Delphi redirect neither exists nor is linked at its "parent" page, which shows that almost no one has ever searched for Charioteer of Delphi using the name Auriga of Delphi. Therefore, Auriga (constellation) satistifes the first criterion of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC,
A topic is primary for a term with respect to usage if it is highly likely—much more likely than any other single topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term.
21 Andromedae (talk) 18:15, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Airborne Interception radar → Aircraft interception radar – The article's current title, "Airborne interception radar," is problematic for two reasons. First, the claim that "AI," an abbreviation used throughout the article, stands for "airborne interception" (in terms of radar) is unsourced, and is contradicted by a number of credible sources that state that "AI" has historically stood for "aircraft interception" (see sources below). The second problem with the original title is that it's misleading and/or confusing. There's an entirely different class of "airborne" radars NOT covered in this article: air-to-surface-vessel (ASV) radar systems, which are designed to detect ships and surfaced submarines, and which are often installed on aircraft. (ASV radars are already covered, appropriately, in a separate article.) As this change may have significant impact, I'm submitting it as a request rather than making the change directly. Thanks. Supporting sources to retitle article to "Aircraft interception radar": * From the first entry in the article's Bibliography (AP1093D: An Introduction Survey of Radar, Part II (PDF). Air Ministry. 1946.) : [opening statement, on page 6:] "Aircraft interception equipment, commonly known as AI [...]". * Henry E. Guerlac, 1987. "Radar in World War II". ISBN 0-88318-486-9. (https://archive.org/details/radarinworldwari0008guer/mode/2up?view=theater) : [from p. 1123, in the glossary:] "AI: Aircraft interception. Radar to detect and trace aircraft from another airplane." * From "A Textbook of Radar". Edited by E.G. Bowen. United Kingdom, Chapman & Hall, 1948. (https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Textbook_of_Radar/K4I8AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA530-IA4&printsec=frontcoverv) : [section title, p. 530:] "Aircraft Interception (AI)" * Norman Fine, (2019). "Blind Bombing: how microwave radar brought the Allies to D-Day". Potomac Books. ISBN 9781640122208. : [page xv:] ABBREVIATIONS AND TERMS : AI aircraft interception : [p. 70:] Influenced greatly by British needs, the initial radar projects — an airborne radar system for aircraft interception (AI) and a gun-laying radar that would track bombers overhead and automatically control the aiming of antiaircraft artillery pointed skyward — were strictly defensive at this time. : [...] : Britain also critically needed an aircraft-to-surface-vessel (ASV) radar system that could locate German U-boats from the air and destroy them before they could dive. * U.S. Radar: Operational Characteristics of Radar Classified by Tactical Application: AI—Aircraft Interception Sets. Joint Chiefs of Staff. 1 August 1943. [...]. (https://web.archive.org/web/20100410000309/http://www.history.navy.mil/library/online/radar-8.htm) : DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY -- NAVAL HISTORICAL CENTER : 805 KIDDER BREESE SE -- WASHINGTON NAVY YARD : WASHINGTON DC 20374-5060 : [Chapter heading, pp. 57-60:] AI--Aircraft Interception Sets .. Marnofaldi (talk) 17:45, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Macau → Macao – Per the preliminary discussions above, it seems there's actually a solid case on WP:COMMONNAME (+ WP:OFFICIAL) grounds for this rename. Let's see where it goes. Remsense诉 14:27, 24 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph (talk) 17:41, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of target seats in the 2024 United Kingdom general election → List of marginal seats before the 2024 United Kingdom general election – These are lists of seats with small majorities, calculated from previous results. They are not lists of any party's target seats, which are the seats a party chooses to focus its funds and energies into contesting, as shown by headlines such as "Labour increases Scottish target seats to 36", and by the lead of the 2024 list. Simply changing "target seats in the nnnn ... election" to "marginal seats in the nnnn ... election" would result in ambiguity as it would not be clear whether these were marginal seats before or after the said election, hency my suggested new title of "marginal seats before the nnnn .... election". There may be better alternatives. PamD 22:59, 23 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 17:03, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- List of target seats in the 2019 United Kingdom general election → List of marginal seats before the 2019 United Kingdom general election
- List of target seats in the 2017 United Kingdom general election → List of marginal seats before the 2017 United Kingdom general election
- List of target seats in the 2015 United Kingdom general election → List of marginal seats before the 2015 United Kingdom general election
- (Discuss) – Ibrahim al-Maqadma Mosque missile strike → Ibrahim al-Maqadma Mosque attack – It is not at all clear that what happened was the result of missiles launched by a manned aircraft. Forward quotes lieutenant colonel in the Israel army calling it "a drone attack", while The Guardian blames "Israeli shells" and "artillery fire" for the attack. An article in the Journal of Palestine Studies also calls it "shelling". The most detailed account is given in the Goldstone report as "The attack on the al-Maqadmah mosque".VR (Please ping on reply) 04:23, 19 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:58, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Table of General Standard Chinese Characters → List of Commonly Used Standard Chinese Characters – "General" is an unnatural translation for 通用, which means "commonly used" or perhaps "in general use". I wouldn't be able to understand the current translation without additional context. The English title of the related document Stroke Orders of the Commonly Used Standard Chinese Characters is official, and it would make most sense to reflect that for consistency. The Chinese word 表 is admittedly ambiguous. I'm not tied to using "list" instead of "table", but I understand the document as a numbered list, not a table; that is, I don't think the document is meant to draw meaningful correspondences between the numbers and the characters, but merely to list them out with indices. Also, List of Commonly Used Characters in Modern Chinese has been translated as "list" (and as "commonly used"), and I think we should maintain consistency by renaming one of the articles. pacificboy (talk) 04:25, 17 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:58, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Template:TSGN and SE Stations → Template:Railway stations served by Govia Thameslink Railway – While a move is required to remove the unnecessary caps in "Stations", the move will also make the naming convention of this template consistent with other TOC station templates, as indicated by the consensus reached at the RM at Template talk:Railway stations served by c2c. The suggested title stems from the fact that Thameslink, Southern, and Great Northern are all a part of Govia Thameslink. At the same time, I'd like to request the Southeastern content be split into a new template called Template:Railway stations served by Southeastern for the same reasons. Jalen Folf (Bark[s]) 23:54, 19 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:57, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Right of way (public throughway) → Right of way (transit) – Per discussion at #New name above. The proposed name is succinct; the current name risks confusion with public highway. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 22:16, 23 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:55, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Right-of-way (property access) → Right of way (railroad) – The reasons for the request are set out in #Proposal to restructure and rename this article (to "Right of way (railroad)") above. The article as it stands has a lead which is essentially a WP:CFORK of Easement#Wayleave. The article itself is predominantly about the US railroad term, which (as per discussion), meets WP:GNG and merits an article in any case. The alternative, a Request to Split, seems inappropriate. If approved, I will delete the cforked material completely and replace it with a link to the Easement article. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 22:29, 23 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:55, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hurricane Beryl (2024) → Hurricane Beryl – This hurricane is clearly more notable than Hurricane Beryl (2018) and is only going to be increasing in notability as time goes on. ✶Quxyz✶ 16:43, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Norman Hunter → Norman Hunter (disambiguation) – Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, the footballer is the primary topic with respect to usage, because it is much more likely than all the other topics combined to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term. With respect to long-term significance, either no one is the primary topic or else the footballer is the primary topic, and it makes no difference because the footballer is the primary topic as to long-term significance. None of the other topics come close in terms of fame or significance. PearlyGigs (talk) 16:02, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Riquelme (Brazilian footballer) → Riquelme (footballer, born 2002) – Several players are emerging in Brazilian football with the given name "Riquelme" (and its variations, Rikelme, Rikelmy, etc.). Some examples [8], [9], [10], [11]. Per isonomy, I understand that it is more WP:PRECISE the renaming Svartner (talk) 15:32, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lumberjack → Logger (occupation) – Logger is the term commonly used today. Georgia guy (talk) 15:06, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Names for books of Jewish and Christian scripture → Names for Jewish and Christian holy books – This is a worthwhile article, but IMHO its current title is misleading. I expected "Names for books of Jewish and Christian scripture" to list the Jewish and Christian names for books of the Bible. Instead, it lists divisions within the Bible, and the more authoritative of the other Jewish types of holy books. I believe that in both religions "scripture" is only used for the Bible. "Sifrei Kodesh" is a wider category used in Judaism, literally meaning "holy books", although this does have a wider scope than the current content of the nominated article. – Fayenatic London 14:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Chiang → Chiang (disambiguation) – Per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. Same as Mao redirecting to Mao Zedong, Chiang Kai-Shek is probably the most notable individual for this uncommon surname and word, and thus should redirect to Chiang Kai-Shek accordingly. Zinderboff(talk) 12:41, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Guppedu Manasu → Nool Veli – This version released almost two months before, the director and production company both are from Tamil Nadu, and the majority of the cast (barring three) were active mostly in Tamil. Note that the lead actor Sarath Babu, although a Telugu speaker, was very active in Tamil. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:12, 24 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 11:03, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Waitematā railway station → Britomart Station – Per the WP:CRITERIA and WP:COMMONNAME There are six results for Waitemata station on scholar: [12] Britomart has far more and when only including articles from 2023 or newer it still has more: [13] [14] [15] Waitemata railway station and variations have no results on Google Books. The only reliable source for google news is: [16] which includes Britomart as a name for the location. Britomart comes up far more often and is even as recently as March this year: [17] Britomart is clearly both used more often and more recognisable for the obvious reason of Waitemata being a term that has refers to many different areas in the Auckland region. This article was originally moved from Britomart Transport Centre without any discussion. I do not see evidence for 'Britomart Transport Centre' being used more than Britomart Station; however, it is used more than Waitemata Railway Station and any variation I could find. Traumnovelle (talk) 10:08, 24 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 11:02, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Frisco Station → ? – Opening as a procedural matter as article has been moved many times, so we should figure out a stable article title. More details: I granted OrdinaryScarlett's technical move request (permalink) to revert undiscussed moves from the last longstanding title. Usually I would have declined as the last move was in 2023, but this was to correct a misspelling in the article title. