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Marcelino Da Costa Fernandes

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Similar case to Elijeu De Jesus Belo Soares, which was deleted here. Having caps is no longer a 'free pass' and Lino needs to pass WP:GNG or WP:SPORTBASIC. I could find nothing other than database sources like Soccerway and NFT, even when searching in conjunction with his country and Dili Leste. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:27, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Edla Spencer-Churchill, Duchess of Marlborough

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Subject is not shown to demostrate notability other than being married (now seperated) to someone who is notable (Jamie Spencer-Churchill, 12th Duke of Marlborough) DimensionalFusion (talk) 19:02, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mighty Rabbit Studios

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Appears to fail company notability. Limited Run Games was a division of this according to grepbeat.com, perhaps a redirect? IgelRM (talk) 16:41, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mighty rabbit and limited run were originally tied together as companies since limited run began as a division of mighty rabbit but they have more recently have separated into their own separately owned entities after limited run was purchased. where limited run is owned by embracer group, mighty rabbit remains independent. Due to this split, maintaining separate pages would likely be more accurate to their current standing 2603:6081:2100:229:C1A6:D1D4:D485:D2FD (talk) 18:41, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Adecco General Staffing, Australia

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Company doesn't seem to meet WP:ORG. Article read like an advertisement before that material was deleted, but I did a before search, and didn't come up with much aside from company profiles on different sites; nothing in the way of actual new releases, press, etc. Seems like this should be deleted OR redirected/merged to The Adecco Group. If I'm missing anything, I'll gladly rescind. SPF121188 ^{(talk this way)} ^{(my edits)} 18:05, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Railway stations in Karaikudi

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This might work better as a category instead of a page. Charlie (talk) 18:04, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Rezaul Kabir

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Fails to meet the Wikipedia's notability guidelines for Academicians WP:NACADEMICS. WP:NOTRESUME Charlie (talk) 18:02, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dani Brubaker

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Notablity not established; article appears to be wp:promo. Her name does appear in published sources but only in captions for her photography. The one piece of writing I found about her was about winning an honorable mention on pr.com, which is just a press release, not a published article. Yuchitown (talk) 17:41, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I saw this a few days ago while patrolling the NPP feed, and questioned the notability. She is a working commercial photographer who makes some very nice photographs, however she not a notable photographer per WP criteria for WP:NARTIST nor the general notability guideline. She lived in two houses that have been written about, and she took some controversial photographs of a young girl. The sourcing consists of her own website, some blogs or blog-like coverage mostly about the young girl, or about her two houses. Other sources include a self-published Lulu "book", and photo caption mentions. This is not the type of in-depth significant coverage needed for an encyclopedia article; she does not have the type of track record that we normally see for a notable photographer. The article seems to be WP:PROMO. Netherzone (talk) 18:26, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Kadambari Jethwani

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Just like previous AfD, no evidence support this individual's page meeting WP:GNG or WP:NACTOR. Currently, sources cover this person only in the context of a single event which is a sexual harassment case which is still under investigation WP:BLP1E. WP:TOOSOON. Charlie (talk) 17:22, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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DWAD (disambiguation)

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Unneeded per WP:ONEOTHER. The disambiguation page disambiguates only one non-primary topic which is already linked in hatnote. Speedy deletion was declined ~~based on incorrect interpretation of G14~~. older ≠ wiser 16:41, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Urutau (3D Printable Firearm)

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No evidence found of notability, no independent reliable sources about this. Being offered on some sites is not the same as having the necessary sourcing about the subject. Fram (talk) 16:16, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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It is also worth noting that this subject has a significant amount of traction on social media websites like Twitter/X, Reddit, and even LinkedIn. This is difficult to directly cite due to its lack of centralization and login requirements. Still, I would like to think that this subject is notable given that it achieved its publishers' requirements for quality. That said, this subject is relatively new, and I am sure that, in time, more direct evidence of notability will become available. Any suggestions to rectify this in the meantime are appreciated. DreamWeav3r95 (talk) 16:36, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edgar Guerrero

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Nominated for deletion as WP:BLP1E: known only for appearing on La Academia and his romantic involvement with Yuridia. The article has existed for just over 18 years and the subject has yet to demonstrate any other notability. Attempts to find anything notable about the subject only resulted in tabloid-style information about Yuridia; the fact that she is notable does not confer notability onto him. –Skywatcher68 (talk) 16:01, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy Delete nothing on it. Xegma(talk) 16:54, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - In agreement with the nominator. If he was really honored with "Edgar Guerrero Day" in Burley, Idaho, I can only find one independent mention of it in a local newspaper though he often repeats it in his own self-promotions. His minor placement in a reality show does not satisfy WP:BLP1E. The nominator is correct about his later personal life. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 19:44, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of highest-grossing sports films

