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A better sentence for demonstrating that Bush knew and supported Noriega during the 1980s would be this from the Noriega article: Bush, now U.S. vice president, met again with Noriega in December 1983 to discuss support for the Contras. Drdpw (talk) 03:34, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Drdpw: But he was DCI in 1976, not during the 1980s. Could you explain more specifically what you dislike about the text I added, so I can revise it to address your concerns? --Cerebellum (talk) 14:09, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The Biden infobox RfC and its closing comment (which mentions "other politicians") seem to me to be applicable to this case. I do not see anything there that suggests that the consensus favors excluding senate-specific assignments because they are senate-specific. Rather, the closing comment refers to "the names of successors and predecessors, and dates of service, especially in the minor offices" and notes that Biden "has an unusually long political career and large number of chairperson stints" and that "some other politicians also have long infoboxes which could benefit from shortening".
The infobox in this article is likewise bloated with the names of successors and predecessors and dates of service in offices that are minor compared to presidency and vice-presidency. John Dowdy, Bill Archer, Charles Yost, John A. Scali, Mary Smith, David K. E. Bruce, Thomas S. Gates Jr., Vernon A. Walters, E. Henry Knoche, William Colby, and Stansfield Turner are all names that do not appear anywhere in the text. Not even once. The associated dates do not either. The argument that prevailed in the Biden infobox RfC is that the inclusion of such information contravenes MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE, since infoboxes are supposed to "summarize key facts that appear in the article". These names are not key facts; they do not appear in the article. Such information is meant for the succession boxes at the bottom. Do we really need a new RfC for the same purpose just a year later? Surtsicna (talk) 13:25, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
See the preceding comment. In short, it's because Bush is far better known as vice president and president, and a discussion at the Biden infobox RfC resulted in the consensus that offices that are minor in comparison to the presidency need not be included in the infobox in the articles about presidents. I am beginning to wonder if a new RfC is needed for Bush specifically. Surtsicna (talk) 01:57, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Please do so. Consensus reached regarding one politician's infobox does not establish a consensus for all politicians' infoboxes; neither does it establish a standard for what constitutes a "minor office." That should have been evident when your removal of offices from the infobox was reverted. Drdpw (talk) 13:07, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment It is my opinion that his other offices should be restored to the infobox. They were important positions he held and should also be included in the text.JOJHutton15:23, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment It is my opinion they should not be restored. Too much info defeats the purpose of the infobox. An infobox is not a resume. Whatever his other positions, he is known for the presidency. Kleuske (talk) 18:41, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Jojhutton: Do you really want to have the same discussion for every president? That's feels like obstruction. The arguments that were valid on Joe Bidens infobox are equally valid here. His varied array of positions are already mentioned in the article, why clog up the infobox with unneccesary bloat, forcing the reader to scroll for half a mile to get to the relevant bits and make it a disinfobox? Kleuske (talk) 19:28, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Given that what you are attempting to remove here is very different than what was removed at Joe Biden, then yes. A consensus at a single article is not a binding consensus at other articles.JOJHutton19:45, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Bush also generally enjoyed a good relationship with Reagan staffers, including his close friend Jim Baker, who served as Reagan's initial chief of staff
Not to mention, which Jim (James) Baker are we talking about?? The James Baker (disambiguation) page lists 3 lawyers, 14 public officials, and 12 'other people'. While only some of them could have been alive and adults during either Bush's or Reagan's lifetime, this Jim Baker should be a wikilink. That would make it easier to follow up to see whether Baker was a friend of Reagan's, Bush's, or both.
On further follow up it's James Baker who "Jim Baker" refers to. I updated the name to be a wikilink, and updated the ambiguous pronoun from "his friend" to "Bush's friend" as per James Baker article.
Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. The wording in the lede says "championed and signed". While he certainly signed the Civil Rights Act of 1991, he vetoed the similar Civil Rights Act of 1990, so I don't think I would describe him as "championing" the 1991 version he signed. If we were to remove "championed" from the lede, then I think listing the Act of 1991 with the other 3 make sense. However, not sure if doing so would be an improvement as seeing which pieces he did champion is interesting information as well Cannolis (talk) 17:54, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In this edit, the nonsensical "|last2=Writer|first2=Staff" was added to a reference -- please remove it. Also, the template should really be "cite news" with periodical= instead of website=. 66.44.21.145 (talk) 14:52, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
ghwb had been accused of groping women in public. granted, i believe dementia was largely to blame but this is still too important to exclude from the article NotQualified (talk) 22:54, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]