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 11:22, 8 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:37, 16 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 10:16, 24 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 11:01, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Egg Islands → Egg Islands, Huon River – The search request 'Egg Islands' should lead to the Egg Island page as 'Egg Islands' may refer to multiple groups of islands. Vandervalp (talk) 10:50, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Justine (de Sade novel) → Justine (Sade novel) – In the French naming custom, the prefix "de" is not considered part of last name and is not capitalized. It is not used when the first name or the title is not used, i.e., it is correct to say "Guy de Maupassant" or "Monsieur de Maupassant," but it is incorrect to say "De Maupassant" by itself. This is not a controversial take, it's linguistic fact found in all articles regarding the topic of French naming conventions. Now, the second question to be settled is whether or not "Sade" is the common English usage as well, like Maupassant is. There are cases like De Gaulle where the incorrect rendering is so prevalent in the English-speaking world that it'd be incorrect to redirect a page to refer to him as "Gaulle." However, it can be argued that this is not the case with Sade. While "De Sade" is also common and may even be found in some (generally older) credible sources (the most important of which is Britannica), almost all prominent works regarding him today refer to the correct last name, Sade. This is also a non-controversial take in my opinion, as it is evident in the writer's own article and the works it mentions or lists as sources (such as the famous "Must we burn Sade?" by Simone de Beauvoir or "Sade, Fourier, Loyola" by the famous Roland Barthes. Even further research (outside the body of Wikipedia itself) would show that most prominent, modern, credible works in English refer to him by the universally correct variant and that it's not obscure by any means. Painfully, it seems that this article was originally titled correctly and it was moved to the current title in 2016, whose "support" which I'm reading now in the talk page includes some very questionable statements (such as "...it is quite rare in sources in that form and is mostly only found in obsolete ones...") and even some blatantly incorrect and clearly refutable ones (such as "...the name used as a human name is de Sade"). Without any intention of speaking ad hominem, it seems highly likely that the people in charge of the 2016 move were neither familiar with French nor with works referring to Sade. P. T. Tabayi (talk) 07:35, 14 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:33, 21 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (Goodbye!) 08:06, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – South Polar region of the Cretaceous → East Gondwana – the continent seems more fitting than "South Polar region of the Cretaceous" Eugenia ioessa (talk) 08:05, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Second Northern War → First Northern War – Most historiographies, including English in Encyclopædia Britannica, say that this is the First Northern War, not the Second. The only historiography that doesn't say that this is the First Northern War is the Polish-Lithuanian one, and according to an old thread in the talk page, English historiography must take precedence over other historiographies. So, this is why this should be the First Northern War. PortugueseWikiMan (talk) 12:50, 23 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph (talk) 08:00, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cheeseburger in Paradise (song) → Cheeseburger in Paradise – move is controversial; pageviews were used to justify it, but the pageviews were almost the same and are only one part of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC anyway; the restaurant is defunct and the song is not; with only 2 pages, a DAB page is not needed. — AjaxSmack 18:46, 30 June 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 162 etc. (talk) 04:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Cheeseburger in Paradise → Cheeseburger in Paradise (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Trammel of Archimedes → Ellipsograph – The "elliptic trammel" or "elliptic compass", sometimes since ~1940 misattributed as the "trammel of Archimedes" even though it has nothing to do with Archimedes, is one type of tool for drawing ellipses or "ellipsograph". The more generic term "ellipsograph" currently redirects to this article, and ellipsographs in general are described in a section near the end. In my opinion this article would be improved by re-organizing it to make the general topic of drawing ellipses be its root scope, with the elliptic trammel as a top-level section, as a sibling to other instruments/methods for drawing ellipses. An alternative would be to split this into two pages, one called "elliptic trammel" and the other called "ellipsograph", but in my opinion the scope would be substantially overlapping and we don't have enough to say to make a single unified article swell beyond reasonable size constraints for Wikipedia articles. Readers interested in the elliptic trammel per se would benefit from reading the basic context belonging at an article about ellipsographs in general. –jacobolus (t) 04:26, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Whitney Houston Live: Her Greatest Performances → Live: Her Greatest Performances – Almost every source, even Billboard recognize the album as Live: Her Greatest Performances, and so does streaming platforms and charts. dxneo (talk) 23:58, 23 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 00:49, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Promotion of anorexia → Pro-ana subculture – The umbrella term of 'pro-ana' in online spaces includes both the traditional 'encouraging anorexia as a lifestyle choice' definition as well as people who are not ready for recovery from their eating disorders, but desire a safe space to talk about them, such as venting about current struggles or sharing harm reduction tips to maintain as semi-normal a life as possible while struggling with their mental illness. Personal discomfort with the terminology shouldn't take precidence over the historical usage (documented as early as 2007). Ju1c3machine (talk) 07:42, 23 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Queen of Hearts talk 00:45, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sthanakvasi → Sthānakavāsī – This article was living over 10 years under this proposed more appropriate and consistent name, per this change. However, earlier this year this change was reverted in this change. The rationale is unclear, as I was unable to find any documentation on this change. Requesting a discussion and a potential renaming per International Alphabet of Sanskrit Transliteration used in other articles on Jainism. I have changed the label of the Wikidata item accordingly. Solarius (talk) 18:35, 23 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Queen of Hearts talk 00:43, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
June 30, 2024
- (Discuss) – Anyone but You → Anyone But You – The film's actual title ... The official title of the film is Anyone But You, not Anyone but You. I understand there is a grammatical case to keep the article as it is, but shouldn't we use the film's official title? Mjks28 (talk) 23:01, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Southport Sockman → Southport Sockmen – Offenders were plural, so Sockmen not Sockman ... Current article title is inaccurate, as there were two perpetrators, so it should be Sockmen, not Sockman. Mjks28 (talk) 22:47, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mile Kitić → Milojko Kitić – Please, rename to have proper title (name_surname) 109.175.39.1 (talk) 21:29, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – ECHL → East Coast Hockey League – The acronym ECHL is ambiguous, as it can refer to the East Coast Hockey League or the (defunct) Eastern Collegiate Hockey League. Other ice hockey league articles use the full name of the league as the title, with acronyms used for corresponding redirect or disambiguation pages, e.g., National Hockey League, United States Hockey League, American Hockey League, etc. The Eastern Collegiate Hockey League folded in 2012, and the article is currently a stub that receives an average of 2 views per day and has not been edited since 2022. The ECHL article on the other hand averages more than 1,000 views per day. Therefore, I suggest that the ECHL acronym be used as a redirect to the East Coast Hockey League. In other words, I'm proposing a straight across swap between the current ECHL article and the current East Coast Hockey League redirect page. MOS:ACROTITLE MOS:AT WP:COMMONNAME WP:DAB Buffalkill (talk) 19:00, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Government of Wales Act → Wales Act – WP:TITLECON, the Wales Act 2014, the Wales Act 2017 have both been passed, so the name norm has changed away from "Government of Wales Act" - currently "Wales Act" redirects to the 1978 law regarding the failed referendum, but this would be referred to on this new "Wales Act" page in the same way the failed 1978 referendum is referred to in the Scotland Act. The Scotland Act lists the act for the 1978 referendum, and all subsequent laws in this area. The Northern Ireland Act page includes pages that don't strictly have the name "Northern Ireland Act", e.g. the Northern Ireland Constitution Act 1973. DotCoder (talk) 16:47, 23 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph (talk) 17:40, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Adil Shahi dynasty → Sultanate of Bijapur – These articles are about the states themselves, the Sultanates, not the dynasties. We should also standardize whether the Deccan Sultanates are titled by their dynastic or geographical name, and the geographical name makes more sense here both for what these articles are actually about for what a reader would actually search. The other two Deccan Sultanates are already titled for their geographic-based names (Ahmadnagar Sultanate and Bidar Sultanate). The first and third pages to be moved have the "Sultanate" first as that is what seems to be more common per ngram [18] [19] Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 10:21, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hazara, Pakistan → Hazara region – Article is about region and WP:COMMONNAME per: Google Ngrams, Google search result and media coverage.[20],[21],[22],[23],[24],[25] Furthermore, "Hazara, Pakistan" servers as a (disambiguation) link to "Hazara region, Hazara Division, Hazara District, Hazara University". Ainty Painty (talk) 05:06, 28 June 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 08:49, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Hajj disaster → 2024 Hajj extreme heat disaster – The current title does not mention extreme heat, which seems to be a principal cause of the disaster (1, 2, 3) (though unregistered pilgrims seem to be a contributing factor (4)). I propose the new title should be 2024 Hajj extreme heat disaster, 2024 Hajj extreme heat, 2024 Hajj heat wave disaster, or 2024 Hajj heat wave. BurqueMesa (talk) 22:16, 21 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 08:48, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Press Your Luck scandal → Press Your Luck episode, May 19, 1984 – It has been debated whether the title should include the word "scandal". Jax 0677 (talk) 23:15, 21 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 08:46, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Suhas Pagolu → Suhas (Telugu actor) – The current name is a product from a single database source. No other source uses this name. Meanwhile this new name proves to be more worthwhile [26] vs. [27] DareshMohan (talk) 22:57, 14 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 03:34, 22 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 08:43, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sadh Vaishnavism → Sat Vaishnavism – Spelling correction. The word "Sadh" has no meaning, it's "Sat" meaning "True" in Sanskrit. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 07:04, 11 June 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 12:13, 14 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 04:51, 22 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 08:42, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mont Brulé → ? – Unlikely that the extra diacritic is sufficient for WP:SMALLDETAILS here. I'm however unsure about a disambiguation tag, since these are both in the Pennine Alps. 162 etc. (talk) 16:09, 14 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:50, 22 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 08:41, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Mont Brûlé → ?