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Topic fails WP:LISTCRIT, as there is no reliable source on how an items appears on the list. Interpretation of what is or is not a sports film comes off as failing WP:OR. See discussions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Film/Archive_79 in 2022 and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film#List of highest-grossing sports films here in 2024. Two years ago, the article was discussed for deletion, since then, per the second discussion topic this year it has been described as being in a worse state, specifically due to WP:OR, as there is no clear definition of what is or is not a sports film, the list is made up of material selected per choice by editors. Andrzejbanas (talk) 15:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment, these sources seem to discuss the articles subject [1], [2], [3]. Esolo5002 (talk) 16:54, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
while a quick Google search will supply anyone with similar lists, thats not the issue with the article, it's that definition of what the genre is is not clear, and the inclusion of films is up to debate. These lists don't even agree with each other, so how do we classify this? (one lists the Pixar film Cars as the highest grossing, while the other lists The Blind Side, list can't be properly built upon vague interpretations on highest grossing if there is statements like this. Andrzejbanas (talk) 19:21, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Obviously. My favorite ridiculous entry is Babe - sheepdog trials. Barry Wom (talk) 17:03, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
keep if there something that someone thinks should not be there or a film that should bring it up on the talk page and it can be discussed Fanoflionking3 (talk) 18:12, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's not that one user or another decides whether a film belongs on the list, it's that there is no general consensus on what type of film belongs. As it can't be properly classified due to a lack of significant coverage, the list is unsustainable. Andrzejbanas (talk) 19:16, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bring up Babe is about sheepdog trail, sheepdog trails are considered a sport see about sheepdog trail being sports https://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/content/articles/2006/07/24/sheepdog_trials_feature.shtml Fanoflionking3 (talk) 20:00, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While I'm not in denial of it being treated as a sport, what is and what isn't a sport film is less abundantly clear, so we can't just apply items like this. It's not clear what constitute the sports film genre per the links earlier that have different criteria. Andrzejbanas (talk) 20:40, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Embassy of the United States, N'Djamena

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Article lacking secondary sources specifically about the embassy. One source is about the death of the president of Chad, another is about various countries reducing their diplomatic presence due to fighting. Does not meet WP:GNG. AusLondonder (talk) 14:54, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nomination. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 16:00, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Victor G. Dodig

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Refs are routine coverage, interviews. Non-rs whos who. Fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:BIO. scope_creep^Talk 14:52, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kollam Sailors

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Another non notable team in the Kerala Cricket League. 3 teams from this league are at a current AFD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alleppey Ripples, but this article was created in mainspace anyway- after being rejected at AFC. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:44, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per the other deletion discussion and this nominator's rationale. While there is coverage, it is all secondary. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 16:02, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Maria Juliana

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Bit part actor. Lots of social media driven puff piece, clickbait and paid placement article but fails WP:SIGCOV. scope_creep^Talk 14:38, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bouheida

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I couldn't find sources to add verifying this information. Boleyn (talk) 10:58, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. Is this Bouhdida? Geschichte (talk) 13:17, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to Bouhdida Geschichte (talk) 20:18, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of English immigrants to America

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The scope of this list is too broad; there are 212 people in just Category:English emigrants to Massachusetts Bay Colony alone. There must be hundreds if not thousands of Wikipedia articles of people who were English emigrants to the North American colonies. toweli (talk) 14:16, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom, what a baffling topic. Reywas92^Talk 16:26, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Covet Fashion

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lacks significant coverage from reliable sources, failing to meet Wikipedia's notability standards. Loewstisch (talk) 13:54, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete VICE is major significant coverage, and I found additional SIGCOV here in this physical book, but Venture Beat seems more like an interview/primary source. I am not seeing GNG being passed here. If others discover more, I am willing to change my opinion. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:58, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redon Danaj

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No significant coverages. Xegma(talk) 13:24, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Google News, yield no result Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 13:43, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Larry Dorr

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Fails WP:BIO, WP:SIGCOV. Passing mentions and snippets. scope_creep^Talk 13:18, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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KDK College of Engineering

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WP:MILL institution. Fails WP:NSCHOOL. The sources that i could find are either primary, routine, or school/college databases. Recommend Redirect to Rashtrasant Tukadoji Maharaj Nagpur University. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 13:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Matúš Chropovský

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Yet another long-time stub about a Slovak footballer named Matúš, he has only played a few matches in the second tier that lasted a total of 584 minutes so far. Secondary sources from my searches did not show any significant coverage of him. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:00, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bhavnagar Terminus railway station

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Not much coverage beyond that available in database sites. recommend Redirect to Surendranagar–Bhavnagar line. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:58, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect as per nom. Xegma(talk) 13:03, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep. A large, 144-year-old railway station serving a city of 643,000 people is extremely unlikely not to be notable. Per WP:SYSTEMIC could we ever see a station like this in a western country being deleted, however much coverage it had? -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:38, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have no doubt that the station is quite old (it is easy to see it mentioned in the 19th century books), but all my attempts to find RS for WP:V failed. In particular, the reference "Passenger Amenities Details ... Raildrishti" was a disaster (no information and all, just the promotional links, I had to remove it). Unless someone can point me to at least a short coherent text about the station, Redirect. There are tons of articles about Indian stations like that, all adorned by the links to Raildrishti.in.

