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Nottingham derby
Other namesTrentside derby
LocationEngland Nottingham
TeamsNottingham Forest, Notts County
First meetingNotts County 1–3 Nottingham Forest
1878–79 FA Cup
(16 November 1878)
Latest meetingNotts County 0-1 Nottingham Forest (Pre-Season Friendly)
StadiumsCity Ground
Meadow Lane
Statistics
Meetings total96
Most winsNottingham Forest (40)
All-time seriesNottingham Forest: 40
Draw: 27
Notts County: 30
Largest victoryNottingham Forest 5-0 Notts County
1900–01 First Division
(24 November 1900)
Nottingham Forest 5-0 Notts County
1953–54 Second Division
(10 October 1953)

The Nottingham derby is the name given to football matches contested between Nottingham Forest and Notts County.

History

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The two clubs are amongst the oldest football clubs in the World. County were formed in 1862 and are the oldest professional association football club in the world. Forest were formed three years later by a group of men playing the now largely unknown sport of bandy.[1]

The first meeting between the two clubs was a friendly on 22 March 1866. The match was a 0–0 draw and was probably on the Forest Recreation Ground.[1]

The first competitive meeting in the FA Cup came on 16 November 1878 and resulted in a 3–1 victory for Nottingham Forest. The first league game occurred on 8 October 1892 and resulted in a 3–1 victory for Notts County.[1]

The last league Nottingham derby occurred on 12 February 1994 and resulted in a 2–1 victory for Notts County. Charlie Palmer (or 'Sir' Charlie Palmer as he has been dubbed by Notts County fans) scored with just four minutes remaining and only ninety seconds after Forest had equalised. The date, 12 February, is now known to local fans as Charlie Palmer Day.[2]

Comparative table positions of Nottingham Forest and Notts County in the English football league system

The rivalry was resurrected on 9 August 2011, when the clubs met in the first round of the Football League Cup at the City Ground, with Forest winning a penalty shootout after the match had ended 3–3.[3]

Aerial image of the two club's grounds

The two clubs rarely meet as they are in different tiers of the league system and supporters generally view other regional clubs as more prominent rivals. However, recent years have seen incidents of trouble between supporters. In 2007, a 'friendly' match between the clubs saw violence erupt after the final whistle.[4] And in 2017, several followers of both sides were convicted of taking part in a prearranged mass brawl in a pub in Nottingham.[5] Another friendly match the previous summer also saw four arrests.[6] Trouble broke out once again at a pre-season 'friendly' in July 2022, with fighting between fans and stewards in the stands spilling on to the pitch.[7] The game ended in a 2–2 draw. The teams met again in July 2023 with Forest coming out 1-0 winners.

Statistics

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The two clubs have met a total of 94 times in the League, FA Cup and League Cup. The two sides have contested games in a number of other competitions including the Nottinghamshire County Senior Cup and the Anglo-Italian Cup. The results and statistics from those games are not included below.[1]

Competition County wins Draws Forest wins County goals Forest goals
League 28 23 35 99 114
FA Cup 2 1 3 10 11
League Cup 0 1 1 3 7
Total 30 25 41 112 132

League

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Cup matches

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Date Venue Matches Competition
Team 1 Score Team 2
16 November 1878 Trent Bridge Notts County
1–3
Nottingham Forest FA Cup
8 November 1879 Trent Bridge Nottingham Forest
4–0
Notts County FA Cup
1 December 1883 Trent Bridge Notts County
3–0
Nottingham Forest FA Cup
26 November 1887 Trent Bridge Nottingham Forest
2–1
Notts County FA Cup
24 February 1894 Trent Bridge Nottingham Forest
1–1
Notts County FA Cup
3 March 1894 Trent Bridge Notts County
4–1
Nottingham Forest FA Cup
25 October 1977 City Ground Nottingham Forest
4–0
Notts County League Cup
9 August 2011 City Ground Nottingham Forest
3–3
(4–3 p)
Notts County League Cup

References

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  1. ^ a b c d Smales, Ken (2006). Nottingham Forest The Official Statistical History. Pineapple Books.
  2. ^ "12 February will always be 'Charlie Palmer Day'". 16 February 2013. Archived from the original on 10 July 2015.
  3. ^ "Nottingham Forest 3–3 Notts County (4–3 on penalties)". BBC Sport. 9 August 2011. Retrieved 20 October 2012.
  4. ^ "Fans face bans over pitch fights". BBC. 31 July 2007.
  5. ^ "Nottingham Forest and Notts County fans locked up over mass brawl in city pub". Nottingham Post. 27 April 2017. Archived from the original on 1 May 2017. Retrieved 3 May 2017.
  6. ^ "Four arrested at Forest v Notts County match". Nottingham Post. 23 July 2016. Archived from the original on 24 July 2016. Retrieved 3 May 2017.
  7. ^ "Video emerges of fans fighting with stewards at Notts County v Nottingham Forest". 27 July 2022.
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