- (Discuss) – Anti-Europeanism → Anti-European sentiment – Although this goes against WP:Common use, Anti-European sentiment is still commonly used in academia. This change would be in line with almost all other articles on xenophobia, such as Anti-Albanian sentiment, Anti-African sentiment, Anti-Afghan sentiment, Anti-Armenian sentiment, Anti-Assyrian sentiment, Anti-Azerbaijani sentiment. Anti-Europeanism is very misleading as it implies Euroscepticism which is very different to xenophobia, which is this article's topic. Alexanderkowal (talk) 21:25, 22 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 08:39, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hong Kong Film Award → Hong Kong Film Awards – The plural form is the one in both common and official usage, including in the article itself and whenever referenced elsewhere on Wikipedia, and makes the most sense given that there are multiple awards. Moreover, pretty much all other awards ceremonies are in the plural (eg, Academy Awards, Golden Horse Awards), so this would be consistent with that; indeed Wikipedia:Naming conventions (plurals) says that articles about groups of things should be plural, and this is very much a group of awards. Pinging @UnitedStatesian: you moved the article to the singular form a long time ago citing a discussion at WP:NC, and while I was not able to find a discussion post referencing this page, I don't doubt its existence, but I do think its reasoning should be revisited in light of the overwhelming usage to the contrary. In fact I tried to move this page myself but found myself unable to because the plural was previously in use so the page already exists. ChromeGames (talk · contribs) 04:15, 22 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 08:11, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of flags containing the color purple → Purple in heraldry – The List of flags by color has a section for purple; it is Wikipedia's actual list of flags with purple. This article talks about the meaning of purple in heraldry. Georgia guy (talk) 18:43, 14 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:16, 21 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 07:46, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dhruva Natchathiram: Chapter One – Yuddha Kaandam → Dhruva Natchathiram – Why on Earth did I move that to the longer title which is not as common but a barely visible caption on the posters? This is like Rebel Moon and Vendhu Thanindhathu Kaadu. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:45, 23 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:55, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mother (Veil of Maya album) → (m)other – The technically-restricted brackets can simply be substituted with parentheses to produce a more-satisfactory title. This would also eliminate the need for parenthetical disambiguation. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 03:47, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dying-and-rising deity → Dying-and-rising god – Common name. This was original name of article before it was moved to be 'gender neutral' but the motif is much more often named dying-and-rising god in scholarly literature. PikaSamus (talk) 02:31, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – What a Way to Live → What a Way to Live (album) – The album derives its name from the song, which came first, so the names should be swapped to avoid recency bias. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 23:57, 22 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 00:13, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
June 29, 2024
- (Discuss) – Anti-Black sentiment → Anti-Black racism – Sentiment against a 'race' is racism. Alexanderkowal (talk) 21:30, 22 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 21:57, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Michelle Pfeiffer (Ethel Cain song) → Michelle Pfeiffer (song) – Unneeded disambiguation ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:23, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Palestine → Palestine (disambiguation) – The State of Palestine is the most viewed article related to Palestine, with 490,325 views. For search engine optimization, the page Palestine should redirect to the State of Palestine page, and the disambiguation page should be moved to Palestine (disambiguation). Most disambiguation follow this format.Gsgdd (talk) 21:06, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bulbourethral gland → Cowper's gland – This gland is the male homologue of the Bartholin's gland. Because the latter has an attributive name as its title rather than a purely anatomical one ("greater vestibular gland"), I believe the former should as well. Zoozoor (talk) 21:04, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – American Prairie → American Prairie (nature reserve) – To most people, the "American Prairie" is the American Prairie, not this particular privately-managed piece of property. The current title is the result of an undiscussed move of 30 October 2021 with an edit summary saying "Rebranded name". I just added a hatnote to the article and created a dab page at American prairie to clarify this. I think the current article title should be a redirect to the disambiguation page. — BarrelProof (talk) 19:56, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jack Steadman → Jack Steadman (American football) – ... or Jack Steadman (sports executive) or similar. Doesn't appear to be the WP:PRIMARY TOPIC due to Jack Steadman (musician) having a similar or possibly greater profile. See also that latter page for a related move discussion. 109.255.211.6 (talk) 13:00, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wikipedia:WikiProject Country Music → Wikipedia:WikiProject Country music – Music -> music, to match all other "Foo music" WikiProjects: {{WP Alternative music}}, {{WP Christian music}}, {{WP Classical music}}, {{WP Electronic music}}, {{WP Latin music}}, {{WP Pop music}}, {{WP Punk music}}, {{WP Rock music}}, {{WP Roots music}}. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 12:36, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of Sri Lankan notable senior army officers → List of Sri Lankan generals and brigadiers – This name is the most suitable name for this article. Hamwal (talk) 11:41, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Christopher Street–Stonewall National Monument station → Christopher Street–Stonewall station – Per the press release and multiple sources like WNBC and VoA. Courtesy ping to @Epicgenius who carried out the initial move. ToadetteEdit! 09:16, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Drone warfare → aerial drone warfare – This article only covers warfare with aerial drones, UAVs and UCAVs. It does not cover that such as robot dogs with machine guns, robot UXOD catepillar crawlers with shotguns, suicide sub torpedo drones, robot boat minelayers, or attack sea drones (such as those sinking the Russian Black Sea Fleet). So the title of the article should match its scope of aerial drones, and not all drone warfare -- 64.229.90.32 (talk) 04:32, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – A Quiet Place (film series) → A Quiet Place (franchise) – Not just restricted to films, also includes a video game. Kailash29792 (talk) 02:44, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – John Jay Educational Campus (Brooklyn) → John Jay Educational Campus – Since the main title header without the parenthetical qualifier "(Brooklyn)" is currently a redlink, this nomination would appear to be an uncontroversial technical request. However, taking into account that this entry was created in September 2006 as Secondary School for Law, Journalism and Research, then moved to John Jay High School (New York City) in October 2009 and to its current header in March 2013, a talk page consensus of the name, if it still remains in this form as of June 29, 2024, would thus exist for the record. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 01:44, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – James House → James House (disambiguation) – The only other entities with the exact name "James House" are James House (Rogers, Arkansas) and James House (Pensacola, Florida), which both have less than one page view per day. The singer has over 25. Everything else on the dab page James House except for the singer's album is a partial title match with at least one word other than "James House" in the title. From this evidence, it's abundantly clear that the singer is by far the most common result for people looking for the exact name "James House", and should therefore be the primary topic. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:31, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
June 28, 2024
- (Discuss) – Jack Draper → Jack Draper (disambiguation) – The tennis player is the clear primary topic with ~21k monthly pageviews vs 140 for the cinematographer with the same name. [28]. The dab page probably won't be needed per WP:ONEOTHER. Iffy★Chat -- 16:30, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Parliament of Kenya assault → Storming of Parliament of Kenya (2024) – Most sources says "The parliament of Kenya was stormed". It's imperative to align with what the sources mentioned. The parliament was neither attacked nor assaulted per their English standard meanings. As Wikipedians, we don't exaggerate sources. We keep it real! Every other titles shall remain redirects. Wår (talk) 15:32, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mr Jukes → Jack Steadman (musician) – Clearly fails WP:CN. He's primarily notable in the context of Bombay Bicycle Club where he does not use this "stage name", and it's rarely used in reference to him. More accurately it's simply the name of his "solo project". I strongly suspect this is at this page largely because of Jack Steadman bogarting that pagename. Unless the latter is very clearly the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC that should perhaps also be revisited, but that's a separate order of business. 109.255.211.6 (talk) 11:52, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Pune car crash → 2024 Pune Porsche car crash – The word "Porsche" is a big identifier of this case - the brand of the car crashed is a big assosciation and that is how the case is often talked about in the media. People know it as the "Pune Porsche" case rather than the "2024 Pune car crash". Hence, for this article and this case, I believe the word Porsche should be added. The article thumbnail contains all references, more can be researched. To help my case, the article's thumbnail image is already the Porsche car model. Pharaoh496 (talk) 20:12, 12 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:22, 20 June 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. >>> Extorc.talk 07:00, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Man's World (periodical) → Man's World (2021 magazine) – Per my comment above, the current disambiguation is incomplete. * Pppery * it has begun... 05:57, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Edwina Mountbatten, Countess Mountbatten of Burma → Lady Mountbatten – Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:CONSISTENT. The Ngram shows "Lady Mountbatten" to be way more common than "Edwina Mountbatten". Google also points to the subject of this page as the primary result for the term "Lady Mountbatten". The move would also make the page consistent with the one on her husband, Lord Mountbatten, which was moved following this RM. This form of naming also has precedent (Lord Byron and Lady Byron, etc.). Keivan.fTalk 04:54, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kaadu (1952 film) → The Jungle (1952 film) – The film was dubbed in Tamil as Kaadu as proven by this source [29].