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Jama Masjid metro station

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Doesn't seem notable enough for its own article. Fails WP:GNG. Recommend Redirect to Violet Line (Delhi Metro). -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:50, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect as per nom. Xegma(talk) 13:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ZWCAD

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This software page does not comply with WP:PRODUCT. It has only routine not sustained coverage in reliable independent secondary sources. Old-AgedKid (talk) 12:30, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ruben Danaj

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Only played in a semi-pro second-tier league, so fails WP:SPORTCRIT - unless there are sources. This seems much too short to be significant, this bears a Wordpress logo (blog) whereas this is a match report mostly made up of quotes. It's about two people, Ruben and his brother Redon Danaj. I have notability doubts about Redon Danaj as well, otherwise he might be a merge target. Geschichte (talk) 12:21, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2024 European Congress of Mathematics

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Non-notable instance of an academic conference published from Articles for Creation by User:TakuyaMurata (hence not sending to Speedy or Prod. Suggested outcome is a delete, or merge to the parent article. Sadads (talk) 12:21, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Obviously, not every conference is notable but this one is fairly large so probably notable enough for Wikipedia. I get some other editors might feel differently. But I think we can at least agree European Congress of Mathematics is notable enough. Not sure whether my name is related to the question of the notability: if a concern is the conflict of interest, I am not involved in the conference. —- Taku (talk) 12:27, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand why you wouldn't merge this to the parent article? Academic conferences of 2000 people are not exactly.... prominent or of lasting public interest unless they are connected to something notable (i.e. a public declaration, something like a newsworthy public event (i.e. a bombing) etc). Its far different than conferences that include large negotations or notable outcomes (thinking something like 2017 United Nations Climate Change Conference), Sadads (talk) 17:27, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I am not against the merger, although if the article were to be merged, it needs to be shortened greatly, obviously. As for the notability, I don’t think we should be discussing the significance, which is different. Because of the Internet, a conference such as this clearly has lost some of significance (since we can communicate much easily online today). The notability, on the other hand, should be determined by a relative position within mathematics. In terms of size, the conference is second only to International Congress of Mathematicians. We should draw a line somewhere and my view is that this conference would cross that line, since we can’t quite argue ICM is the only notable conference in mathematics, which seems too high a bar. —- Taku (talk) 19:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Mohammed Tharwat Hassan

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Associate Professor with an h-factor of 12 and no major awards. No evidence that he comes close to satisfying any of the WP:NPROF criteria. While notability was challenged in a tag by Kj cheetham in Feb 2022, it appears it was not followed up on. He has somehow slipped through the normal review process that would avoid non-notable academics. Ldm1954 (talk) 12:15, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Alex Elias

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Non-notable AI founder, without a significant claim of seperate interest - -not sure if we should roll up into the AI company Sadads (talk) 12:09, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Already an article for Qloo, his company, and I see very little coverage focusing on him as opposed to the company. Article reads as very promotional and there may be a conflict-of-interest issue as several accounts in the edit history have exclusively edited/created this article. StewdioMACK (talk) 16:41, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Qloo. This bio article falls short of notability. — Maile (talk) 19:29, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bou Lahrath

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I couldn't find sources to verify this information is correct. Boleyn (talk) 11:18, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boulahrath Geschichte (talk) 13:14, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:GAZETTEER. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 13:50, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Boleyn: Communes in Mauritania are significant administrative subdivisions with mayors, deputy mayors and councillors. It is a waste of everyone's time to keep nominating these articles for deletion. It would take less time and would be much more useful if you would expand these stubs.

To find a solid source for any of these communes, check the foot of the article, where you will see.

Click on the link to Communes of Mauritania, scroll down, and you will see

Official site

Click on that link, click "ok" in the search box, and you will get a list of all the communes. Click on the link for Bou Lahreth and you see information like

BOU LAHRATH

Région : ASSABA

Commune Collectivités urbaines à vocation agricole, pastorale ou agropastorale

Le Maire : Zeine O/ Ahmed Salem O/ Kebady PRDS

Les Maires Adjoints : Ahmed Salem O/ Salem, El Hareth O/ Nouh, Ahmed O/ Bilal, Mohmed Mahmoud O/ Youba, Habiboullah O/ Mohamed Mensour

Les Conseillers : Abdellahi O/ Naji O/ Khouna ( décedé le27 avril2002 ) Demab O/ Mohamed Radhi Sidi Mahmoud O/ Sidi Mohamed Moustapha O/ Mohamed Habib Mohamedou Naji O/ Outhmane Hadrami O/ Mohamed Abdel Wehab El Ghassem O/ Mohamed Jiddou Mohamed Nouh O/ Mohamed Salem Brahim O/ Mohamed Inejih O/ Bilal Boubacar O/ Salem

Yes, it is indeed a commune of Mauritania in the Assaba Region. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:09, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Obvious keep but might need to be moved to Boulahrath. Geschichte (talk) 12:29, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Red (slur)