The Jungle (William Berke, 1952), starring Rod Cameron, Marie Windsor and Caesar Romero, later dubbed into Tamil as Kaadu.
DareshMohan (talk) 02:27, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
June 27, 2024
- (Discuss) – Ivory Coast → Côte d'Ivoire – It has overtaken Ivory Coast per ngrams ([30]) and should be used per WP:Common name. This is also the official name of the country, and the government has requested it is used over Ivory Coast [31], although that is of little value per WP:Official name.Alexanderkowal (talk) 22:59, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Modern era → Modern period – Although both the modern era and modern period are both common to describe this period. I feel that to be consistent with the Early modern period that this title would be reasonable. Interstellarity (talk) 20:12, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – David III of Tao → David III – Per consistency; NCROY; SOVEREIGN; PRIMARYRED. An emperor ✖ 20:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – United Front (India) → United Front (India, 1996) – Dab from others at United Front (disambiguation)#India. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:45, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Geodesic manifold → Complete manifold – "Geodesic manifold" is an extremely unusual term, and this page doesn't even use it because it is so unusual. The correct term would be either "Complete manifold" or "Geodesically complete manifold". Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:09, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Michael Stevens → Michael Stevens (disambiguation) – Probably the primary topic. Pageviews analysis shows that the article is significantly more popular than the others listed in the disambiguation (and the second-most common includes a middle name). — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 17:16, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – LGBT in the United States (disambiguation) → LGBT in the United States – Based on this ongoing discussion. --MikutoH talk! 23:58, 19 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:42, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Foam (culinary) → ? – Desperately needed standardization across Category:Culinary terminology, no reason to have four or five ways of disambiguating the exact same parent topic, mostly seems like a result of people creating different articles all at different times without any of the coordination usually needed to come up with the right disambiguators.
I didn't want to add the newname parameters to the temp due to the scale of the proposal, however to start the conversation I'll say "culinary" would be the obvious worst option as its an adjective rather than an actual topic-noun; "Cuisine" feels the best to me as its both the most encyclopedic and can cover a few edge cases where a topic relates to food without "using heat to make food more palatable, digestible, nutritious, or safe", though I'd also find "cooking" largely unobjectionable per COMMONNAME.
Browning (partial cooking), Curing (food preservation), and Proofing (baking technique) can all theoretically stay as their disambiguators are that much more specific, but I would argue they aren't actually necessary, they are only disambiguating from non-culinary topics and not from other techniques in the same category. I also wasn't sure what to do with Toast (food) as it can refer to both the technique and the resulting food item, a printworthy redirect from toasting (cuisine) may be the best option instead. Orchastrattor (talk) 16:39, 27 June 2024 (UTC)- Basting (cooking) → ?
- Blackening (cooking) → ?
- Browning (partial cooking) → ?
- Creaming (food) → ?
- Curing (food preservation) → ?
- Deglazing (cooking) → ?
- Garnish (food) → ?
- Glaze (cooking technique) → ?
- Maceration (food) → ?
- Matignon (cuisine) → ?
- Pellicle (cooking) → ?
- Poaching (cooking) → ?
- Proofing (baking technique) → ?
- Recovery time (culinary) → ?
- Reduction (cooking) → ?
- Shocking (cooking) → ?
- Smoking (cooking) → ?
- Smothering (food) → ?
- Supreme (cookery) → ?
- Sweating (cooking) → ?
- (Discuss) – Bono state → Bonoman – Native name is Bonoman, Bono state is the english translation, they fluctuate between commonality per ngrams [32] Alexanderkowal (talk) 12:01, 27 June 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Alexanderkowal (talk) 16:10, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dahal cabinet, 2008 → First Dahal cabinet – WP:CONSISTENT with other cabinets. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 08:58, 27 June 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 16:08, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wipeout (elections) → Electoral wipeout – per WP:NATURAL HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 16:04, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Shoop → Shoop (disambiguation) – 30+ years on, the long-term notability of this hit song is clearly established. Also this is the only article listed at the disambiguation page that sees any kind of traffic.[33] 162 etc. (talk) 18:08, 18 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 14:55, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 1993 Libyan coup d'état attempt → 1993 Libyan coup attempt – As per WP:TITLECON, we should be "consistent with the pattern of similar articles' titles". The pattern of most articles is "coup attempt" rather than "coup d'état attempt" (coup is a synonym of coup d'état, for what it's worth). See precedent here. RodRabelo7 (talk) 11:19, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 1987 Sharjawi coup d'état attempt → 1987 Sharjawi coup attempt – As per WP:TITLECON, we should be "consistent with the pattern of similar articles' titles". The pattern of most articles is "coup attempt" rather than "coup d'état attempt" (coup is a synonym of coup d'état, for what it's worth). See precedent here. RodRabelo7 (talk) 11:18, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tradition of removing shoes in the home and houses of worship → Removing shoes before entering homes or religious places – Old title is verbose. Open to other suggestions 211.43.120.242 (talk) 10:52, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hwangap → Sixtieth birthday in East Asia – Welcome suggestions; I'm not sure what best title for this is. The concept is relevant to the Sinosphere (afaik particularly China, Japan, and Korea; does it exist in Vietnam?), so I just proposed a generic English-language title. See Talk:East Asian coal briquettes#Requested move 8 September 2023 for a similar discussion along this vein. I don't know much about the ceremony's varieties across Asia. Not sure how WP:COMMONNAME factors into this. Here's an ngram; the Chinese term is complicated by the fact that it overlaps with other terms, for example sexagenary cycle. If we can't conclusively determine common name, think the Eng title I'm proposing steps on the fewest nationalist toes (see the talk post above this move req). 211.43.120.242 (talk) 10:34, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – WBD → WBD (disambiguation) – I'm sure that there's a Wikipedia article that should be a primary topic for the acronym WBD. According to Google search, the first 10 searched websites are referring WBD to the one of major entertainment companies. The acronym "WBD" was unknown for most people until Warner Bros. Discovery was founded two years ago. Giving the situation, we should make "WBD" as a primary redirect for Warner Bros. Discovery and adding "(disambiguation)" suffix for this article when it was moved. We could adding "WBD redirects here" hatnote at Warner Bros. Discovery article. 2404:8000:1037:456:C5F:5678:22FF:9537 (talk) 10:13, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mayday (Taiwanese band) → Mayday (band) – WP:QUALIFIER and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The article on the Taiwanese band has significantly more pageviews than the American one. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 10:03, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Martian soil → Martian regolith – "Martian regolith" is a more accurate term for this particular portion of the Martian surface and is essentially exclusively the one used in the scientific community and literature. The current title also creates some ambiguity with the regolith article not neatly pointing to the same concept by name. I've requested the same sort of move at Lunar soil. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 08:04, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lunar soil → Lunar regolith – "Lunar regolith" is a much more accurate common term to refer to this specific Lunar surface material, and is generally a more favoured search term than "lunar soil" per google trends. The current title also unintentionally obscures this from pages like regolith, which discuss the concept more broadly that's being applied here. As others pointed out in the last move that was made, it's the more accurate term to use for this topic. I'm also requesting the same move for Martian soil. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 08:02, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Caesarea, Israel → Caesarea (resort) – To disambiguate from the more famous Caesarea Maritima, also in Israel and often described mononymously. Alternatively: Caesarea (modern town) or Caesarea (resort town). Credit to Necrothesp who originally proposed this at Talk:Caesarea#Requested move 19 February 2023. Onceinawhile (talk) 07:20, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jajangmyeon Museum → Gonghwachun – This museum is in the former facility for a historic Chinese restaurant called Gonghwachun that ran from c. 1905–1983. I think the museum is less notable than the restaurant it used to house. There's actually three related concepts at play here: 1. The restaurant 2. The museum 3. The modern restaurant chain founded in 2004 that claims to succeed Gonghwachun (this claim is disputed, per [34]). I think, for now, they should all be discussed on a single page unless there's sufficient grounds for a WP:SIZESPLIT in future. But I think a size split is unlikely for a long time. If this move passes, I'll handle the rescoping of the page. Plan to significantly rewrite it. 211.43.120.242 (talk) 05:58, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sonic Team → Sega CS2 – While the Sonic Team name might now be related to Sonic, I am planning to move this to the name for the actual CS2 division since there are games mentioned on this list (also mentions the UGA games) that are not Sonic that are developed by the CS2 division (Samba de Amigo sequels, post-2013 Puyo Puyo games, later Sakura Wars games etc…) that only show the Sega name and no Sonic Team logo. This is highly complicated since Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio is CS1 and this team is CS2. VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 02:59, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kai (musician) → Kai (guitarist) – Ambiguous with Kai (musician, born 1981) and others at Kai#Music. Seems to be most notable as a guitarist, which the others are not. 162 etc. (talk) 01:44, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
June 26, 2024
- (Discuss) – 2024 Oregon Senate election → 2024 Oregon State Senate elections – change article name to 2024 Oregon State Senate elections because it should clarify it is not us Senate and there are multiple districts so it should be in plural form similar to 2024 United States House of Representatives elections 23:35, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Once Upon a Time → Once upon a Time – MOS:5 upon is a four-letter preposition Eugenia ioessa (talk) 22:54, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Meet the New Boss → Meet the New Boss (Supernatural) – Per Pageviews this is obviously not the primary target. The primary should be disambiguation page for the 3 episodes. Gonnym (talk) 21:17, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Climatic Research Unit email controversy → Climatic Research Unit email leak – 'leak' is more WP:NPOV about what actually happened: the mail leaked. The controversy part is what some hacker wanted to create by leaking them, but in the end there wasn't really any controversial content and the scientists were just doing their job fine. PhotographyEdits (talk) 19:18, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sasha Waters Freyer → Sasha Waters – I have been using the name "Sasha Waters" professionally since 2022, but I am unable to MOVE this page. I understand that in the past administrators concluded I was trying to "build an encyclopedia" of some sort, however, I still disagree with that assertion. From my perspective, I was modeling my page on other feminist filmmakers of my cohort and age (and older, who I admire) such as Lynne Sachs, Irene Lusztig, Su Friedrich and more. That said, it really is a problem for me personally to have the page name not reflect my actual professional name, Sasha Waters, which I'm sure you can understand. I was able to make this change on IMDB, for example, in about a minute. Below are links to recent pubic screenings at which I am credited as "Sasha Waters." Cosmic Rays Film Festival Microscope Gallery screening event Oklahoma Museum of Art Athens International Film + Video Festival Antimatter Media Art Moviate Underground Film Festival . hockeymom (talk) 18:30, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Analysis of Western European colonialism and colonization → Analysis of European colonialism and colonization – With one exception, all European countries that engaged in colonialism were Western European. Super Ψ Dro 14:12, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Vladimir Putin and Maria Lvova-Belova → International Criminal Court arrest warrant for Vladimir Putin – It made sense to include these two together when they were the only people in Russia wanted by ICC for their crimes in Ukraine. However later new warrants appeared for Sergey Kobylash and Viktor Sokolov, and then for Sergei Shoigu and Valery Gerasimov. This article does not cover all Russians wanted for war crimes anymore and I see no more reason to group Putin and Lvova-Belova together. It is clear Putin's warrant is the primary topic. For a reason is "Putin" mentioned 73 times in the article while "Lvova-Belova" is mentioned 10. Super Ψ Dro 13:54, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Come On Down (disambiguation) → Come on Down – No article with this name. -- Jax 0677 (talk) 21:29, 18 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 11:54, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Panzerotti → Panzerotto – "panzerotto" is correct; see: https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/panzerotto; https://www.dictionary.com/browse/panzerotto; https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/panzerotto (Wiktionary); https://www.wordsense.eu/panzerotto/; https://www.definitions.net/definition/panzerotto; etc. The term "panzerotti" (as opposed to "salami" and "panini") doesn't exist in English dictionaries. JacktheBrown (talk) 11:53, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Casa de Apostas Arena Fonte Nova → Arena Fonte Nova – Per WP:COMMONAME and WP:NOTADVERT. Sponsored name unusual and recently modified (formerly Itapaiva beer brand) Svartner (talk) 09:39, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gokujo Parodius → Gokujō Parodius – Proper romanization used throughout the article. Beqwk (talk) 08:51, 26 June 2024 (UTC) -- Beqwk (talk) 08:51, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Very Nice → Very Nice (disambiguation) – Maybe an eager move, but there is only one article within the current mainspace. There are no mentions to "Very Nice" in Borat's article, the only Dermansky novel with an article is a stub, and only one album under the record label has an article, plus the label would likely be "Very Nice Records" if it had an article. Not to say these other things wont eventually be notable, but in the meantime I would say the song is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Orangesclub (talk) 06:27, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Battle of Geneina → Geneina massacre – Referring to the page as the Battle of Geneina made sense when it was first created, but the June massacres and new details and reports revealing the amount of the destruction and killings shows that this was moreso a coordinated campaign of massacres and attacks by the RSF and allied militias against the Masalit people in Geneina, with just about every source highlighting the genocidal massacres and atrocities over the clashes. Jebiguess (talk) 03:00, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lucy Faithfull, Baroness Faithfull → Lucy Faithfull – We do not need "Baroness Faithfull" per WP:NCPEER, as a personal name. 49.150.0.134 (talk) 02:13, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio → Sega CS1 – With the release of Super Monkey Ball Banana Rumble, Sega has stopped using the RGG Studio name in the SMB titles, solely keeping them for Like a Dragon/Yakuza. VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 01:52, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Elapsed listings
- (Discuss) – List of films shot in Lone Pine → List of films shot in Lone Pine, California – Lone Pine, California is obscure; the location should be specified more clearly in the article title. Walsh90210 (talk) 00:20, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – President of the Republic of China → President of Taiwan – WP:COMMONNAME and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC as with the recent move of the President of the People's Republic of China to the President of China. However, now with the ROC largely lost legitimacy to claim as the legitimate government of the Chinese state, let's move some of the pre-1949 historical context of these articles to the (office post) of China and let these articles focus on the history of the heads of state and government on Taiwan during Qing, Japanese colonial rule and the ROC since 1945. Silence of Lambs (talk) 22:50, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tsar Mangal → Turtle Tank – On behalf of DojoIrl, see below - Altenmann >talk 22:23, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – ABC News → ABC News (United States) – Australia's ABC News is its national broadcaster and is its most widely watched newscast. The Australian broadcaster reaches 8 digit levels of people on a weekly basis, while the U.S. company averages around 7 million on nightly newscasts. And, in absolute terms, Australia's ABC is quite a major news organization. I don't think the U.S. subsidiary of Disney is more of a WP:PTOPIC here, so I propose moving this to the proposed target and moving ABC News (disambiguation) to take over this page's title. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 20:57, 18 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. JuniperChill (talk) 20:32, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Blowing in from Chicago → Blowing In from Chicago – proper capitalization of a phrasal verb Eugenia ioessa (talk) 19:09, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Surface Laptop 7th Edition → Surface Laptop (7th generation) – Follows page naming convention of previous generations. Despite Microsoft's own URL including "7th edition", it is not marketed as such (just as "Surface Laptop") Hexware (talk) 17:59, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Surface Pro 11th Edition → Surface Pro (11th generation) – Follows page naming convention of previous generations. Despite Microsoft's own URL including "11th edition", it is not marketed as such (just as "Surface Pro") Hexware (talk) 17:57, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Listed Miss Grand International 2023's national representative selection → List of Miss Grand International 2023 preliminary contests – The name should be comprehensible English. Perhaps "List of Miss Grand International 2023 preliminary contests", let's discuss. A number of other "Listed..." articles have the same problem (2017, 2018, 2022). ☆ Bri (talk) 17:46, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jutish → Jutlandic – I'm requesting a move to the new article, along with its associated talk page, because while the terms "Jutish" and "Jutlandic" can be synonyms and refer to either anything related to the ancient Germanic tribe called the 'Jutes', anything related to the Jutland peninsula in Denmark, or the 'Jutlandic dialect' spoken in Denmark, the terms "Jute", "Jutish" and "Jutic" normally refer to anything related to the ancient Germanic tribe called the 'Jutes' (according to the entries on Wiktionary, Jute, Jutish and Jutic), while the terms "Jutlandic" and "Jutlandish" normally refer to anything related to the Jutland peninsula in Denmark, or the 'Jutlandic dialect' spoken in Denmark (according to the entries on Wiktionary, Jutlandic and Jutlandish), while the term "Jutlander" normally refers to anyone from the Jutland peninsula in Denmark (according to the entry on Wiktionary). But this definitely warrants further discussion. It seems we have five options here: # Retain the status quo, with the disambiguation page as the primary topic, # Move Jutlandic dialect to Jutlandic and retarget Jutish to Jutes, # Retarget Jutlandic to Jutish, # Move Jutish to Jutlandic and then do either of the following: :: a. retarget Jutish to Jutlandic, :: b. retarget Jutish to Jutes My personal preference is (4b), to move Jutish to Jutlandic and then retarget Jutish to Jutes, so I've styled the RM that way. But editors are also free to suggest whichever option they want in this RM. PK2 (talk) 03:58, 18 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 12:51, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – De La Salle Green Spikers volleyball → De La Salle Green Archers volleyball – The above existing pages have titles that do emulate the placement of a disambiguating sports descriptor after the team name, per WP:QUALIFIER. This style of adding descriptors has been prescribed by example by, among other similar college-sports WikiProjects, this page under WP:CBBALL and this page under WP:CFB for titles of pages about United States college teams. Clearly, these descriptors were prescribed in order to naturally disambiguate (by WP:NATURAL) a page about a team playing a certain sport from pages about namesake teams that are playing in other sports. In each of the team pages above being requested for moving, however, 1) the team name used is not that of its institution's team's uniform or collective name but the special nickname or unique moniker given to that specific team playing in its sport, so much so that the need for disambiguation disappears. 