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Unnecessary WP:INCDAB. 2 of the 3 entries could be summarized by Red (political adjective), which itself redirects to Red#In politics. Meanwhile, Redskin or Red people aren't listed in Red (disambiguation), so its importance is unclear. I don't really see potential for a WP:BROADCONCEPT article. – sgeureka ^t•c 08:20, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Doesn't seem to be a point to this disambiguation. What's it disambiguating? Nobody would type 'Red (slur)' in, or create a link to this page. They'd just go to Red which should handle the disambiguation, which it does through a link at the top. --Here2rewrite (talk) 12:49, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete MOS:DABSHORT violation. Neither wikt:red nor Republican_Party_(United_States) attests the "Supporter of" part of "Supporter of the Republican Party (United States)", and I question whether it doesn't simply mean just GOP, which is sourced in Republican_Party_(United_States)#Name_and_symbols. Sources can be found for the other two, but usually don't go in a DAB. Also, WP:NOTDICTIONARY. 142.113.140.146 (talk) 13:29, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"MOS:DABSHORT violation" can be addressed by relabeling the page as a set index article (instead of a DAB page), so it isn't a strong reason to delete. Jruderman (talk) 12:57, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep because it's just misnamed, not inherently problematic. Instead, assuming this AfD concludes without deletion, let's:
1. Relabel the page from WP:Disambiguation to WP:Set index, and
2. Either:
  - Start a move discussion to a more neutral title such as "Red (political epithet)" or "Red (politics)" or "Red in politics", OR
  - Start a merge discussion into Red#In_politics. — Jruderman (talk) 03:35, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and rename, but "politics" is wrong, since the ethnic one isn't politics (except in a sense too broad for disambiguation) purposes. Just "epithet" would work better. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 07:08, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A rename to "Red (epithet)" would address the neutrality and precision concerns, but not the concerns about necessity: it is not clear how readers would land at this specific page, rather than, say, "Red (disambiguation)" or the Wiktionary page for "Red".
What do you think of these alternatives?
- Merge and/or redirect to Red (disambiguation)#Politics
- Merge and/or redirect to Red (disambiguation), as a new section #Epithet
- Merge and/or redirect to Red#In politics
- Merge and/or redirect to Political_colour#Red
- Redirect to Redskin, the only one that's really a slur, leaving the modern left/right meanings (often neutral but sometimes used as epithets) for other pages.
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Belgian Ringbeater

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Cannot find reliable significant secondary coverage. Only found this: https://www.google.co.nz/books/edition/American_Pigeon_Journal/gadOAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22Belgian+Ringbeater%22&dq=%22Belgian+Ringbeater%22&printsec=frontcover (trivial mention) and this: https://www.google.co.nz/books/edition/Encyclopedia_of_Pigeon_Breeds/WECq0AEACAAJ?hl=en although I cannot access the latter to confirm if it actually mentions the breed or not. I'm not aware of any active pigeon fanciers on Wikipedia to ask about this either. Traumnovelle (talk) 09:15, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Turns out that some more sources pop up when searching for the Dutch names, particularly "Ringlsager Belge": [4], [5], [6], and here's the website of a German club entirely devoted ot them (go figure): [7]. So I think we are good WRT availability of potential sources. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 07:29, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All of these websites are self-published as far as I can tell. Traumnovelle (talk) 07:54, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say that an extended definition by a national fancier club constitutes a reliable source on the breed. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 08:44, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fancier clubs are self-published and non-independent. They're only really useful for basic information such as the breed standard. They don't satisfy the independent requirement of WP:GNG even ignoring their self-published nature. Traumnovelle (talk) 08:51, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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~~weak keep~~ : Coverage in the American Pigeon Journal from 1983, [8], should have enough sourcing with the others listed above. Oaktree b (talk) 00:58, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Nom had found the same source I did, so it's just not enough for coverage. Oaktree b (talk) 00:59, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pretty Mary Sunshine

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources, only mentions. None of the links in the article are reliable sources. toweli (talk) 10:40, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Joan Palmiter Bajorek

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I have checked many references and find them to be a mixture of passing mentions and what Bajorek says. Otherwise this reads like a resumé. WP:ADMASQ and failed WP:BIO. The whole swathe of alleged references is WP:BOMBARD. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 09:31, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: I agree that several of the sources in the article are primary and that others only make brief mentions of her but she is covered in a sufficient number of secondary sources to support notability. I am no expert in AI-related voice technology but some of the awards appear to be significant.--Ipigott (talk) 09:51, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Riddlesdown railway station

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Non-notable train station per WP:NTRAINSTATION. Cannot find WP:SIGCOV on Google News or Google Books. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - _uselesscontributions} 09:17, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Scribe (company)

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Routine funding rounds (WP:SERIESA), paid press releases. Lacks direct in-depth coverage per WP:CORPDEPTH. StrongDeterrence (talk) 09:14, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jennifer Smith (entrepreneur)

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Non-notable tech entrepreneur. Fails WP:GNG as it stands. StrongDeterrence (talk) 09:13, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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César Grajales (political commentator)

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A lot of paid coverage; I don't think there is any in-depth coverage about him. Fails WP:GNG. StrongDeterrence (talk) 09:10, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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- Draftify, else Delete seems to be created by a WP:SPA and should go through the AfC process before being created.
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America Mortgages

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After a lot of clean-up of spammy references, there is nothing left about this mortgage company. Fails WP:NCORP. StrongDeterrence (talk) 09:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Real estate WP:PROMO trash indeed; this neither appeals to a regular reader or an investor looking for useful information about the company; always a bad sign when the parent company's article is non-existent, thus I can declare to @RandomBeat: that you're bad at this paid article placement thing. Nate • (chatter) 20:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

David Gottfried

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Other than this article, I don't think there is any in-depth coverage about this real estate developer. Fails WP:GNG as it stands. StrongDeterrence (talk) 09:02, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Vincent Moon

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Dubious notability, virtually no hits from RS in Google, seems to only exist to promote the article's subject Fastily 08:27, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Forensic Services

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Can find very little evidence for the continued existence of this unit. The only provided reference is A) dead and B) a primary source.

The one evidence I can find for existence of this "SCD 4" is this newsletter from 2005!