2) what is produced by the addition of a disambiguating sport descriptor after the team's special nickname is a redundancy. For example, there are no other De La Salle Green Spikers other than the De La Salle Green Archers team playing men's volleyball. For having a redundant title, the page's title then creates WP:OVERPRECISION and breaches the WP:CONCISE rule. That, however, can be salvaged by replacing the special moniker with the institution's team's uniform or collective name, a replacement which is what would have the need for disambiguation and erase the redundancy. Bagoto (talk) 09:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- De La Salle Lady Spikers volleyball → De La Salle Lady Archers volleyball
- De La Salle Lady Booters football → De La Salle Lady Archers football
- UST Golden Spikers volleyball → UST Growling Tigers volleyball
- UST Golden Tigresses volleyball → UST Tigresses volleyball
- UST Lady Booters football → UST Tigresses football
- (Discuss) – Gaza Strip famine → Starvation of Palestinians during the Israel-Hamas war – No source is saying this is a famine. They say near-famine, starvation, or famine-like conditions. Contrary to some claims, there is not one source in this article that declares a famine. The FRC said there wasn't enough evidence to declare a famine, and other sources agreed. But pretty much all reliable sources say there is starvation. In every report, most of the population is in some form of starvation, and sources have gladly accepted this term. Additionally, starvation has been confirmed by pretty much all humanitarian orgs, the UN, ICC, and ICJ. Also, there is no common name. I want to see evidence there's a widely used name. The name doesn't have to be this, but it should revolve around starvation in Gaza. Personisinsterest (talk) 01:23, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Backlog
- (Discuss) – Kriss (surname) → Kriss – Delete disambiguation page and move to main title. The only other entry at the dabpage is KRISS, which is DIFFCAPS and can be adequately addressed in the "See also" section, no separate article required. 162 etc. (talk) 02:11, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Kriss → Kriss (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Mokai Tramway → Taupo Totara Timber Company Railway – The proposed title makes this article easier to find. Many readers will have heard of the "TTT", the tourist town of Taupo, or Lake Taupo. Few people will be familiar with the sawmilling village of Mokai, which today has only a few houses and a marae. The name also distinguishes the main Putaruru to Mokai line from the bush tramways radiating from Mokai. Many of these tramways were accessible only to selected TTT Railway rolling stock. In contrast, all TTT locomotives including the Mallet and the four-wheeled locos were able to run through to Mokai, where the company had its main mechanical workshop. The proposed new title also distinguishes the TTT Railway from the Kinleith Branch, which covered only part of the route and was built on formation that was largely new. (The original TTT formation north of Tokoroa is still visible in some places). I have a large collection of source material on the railway and the company and I hope to add more info and true primary citations as time permits. I will also propose that a separate page be set up covering the TTT company itself Kbwc56 (talk) 00:09, 26 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 00:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 10:59, 10 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 21:21, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Rallying → Rally (motorsport) – "Rallying" remains vague, as it can apply in literally every other type of sport "rally" is a term as well as the stock market. It is not an adequate disambiguation. Britannica calls it "rally" [35] so that's what I went with here. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:13, 12 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 21:12, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Polish–Russian War (1605–1618) → Russo-Polish War (1609–1618) – Sources tend to put the start date of the war to 1609 [36][37], when there was a declaration of war, excluding invasions in the preceding years. This is also consistent with and , as well as consistent with Russo-Polish War (1654–1667). Mellk (talk) 19:12, 12 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 21:07, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Slatina protests → Death of Flavius Magraon – This looks more notable, in any case. The article should be centered on the main event and not on the protests that were a consequence of it. The death of a person is also more relevant than seemingly small and unconsequential (beyond the local level) protests. This title format, consistent with other articles, also puts the scope onto the person who was a professional footballer which is something that can be written more about in the article. Super Ψ Dro 23:51, 12 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 21:06, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Chinilpa → Korean collaborators with Imperial Japan – See my talk post above this; this article is currently titled using a term considered derogitory, and isn't exclusively a discussion about the word itself per WP:WORDISSUBJECT. It actually significantly talks about the people alleged to be collaborators. That'd be like talking about a people group under an article titled with a slur for them; that's clearly not neutral, it feels like it's validating the slur. Note: I'm not expressing sympathy for nor opposition to collaborators here, I am purely trying to apply WP:NDESC. My proposed new title matches Category:Korean collaborators with Imperial Japan; I just chose to use it for consistency and because it's an adequate title, open to suggestions for other titles. Side note, but the term itself is possibly independently notable and could eventually get its own article, but current article lengths suggest to me that it should all be in one. 104.232.119.107 (talk) 20:14, 13 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:55, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Class 360 → Class 360 (disambiguation) – I feel as though that the Class 360 in the UK is the most popular and primary topic hence the rename. One other editor wanted to bring back the class 360 as a disambig page. I think it should go thru a proper RM to change the name again because of the disagreement between editors. JuniperChill (talk) 23:46, 14 June 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 10:44, 15 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:49, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Alcaeus → Alcaeus (disambiguation) – The Greek lyric poet Alcaeus is the clear primary topic in both likely usage (WP:PT1) and longterm significance (WP:PT2). Likely Usage: There is really no debate that the lyric poet considerably dwarfs the others in page views. He is competing with comparatively niche cultural and mythological personalities; it is telling that all of the other Nine Lyric Poets are named monogamously on Wikipedia (although Simonides of Ceos is not, the name Simonides redirects there regardless). “Alcaeus of Mytilene” is simply not the common name for the lyric poet. Longterm significance: Alcaeus the lyric poet has been canonized in ancient literature, with an oeuvre described as “highly esteemed in the ancient world” ([38]), and an entire lyrical meter named after him (the Alcaic stanza). He is the subject of repeated monographs and studies; the other Alcaeus personages receive no where near this much attention. The previous move request spurred into a tangential analysis of how Alcaeus is presented in classical scholarship. The sources consulted were Brill's New Pauly and the 200 year-old Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology; both do not list the the lyric poet first. Since this is blatant cherrypicking, I’ll have a go myself: the 2014 Oxford Classical Dictionary, more comprehensive and up-to-date than both, lists the lyric poet first. In any case, Wikipedia is not a classical encyclopedia, it is a general encyclopedia. Other general encyclopedias simply call him "Alcaeus" (see Britannica and Oxford Reference) – Aza24 (talk) 18:34, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Six Flags → Six Flags (1961–2024) – Cedar Fair will be the surviving entity come July 2nd. A merged article would be arguably too long. DisneyAviationRollerCoasterEnthusiast (talk) 14:45, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dina (disambiguation) → Dina – Dina is just a redirect to Dina (disambiguation). No incoming links Special:WhatLinksHere/Dina showing some special meanings. MrKeefeJohn (talk) 07:18, 12 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Natg 19 (talk) 16:34, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – National Democratic Party of Germany → Die Heimat (political party) – When a party changes its name, it seems more than natural to rename the page too. Current English-language sources on the party refer to it by its new original name, Die Heimat, which should therefore be the title of the page. It doesn't seem sensible to me to keep a name that has been abandoned for a year now. Scia Della Cometa (talk) 13:10, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Farhang Khosro Panah → Farhang Khosropanah – It's not really a controversial move. in his surname "panah" is a suffix, not a separate word. but one source put a space between them and the others simply copy/pasted the same mistake. two major sources write his name correctly instead, 1948 Olympics official report, page 437 and International shooting federation. Sports2021 (talk) 00:22, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Public Sector Undertakings in India → Public Sector Undertakings – Redundant natural dab as there's no other article with the same title. It is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Besides, the name is exclusively used in India alone. 