In any case, even if it exists, does not seem to be particularly notable and hence does not warrant an article Elshad (talk) 08:05, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete (original creator many years ago!) With some better sourcing, this could have been notable, but the lack of any current useful sourcing undermines any real claim to utility, and it seems it does not exist in this form anyway. ninety:one 13:35, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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2026 G7 Games

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Completely unsourced, and no actual evidence that this event is taking place. WP:TOOSOON also applies. CycloneYoris ^talk! 07:09, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete zero indication these even exist, let alone notable. At best unsourced and WP:TOOSOON KylieTastic (talk) 10:47, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as suspected hoax. Geschichte (talk) 12:27, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I can not find any information about these games in a Google search, so I am not sure if they even exist. This could probably qualify for speedy deletion as a G3 or A7. Frank Anchor 13:14, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete: Sounds like a Hoax Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 13:55, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete Generally basing a sporting event on the economic status of its members is a bad idea for planning and competitive purposes; this is clearly MADEUP. Nate • (chatter) 20:08, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Penelope Brudenell, Countess of Cardigan

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If there is any significant coverage of Lady Cardigan in reliable sources, I am not seeing it either in this article or in my Google Books search. All I see are genealogy compilations and that is indeed what the article amounts to for the most part. Surtsicna (talk) 19:03, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - I can't deny that we don't (or I don't) know much about the countess, but she was a Lady of the Bedchamber, for which we have a category. I feel we're a bit dismissive of female roles in society in past centuries, and that's one of the many reasons Wikipedia's gender balance is poor. Deb (talk) 07:57, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I sort of agree with Deb. She had a relatively notable role in court. I wish someone with more knowledge or expertise could step forward and improve the article a little bit. Keivan.f^Talk 11:35, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But all three of us know that which role she held (and only for a few months, if I may add) is not what determines encyclopedic notability. The criterion (WP:GNG) is whether she has received "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". So far I do not see evidence of significant coverage. I also think that having a biography with 95% of its content being who the subject's parents, husband, children, and brother-in-law were is not doing much at all for the state of women's biographies on Wikipedia. Surtsicna (talk) 13:20, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

-) You don't think that having all those children was an achievement? Deb (talk) 07:07, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you can cite a historian who considers it an achievement, please do. Surtsicna (talk) 12:38, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think we can measure a woman's level of notability by the number of children she has given birth to. But if indeed it was a notable achievement then one can cite a source and include the relevant info! Keivan.f^Talk 21:40, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per @Deb Killuminator (talk) 15:04, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Killuminator, could you please explain how Deb has demonstrated that the article passes WP:GNG ("significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject")? Surtsicna (talk) 15:47, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The way the article itself is written does not make the subject look notable enough. As nominator explains, writing about the subject's parents, husband, children, and brother-in-law, etc., does not make her notable enough for a standalone encyclopedia article. The subject does not meet WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. Prof.PMarini (talk) 04:29, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Trying to search on newspapers.com [9] but i can't access. 58.136.119.76 (talk) 18:40, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above, and because she was the central character of a notable painting, England: Richmond Hill, on the Prince Regent's Birthday. Women of her time and station had a lot of influence without any formal power. Bearian (talk) 03:00, 26 August 2024 (UTC) P.S. I added fascinating information about her family connections to the Charge of the Light Brigade and other famous descendants in British history. Bearian (talk) 03:55, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

None of that addresses WP:GNG concerns, i.e. the issue of her not receiving significant coverage in reliable sources. Her family connections and famous descendants mean nothing; see WP:INVALIDBIO. The only reason to have this article is if you, or someone, can prove that she has received significant coverage in reliable sources. Surtsicna (talk) 19:59, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I'm very conscious of the need to address the gender imbalance on Wikipedia, but it should be achieved by focusing on women scientists, doctors, engineers, activists and leaders. Not by keeping an article on someone who fails WP:NBIO that is virtually entirely describing a woman through the context of her husband, brothers, father and many children. Frankly, that's an insult to the goal of improving women's biographies on Wikipedia. This is a textbook case of WP:INVALIDBIO: "That person A has a relationship with well-known person B, such as being a spouse or child, is not a reason for a standalone article on A (unless significant coverage can be found on A); relationships do not confer notability." AusLondonder (talk) 17:26, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep She was the Lady of the Bedchamber during her time, a notable and high-ranking social position in the palace. This role may be equivalent to the Sang-bok rank in the inner court of Joseon. The Sang-bok rank in Korea could pass WP:NPOL as it was one of the highest positions in the Joseon inner court. The Korean monarchy had two courts: the royal court (which functioned like a parliament) and the inner court (the court of the palace). The internal court, headed by the queen, wielded both political and judicial power. However, I'm unsure if the Lady of the Bedchamber had influence similar to that of the Sang-bok. Nonetheless, Lady of the Bedchamber served as like the queen's chief secretary, which could be considered notable, and she was also a subject of royal artwork. Therefore, I believe her role is significant enough to warrant inclusion. 223.204.71.128 (talk) 12:49, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And which sources discuss her in detail as a proof of how exalted her position was? Surtsicna (talk) 20:01, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Albert Chao

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Fails WP:BIO, WP:SIGCOV. scope_creep^Talk 06:35, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ji (surname 蓟)

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Nonnotable surname (only one notable individual with this surname, who probably died 1800 years ago and who has no page on enwiki); material can be merged into Ji (surname). We don't need so many articles with Chinese disambiguators. Yinweiaiqing (talk) 03:10, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, unless a stronger reason for deletion can be provided. The article currently cites multiple sources – is there something wrong with them? It doesn't make sense to merge to what is effectively a disambiguation page. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 15:09, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: per Mx. Granger. What's wrong with articles using Chinese disambiguators? C F A 💬 22:53, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The sources are entirely lists and it fails WP:NNAME. I'm failing to see how the article passes WP:NOTDICT. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 04:57, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete the first source is just a list of surnames from 1,000 years ago. It is a trivial mention and improper use of primary sources. The second source doesn't mention the surname, I can't really tell if the third source is reliable or not, it appears to be user generated but it may just be how the site is presented. Traumnovelle (talk) 08:58, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Project Kuwait

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I don't see that the article meets the notability policy; it's just a plan and has not been implemented in reality.-- فيصل (talk) 14:03, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Petroleum industry in Kuwait, which was partially sourced with a link to the Central Intelligence Agency. Written the same year as this one, it's much more clear and concise about the subject matter. — Maile (talk) 18:27, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Peter Vandenberg

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Fails WP:SPORTCRIT. Only primary sources provided, a search for his name and birth name yielded only namesakes in Google news, books and Australian database Trove. LibStar (talk) 03:41, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Represented his nation. Multiple secondary sources available on British newspaper Archive, I have added two of them and there are plenty more available. Racingmanager (talk) 13:43, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Representing nation does not guarantee notability. LibStar (talk) 09:15, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep passes WP:NMOTORSPORT. SpacedFarmer (talk) 19:46, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Source review, per Liz's note - I am unable to access the last two sources (the ones from British Newspaper Archive) and cannot assess those. StartGrammarTime (talk) 14:08, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Source assessment table: prepared by User:StartGrammarTime
https://wwosbackup.proboards.com/thread/852/peter-vandenberg	?	Proboards forum	List of stats	✘ No
http://speedwayplus.com/Southampton1961.shtml		?	One picture	✘ No
https://britishspeedway.co.uk/docs/Ultimate_Index_1929-2022.pdf		? Hosted on British Speedway site, but unclear if it's been vetted	Extremely brief statistics	✘ No
https://britishspeedway.co.uk/history-archive/			Page is a list of archives; search for 'Vandenberg' has no results	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Keep for now. The two more promising references are missing from the source review. Historical figure. Absolutely no BLP concern. gidonb (talk) 10:41, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pinging @StartGrammarTime , as they undertook the source review but didn't cast a !vote. LibStar (talk) 06:09, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per my source table. Thanks LibStar for the ping. My hope was that having seen the source table, someone would be able to add a source that could demonstrate he met GNG. The sources I cannot access are being used to support only extremely minimal information, which makes me believe that there is no other information available in those sources either. Without any information on him from reliable sources, he cannot be notable and thus I must agree with the nominator. StartGrammarTime (talk) 09:12, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Air Serbia destinations

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Fails WP:NOT, WP:NCORP, WP:NLIST.

WP:NOT is failed because this is a complete listing of the services of a company. As such it is excluded under WP:NOTCATALOG no. 6 which states that "Listings to be avoided include [...] products and services". It is also an indiscriminate listing - all destinations ever flown to, however briefly, are listed without any attempt to summarise them which is against WP:IINFO. In reality this list is mostly services the airline doesn't present fly, does not fly year-round, or charter flights. It is therefore not a list of flights that Air Serbia actually offered in August 2023.

WP:NCORP (which applies to the services of companies as well as the companies themselves) is failed because none of the sources here are independent, third-party, reliable sources. This article is sourced entirely to old airline-issued timetables, the company website, press releases, enthusiast blogs like aeroroutes.net and www.exyuaviation.com/, or to run-of-the-mill articles in trade-press. Sources that clearly pass WP:ORGIND are needed, but none are present.

WP:NLIST is failed because none of these sources are independent, third-party, reliable sources giving significant coverage to the topic of the services this airline offers as a group. FOARP (talk) 11:56, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep all of these WP:NOT arguments are wrong and are inconsistent with the most recent RfC. First, third party reliable sources frequently cover Air Serbia destinations, even in Croatian [10]. This even quotes Vučić about a specific route. Sourcing is not an issue here. The catalogue argument fails because destinations are not "services" in the sense of another business - where an airline flies is clearly essential to understanding the airline, unlike an old style catalogue which is trying to sell you products. WP:IINFO doesn't apply because there's nothing indiscriminate about this at all. This is a valid list and while the sourcing could be improved, there's absolutely no reason to delete this. SportingFlyer T·C 18:01, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

”per the recent RFC” - care to give us a link here? I’m not aware of a new RFC having closed in this field lately. Having checked on VPP, the Aviation project page, and the WP:NOT talk page I also don’t see one. Regarding the sources you raise, the Jurnarji List source is based entirely on Croation Aviation Portal, apparently a blog, the link to which is 404 but an archived version shows the information apparently to come entirely from the airline since no source is cited. Quotes from government officials hardly matter for notability of what is the state airline.