2409:4073:4DC3:7C3B:5CDA:ABCB:B969:9871 (talk) 10:02, 3 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph (talk) 10:15, 10 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 06:21, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Haymarket railway station → Haymarket station (Edinburgh) – Since Edinburgh Trams served Haymarket station for ten years, why hasn't it been renamed yet? WP:UKSTATION. JuniperChill (talk) 19:15, 10 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 06:05, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Brighton hotel bombing → Brighton bomb – Per WP:COMMONNAME. Sources overwhelmingly use the name ‘the Brighton bomb’ to deal with this event. While there is some use of ‘Brighton hotel bombing’, these are much less common. Support the move, of course. - SchroCat (talk) 02:32, 11 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:58, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – CHCO-DT → CHCO-TV – No record of callsign change, even with switch to digital Mvcg66b3r (talk) 19:30, 11 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 00:53, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Judicial disqualification → Recusal – Most common term for this concept, most accurate term for this concept since the article and the idea is not limited to justices, and 4/4 editors on talk page so far agree Superb Owl (talk) 22:32, 8 June 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). --Ahecht (talk) 17:50, 11 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 00:53, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Slowpoke → Slowpoke (disambiguation) – No obvious competition for primary topic. Everything else is either a WP:PTM, different per WP:SMALLDETAILS, or has no article. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:27, 11 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 00:51, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Twitter under Elon Musk → X (social network) – See Talk:Twitter#Requested move 17 May 2024 elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:25, 24 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 09:17, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Three Musketeers (game) → Three musketeers (game) – Per WP:GAMECAPS, we don't cap game names unless they are trademarked (e.g. product names), as Dungeons & Dragons is. This one is not (I search the US trademark database, and didn't it). It's more like Texas hold 'em. Dicklyon (talk) 01:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BD2412 T 03:08, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kerma → Kerma (city) – proposal at Talk:Kerma kingdom#Requested move 9 June 2024 to move Kerma culture to Kerma with this page specifying the city/archaeological site Alexanderkowal (talk) 22:56, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mezhdunarodnaya (Moscow Metro) → Moskva-Siti (Moscow Metro) – The station was officially renamed on 31 March 2024 212.3.130.205 (talk) 15:22, 4 June 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). ASUKITE 13:57, 7 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:42, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Re:SET Concert Series → Re:Set Concert Series – Alternatively, Reset Concert Series; minus the colon, which I'm not sure how we should handle regarding stylization. I think it could be taken as having a double meaning ("set" as in a concert; see sense 18 here) which could affect how it should be presented. Regardless, the capitalization should change, but I want additional opinions on the punctuation before anything changes. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 23:29, 7 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:41, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Densha Otaku → Densha otaku – It's not a proper noun; shouldn't in title case, should be in sentence case. 104.232.119.107 (talk) 05:08, 1 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 00:37, 9 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:30, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kerma kingdom → Kingdom of Kerma – Requested move, misuse of WP:PROD on the redirect. More consistent with English grammar than the current title. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:35, 9 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:28, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Unified list of Indigenous minority peoples of the North, Siberia, and the Far East of Russia → Unified list of indigenous minority peoples of the North, Siberia, and the Far East of Russia – Here "indigenous" is a common adjective, not the proper name,merely stating the fact that these people lived there until Russian Empire grabbed their land - Altenmann >talk 00:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:11, 9 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:26, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Environmental damage caused by the Israel–Hamas war → Environmental impact of the Israel–Hamas war – As noted in #Suggested rename above, there is well-established precedent for naming these types of articles Environmental impact of .... This is a more neutral description than Environmental damage of ..., as required by WP:NDESC. @Vice regent @Amakuru @Launchballer @Bruxton @Schwede66 @Lightburst @SafariScribe all of whom were involved in previous discussons of this topic. RoySmith (talk) 16:15, 31 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 17:44, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sri Lankan state-sponsored colonization schemes → Sinhalese colonization – The current article title is too broad compared to the content, which focuses solely on contested colonization schemes in the north and east where Sinhalese were settled. There are many "Sri Lankan state-sponsored colonization schemes" throughout Sri Lanka, including in the wet-zone, and there schemes where Tamils were the majority of colonists. SinhalaLion (talk) 16:38, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sexual and gender-based violence in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel → Sexual violence in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel – Gender-based violence is defined as "any type of harm that is perpetrated against a person or group of people because of their factual or perceived sex, gender, sexual orientation and/or gender identity".[3] It is not currently clear that this article deals with any such violence other than that of a sexual nature, and even then, the lede states that male Israelis were also subjected to sexual violence (which if true suggests that it was not gender-based). A previous discussion on this topic has also shown that many people do not understand what the term "gender-based violence" actually means, so whether including it in the title is usefully descriptive is quite questionable.
References
- ^ "Gombak Selangor Quartz Ridge". Unesco World Heritage Convention. Retrieved 2024-07-02.
- ^ https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2015-08&end=2024-05&pages=SS_Auriga|Charioteer_of_Delphi|HMS_Auriga_(P419)|AURIGA|Auriga_(constellation)
- ^ "What is gender-based violence? - Gender Matters". Council of Europe.
- TRCRF22 (talk) 14:54, 4 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 15:20, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nuseirat refugee camp massacre → Killing of civilians during Nuseirat raid and rescue – The word "massacre" is listed as a non-neutral term at WP:POVNAMING and should not be used unless it's a WP:COMMONNAME, which it isn't in this case. "Killing of civilians" is perfectly neutral (see WP:KILLINGS) and covers the idea of "massacre" but in a neutral way. Two anticipated objections: *While there is currently a discussion to merge this article, I don't see any consensus there. If consensus does develop to merge/delete this article, then an admin is perfectly capable of closing this RM and redirecting this article. But until then, this article must still follow WP:NPOV. *While Israeli and Palestinian officials dispute how many civilians were killed, the fact that at least some civilians (including children) were killed during the raid is a established fact that RS state in their own voice: **"At the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital in the nearby town of Deir al-Balah, the dead and wounded arrived in waves — men, women and children." Associate Press **"Many Palestinians, including children, were killed and injured in the area where the operation took place, with images and footage showing a large numbers of casualties." BBC News **"Video in the aftermath of the raid showed charred bodies scattered across streets in Nuseirat, while Palestinians could be seen gathering the remains of those killed. Bloodied children could also be seen arriving at a local hospital". NBC News Finally, the move target should be "Killing of civilians during X", where X is the name decided for 2024 Nuseirat rescue operation article per WP:CONSISTENT. Currently there seems to be a lot of support for moving that article to "Nuseirat raid and rescue". VR (Please ping on reply) 04:56, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Srebrenica massacre → Srebrenica genocide – I suggest that we rename this article to "Srebrenica genocide" now that the UN has issued its resolution on the matter today, designating July 11 as the International Day of Reflection and Commemoration of the 1995 Genocide in Srebrenica Please also check the discussion above. Njamu (talk) 06:56, 2 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 09:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip → Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip (disambiguation) – Just like we don't have a date on Israel-Hamas war, as that is by far the most significant of the wars between Israel and Hamas, the current invasion of Gaza Strip is by far the most significant of the invasions of Gaza Strip. It is the longest in duration, most extensive in damage, the highest in casualties and received the most international attention. VR (Please ping on reply) 18:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 07:40, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Nuseirat rescue operation → Nuseirat raid and rescue – Most sources are dual referencing this as a raid, attack or assault rather than just as a rescue. Guardian "Israeli attacks in central Gaza killed scores of Palestinians, many of them civilians, on Saturday amid a special forces operation to free four hostages held there, with the death toll sparking international outrage." NYT "Israeli soldiers and special operations police rescued four hostages from Gaza on Saturday amid a heavy air and ground assault",CNN "Israel’s operation to rescue four hostages took weeks of preparation and involved hundreds of