I also note that this is essentially the same argument that you've made multiple times in a long string of AFDs (15 out of the last 15), all of which closed delete/redirect/merge. FOARP (talk) 04:51, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No - I don't have time to try to save all of these articles right now, but it was the RfC which was appealed which basically said this sort of information is fine to include in the encyclopedia if WP:DUE is mentioned. I also think you're absolutely wrong on policy here, and whenever these are opened up to the community there's never been a clear consensus to delete. Some of these articles do need to be deleted on sourcing grounds, so your 15 for 15 argument is worthless. I also don't know how you can argue Jutarnji isn't reliable, either, it's the second largest news portal in Croatia. SportingFlyer T·C 19:48, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I honestly don’t know what RFC you’re talking about. I suspect it’s one of the ones about Airports, which are obviously not the same topic as Airlines. FOARP (talk) 05:50, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep/merge This is not a resource for doing business so NOTCATALOGUE doesn't apply. It is well defined and of limited scope so it is not indiscriminate. Sources do cover the topic, and even if alternative formats for presentation may be better, it does not need to be deleted outright. Reywas92^Talk 23:21, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOTDB. This is just the airline's route map in list form. Also an exhaustive list of the places this carrier has flown to since it was founded nearly a century ago is a clear case of an indiscriminate collection of information. Sunnya343 (talk) 14:55, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep/merge Per Reywas92. — Sadko (words are wind) 13:39, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep/merge Per Reywas92. Боки ☎ ✎ 23:11, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep/merge We should merge these information into the airline's article, as per others said,they don't violate it, in addition, we need to stop trying to have airlines destinations list deleted because Wikipedia is the only place that has these information, it is a big mistake that the other ones got deleted, especially the one for Lufthansa, United Airlines and American Airlines, if we really don't need these to exist as a article, we should have merged the airlines destinations list into the airline article itself, a pity that the ones that got deleted was no longer available.... Metrosfan (talk) 05:38, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep/merge per Reywas92. ‹hamster717🐉› ^{(discuss anything!🐹✈️ • my contribs🌌🌠)} 13:46, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom, various WP:NOT violations. Rosbif73 (talk) 15:20, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What Merge target are people proposing? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:21, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article to be merged to Air Serbia Metrosfan (talk) 15:31, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's also an acceptable merge target for me, if we must merge. FOARP (talk) 12:43, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep/merge Pmbma (talk) 20:20, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm guessing that many years ago, somebody thought the Air Serbia page was a good candidate for being split into two pages, and had no idea that in 2024 people would then see the List of Air Serbia destinations page as a candidate for deletion. If we cannot tolerate having a second page, then better to have one large page instead of deleting content. Pmbma (talk) 20:23, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I wrote Keep/Merge because my intention is to retain information, but do not really care whether we keep this page, or merge it in with another page. Perhaps I should have written my vote as "Retain Information Content". The tendency years ago on wikipedia was to split a single large page into two or more pages to keep the size of any single page modest. It seems that the tendency now is that it's better to have one large page instead of multiple pages because that way it keeps better to the rules of what page titles are permitted on wikipedia. Ideally I'd like to keep this page because otherwise it makes the Air Serbia page rather large, but if this page has to disappear, then I think it better we just merge the contents of this page into its "parent" Air Serbia page. I favour Keep only very slightly over Merge - I don't really care which of Keep or Merge is the eventual outcome. My worst case option is that we permanently remove the information on this page from wikipedia. Pmbma (talk) 13:22, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Air Serbia#Destinations – If the information, can be sourced to reliable secondary sources talking about the destinations as a group or set , not just primary sources talking about new destinations that will soon be added, and also be put into context, then would I support a merge. As it stands now, the majority of the sources, albeit a few, mostly agreeing with the nomination's section on the sources used, do not help establish the list's notability. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:53, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In the past, some wiki-editors have preferred an "official" source - namely the Air Serbia website - rather than an independent source. Perhaps we as wikipedians should do a better job about educating people on the merits of an independent source versus a primary source, but saying angry words to volunteers doesn't usually end well. :-)

I've added a reliable secondary source for many of the destinations. Haven't got every single destination because I don't have time to search the web for hours, but what I have added should mean we have independent and non-dead-link source coverage of about 85% or more of casesPmbma (talk) 14:11, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of intercity bus stops in South Dakota

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Does not meet WP:NLIST. Also nominating the sister article List of intercity bus stops in North Dakota for the same reason. I found mostly maps of the stops themselves, though I fail to see how the bus stops in a list format provide notability. Conyo14 (talk) 05:37, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Embassy of Kazakhstan, Ottawa

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Article merely confirms it exists with its own website as the only source. Fails GNG. LibStar (talk) 01:08, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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KEEP --92.77.57.69 (talk) 18:10, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:JUSTAVOTE. LibStar (talk) 23:01, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Canada–Kazakhstan relations: fails GNG. C F A 💬 22:50, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Article is almost completely devoid of content, effectively just a directory listing. Fails WP:GNG. AusLondonder (talk) 14:55, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2024 Mexican judicial reform

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Borderline, but seems to fall under WP:NOTNEWS. Sourcing is heavily primary. Esolo5002 (talk) 03:11, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose, seems notable to me. Might be somewhat short, could expand scope to any Mexican judicial reform, not only 2024. Currently Judiciary of Mexico does not discuss any reforms. HudecEmil (talk) 07:40, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is worth noting that though this is not López Obrador's first attempt at judicial reform, this is the most significant. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:48, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Immortal Disfigurement