personnel, its military said. But the mission began with a trail of destruction in central Gaza and ended in carnage, according to local authorities." Selfstudier (talk) 15:06, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – September 2022 Armenia–Azerbaijan clashes → September 2022 Azerbaijani attack on Armenia – I have not seen a single reliable source saying that Armenia attacked Azerbaijan. But multiple reliable sources say the opposite. Various sources describe the events as an “invasion”, “offensive”, “attack”, or “assault.” There is consensus that Azerbaijan was the one who initiated the hostilities. Some talk about “Azerbaijan’s Invasion of Armenia”, “Azerbaijan’s Offensive on Armenia”, “Azerbaijan’s Attack on Armenia”, but they all agree on one thing: Azerbaijan was the initiator of the clash, and it was Azerbaijan who attacked. Therefore, the title “Attack of Azerbaijan on Armenia” perfectly reflects the vast majority of reliable sources and is the least ambiguous. I will provide the overwhelming evidence below: * Human Rights Watch: :“The killings took place during fighting between Armenian and Azerbaijani forces that broke out in mid-September, when Azerbaijan made incursions into Armenia...” * Genocide Watch: :“Azerbaijani military attacks on Armenian territory show Azerbaijani disregard for Armenian sovereignty.” * Freedom House: :“Freedom House Condemns Azerbaijani Attacks on Armenia” :“The Azerbaijani armed forces must immediately cease their deadly attacks on Armenian territory” * Axel Gehring, Ph.D., political scientist and expert in the field of foreign and security policy and researcher at the Institute for Critical Social Analysis of the Rosa Luxemburg Foundation in Berlin: :“On September 13, regular Azerbaijani troops launched a large-scale attack on Armenian territory. This attack took tensions between the countries to a new level.” * Laurence Broers is a specialist in conflicts in the Transcaucasus, founder of the scientific journal Caucasus Survey: :"Azerbaijan's recent attack seeks to enforce terms in negotiations with Armenia" “ The recent large-scale cross-border attacks inside Armenia by Azerbaijan...” * Maximilian Hess, Research Fellow for Central Asia at the Foreign Policy Institute, in Foreign Policy magazine: :“Azerbaijani forces who marched into Armenia continue to occupy part of its territory, in particular heights around the town of Jermuk.” * David L. Phillips, conflict analyst in The National Interest: :“The United States criticized Azerbaijan's recent attacks on Armenia proper” * European Parliament Resolution: :“Strongly condemns the latest military aggression by Azerbaijan on September 12, 2022 on the sovereign territory of Armenia” :“calls on the Azerbaijani authorities, therefore, to immediately withdraw from all parts of the territory of Armenia “ * Wojciech Gorecki, senior researcher at the Department of Turkey, Caucasus and Central Asia: :“in September 2022 Azerbaijan attacked targets located on Armenian territory.” * The Guardian: : “This week, with attention focused across the Black Sea in Ukraine, fighting on the border between Azerbaijan and Armenia killed about 100 troops after Azerbaijan shelled a number of towns in Armenia, with both sides accusing each other of “provocations”.” * Der Spiegel: : “Peace negotiations mediated by the European Union have been at an impasse since Baku also attacked territory in the Republic of Armenia in September 2022.” * TIME: : “...democratic nation that was recently invaded by its authoritarian neighbor” : “...but also Armenia, which has been suffering from Azerbaijan's invasion for almost three weeks now.” * BBC: : “I don’t think anyone doubts that Azerbaijan started this operation on the territory of Armenia. Even Azerbaijani commentators admit this. Armenia is currently weak, has little interest in disrupting the status quo.” * Eurasianet :"Azerbaijan launches large-scale attacks on Armenia" :“Azerbaijan launched a large-scale attack on targets in Armenia, an unprecedented expansion of the long-running conflict into Armenian territory.” * Michael Rubin, senior researcher at AIP: :“Last week, Azerbaijan attacked Armenia proper. (Last week Azerbaijan attacked Armenia directly)” * Paul Stronski is a senior fellow in the Carnegie Russia and Eurasia Programs, specializing in Russia and the South Caucasus: : “..the fact that Russia is preoccupied, certainly led to what looks like an Azerbaijani offensive at this time” : “And what we even saw just in the last few days is actually attacks inside and shelling inside cities inside Armenia, not just along the border." * Kapil Komireddy, political columnist for The Telegraph: : “But so little about Azerbaijan's attack, which goes beyond the disputed territory of Karabakh and targets Armenia proper.” *Seth Franzman, Middle East analyst for The Jerusalem Post , contributor to Defense News, The National Interest and Digest of Middle East Studies: :“Attacks on Armenia represent dangerous escalation” *Carnegie Europe: :“Nearly 300 soldiers died in a large-scale Azerbaijani incursion into the territory of Armenia on September 13-14.” Vanezi (talk) 21:23, 5 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:19, 29 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Cremastra (talk) 14:24, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Three-dimensional electrical capacitance tomography → Electrical capacitance volume tomography – This page was originally titled "Electrical capacitance volume tomography" and was recently moved to a page called "Three-dimensional electrical capacitance tomography". These two terms are not the same. The latter is a broader term as shown in the wikipedia article edit on 5/14/24 in the introduction section. References are given for the distinction between terms. When the page was moved to the new term, it stated that the term ECVT is not widely used. However, in the later 5/14/24 edit of the introduction, citations are given for the term being used in China, Indonesia, and three different research groups in the USA. It is suggested that this page return to "Electrical capacitance volume tomography". A separate page should be made for "Three-dimensional electrical capacitance tomography", if desired, as it is a distinct term that can include stacking of 2D tomographs whereas ECVT does not. Marashdeh (talk) 15:28, 14 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 17:05, 23 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph (talk) 18:15, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Genocide of Indigenous peoples → Genocide of indigenous peoples – "Indigenous" is only a proper name when adopted as conventional for a particular ethnic group, and when applied to the specific groups who have done so. As a general, global adjective it is not and cannot be a proper name (any more than the opposite, "colonial"), so should not be capitalized. See in particular the lead paragraph of MOS:CAPS: WP does not capitalize that which is not capitalized consistently across nearly all independent reliable sources, and "indigenous peoples" is not so capitalized (indeed, it is overwhelmingly lowercase [39][40], except in highly retrictive contexts that refer to specific populations who have adopted the term self-referentially as a name in English). This same situation is true of all such terms such as "native" and "aboriginal". "Aboriginal" is capitalized in reference to autochthonous Australians, and "Native" is capitalized in "Native Americans" in reference to the autochthonous peoples of what is now the US and sometimes (in mostly US usage) all of the Americas. But "native" is not capitalized (by the preponderance of modern reliable sources) in reference to Australians, nor "aboriginal" in reference to Americans, and neither is capitalized in "the native (aboriginal) peoples and languages of Siberia and Central Asia before the Soviet Union", etc. PS: There may be other over-capitalized articles of this sort, but perhaps take them one at a time, since some might pertain more narrowly to groups that have taken on "Indigenous" as a self-referential name/label. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 04:42, 25 May 2024 (UTC); revised 06:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tel al-Sultan massacre → Rafah tent camp attack – News sources have called it "attack", "massacre", "strike" and "airstrike". It is not yet clear which is the most WP:COMMONNAME. "Massacre" carries value judgement, and "airstrike" obscures the fact that many of the casualties weren't killed directly by the airstrike, but were burned alive in the resulting fire. "Strike" is very similar to "attack", but "attack" is consistent with other similar events like World Central Kitchen aid convoy attack. I also think "Rafah tent camp" is more recognizable than "Tel al-Sultan" and most sources seem to use "Rafah tent camp" or "Rafah displacement camp".VR (Please ping on reply) 18:14, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Allegations of genocide in the 2023 Israeli attack on Gaza → ? – I'm unsure what the new title should be, but I'm sure that this one has an issue. The Israeli attack on Gaza has gone past 2023 into 2024. So, we can't keep the "2023 Israeli attack on Gaza" part. Perhaps we could change it to "Allegations of genocide perpetrated by Israel in the Israel–Hamas war", "Allegations of genocide in Gaza in the Israel–Hamas war", or something different. Note that "2023 Israeli attack on Gaza" just redirects to Israel–Hamas war. Paul Vaurie (talk) 19:49, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Arab citizens of Israel → Palestinian and Arab citizens of Israel – Per the smart suggestion from Keizers in the discussion above, this middle ground should address the concerns of both sides. Many editors have put a lot of time into this debate over many years, so we would ask you not to vote until you have reviewed the following discussions: * Talk:Arab citizens of Israel/Archive 8#Requested move 27 October 2021 * Talk:Palestinian citizens of Israel#Requested move 26 November 2021 * Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Palestinian citizens of Israel (6 March 2024, proposed by Keizers) * Talk:Arab citizens of Israel#Requested move 21 March 2024 Onceinawhile (talk) 14:28, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
Possibly incomplete requests
- Talk:WBD – WBD is requested for move to WBD (disambiguation), which could make the disambiguation malplaced. Has a primary redirect been specified?
- Talk:Chiang – Chiang is requested for move to Chiang (disambiguation), which could make the disambiguation malplaced. Has a primary redirect been specified?
- Talk:Class 360 – Class 360 is requested for move to Class 360 (disambiguation), which could make the disambiguation malplaced. Has a primary redirect been specified?
References
See also
- Wikipedia:Requested moves/Article alerts, which includes a list of recently closed, as well as open discussions