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Band fails WP:BAND with no coverage in reliable sources. GTrang (talk) 02:33, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - It is WP:TOOSOON to be charitable. The formation of the band got a few notices in the metal press because the singer is known for being in a better-known band previously, but this article tries to latch onto that band's notability in violation of WP:NOTINHERITED. Otherwise the article is dependent on unreliable social media chatter because the reliable media has not reported on the band or its releases. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 19:47, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NASCAR Inside The Playoffs

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Does not meet WP:GNG. A WP:BEFORE search yielded no results aside from the IMDb result, which is not reliable. Conyo14 (talk) 02:19, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Delete or Redirect to NASCAR on TNT. There isn't even a press release from TruTV announcing the existence of this show. This is a case where I would have done a bold move to Draft before taking it to AFD. Esolo5002 (talk) 03:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think Redrecting it to NASCAR on TNT is a good idea. MysticCipher87(alt-account) (talk) 15:11, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: Obviously sourcing solely to IMDb doesn't bode well, but the news portion of IMDb is all aggregated from other sites… and I doubt the original/actual source, TV Everyday, is what we're looking for either for notability or significant coverage. The program is probably going to be a relatively run-of-the-mill NASCAR news and analysis show anyway. (I'm not sure there's sufficient potential notability here to justify drafitification or sufficiently-reliable sourcing to even mention anywhere on Wikipedia; I also don't see this falling under any speedy deletion criteria, since there was a comment to that end.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:39, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to NASCAR on TNT - this program appears to be on the truTV schedule for Sept 5 at 7PM ET, but that's all I could find. Limmidy (talk) 18:54, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keystone Academy

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Unable to find sufficient WP:SIGCOV in independent, reliable sources to meet WP:GNG/WP:NSCHOOL. Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:53, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete need more significant coverages. Xegma(talk) 13:10, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Black Fragility

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This article covers a definition of a term used by one person, it does not appear to be a broader subject of academic discussion. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 01:52, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. This term doesn't appear exclusive to Loury. McWhorter uses it (here, here), and Steele uses it in a very different context. Regardless, I'm not finding coverage of the concept itself, to the extent it exists, or evidence that it's a unified concept among the scholars who have deployed it. I also don't see an appropriate redirect to White fragility since the article does not currently use the term in discussing McWhorter's criticism of DiAngelo. Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:24, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Embassy of Japan, Kyiv

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Fails GNG. Whilst it looks like a lot of sources, most of these are used to confirm previous ambassadors. LibStar (talk) 00:47, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: can you confirm what kind of WP:BEFORE search you conducted and how you went about identifying and assessing any Ukrainian and Japanese language sources as part of that? DCsansei (talk) 16:03, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: looks notable enough to me, and iI see sources in the History section. A redirect to the list of diplomatic missions of Japan or to Uk-Jp relations is totally warranted anyway. But I am really not convinced by the rationale of this nomination (especially when the majority of the sources are NOT about the ambassadors). -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:11, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
When I nominated the article, majority of sources were about the ambassadors [11]. This has subsequently changed with new additions. LibStar (talk) 23:10, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. I should havec checked that. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:31, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - I've added a few sources which should take this mission over the GNG and see plenty more. Appears that there was no WP:BEFORE search including Japanese sources. I'm not competent in Ukranian but my guess is that there would be additional sources found if a WP:BEFORE was done including Ukranian sources. DCsansei (talk) 07:25, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fletcher Myers

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No significant coverage, all sources are databases or non-independent Thebiguglyalien (talk) 00:46, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep: Young player who has recently made his debut, likely more sources will be available in near future. Mn1548 (talk) 08:19, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What you are really arguing for here seems to be a draftification. We can't have articles that don't have significant coverage at the moment (WP:TOOSOON / WP:CRYSTAL). Geschichte (talk) 12:23, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Francis Rasolofonirina

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 00:34, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep [12], [13], [14] look like decent coverage to. I'd say that amounts to WP:SIGCOV. I've expanded the article based on these sources. Robby.is.on (talk) 10:28, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Robby.is.on doing a Heymann standard job with the article. Geschichte (talk) 12:25, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Li Hi-yon

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 00:23, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify it for now. Xegma(talk) 13:15, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kim Hyok-son

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 00:20, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Zahir Dakenov

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Fails WP:POET, WP:ANYBIO or WP:GNG. No source to establish notability. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 00:20, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy Delete no published sources yet. Xegma(talk) 13:12, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Flora Plumb

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Fails WP:NACTOR with no major credits. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:19, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: her career as theater actress and educator seems rather notable and her contributions to TV series/film might be seen as prolific. I haven’t searched for better sources so this is a weak keep. Would a redirect to the Personal life section in the article about her sister be an acceptable ATD? -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:56, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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La Joya Early College High School

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This school has insufficient coverage to be notable. Fails WP:NSCHOOL, hence, fail WP:GNG. A possible ATD is La Joya Independent School District. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 00:04, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect and merge to La Joya High School Same building, same personnel, just a different 'grade'. Nate • (chatter) 00:12, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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IILM University Greater Noida

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This degree-awarding institution has insufficient coverage to be notable. Fails WP:NSCHOOL, hence, fail WP:GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 00:01, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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