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Sanders Defense of Crime Bill
[edit]His actual defense of the Crime Bill back in the day was because he thought the country needed more jails and needed to be tougher on crime. That's what he said then, and ought to be presented rather than what he said afterthe fact when his position became unpopular. https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/26/politics/sanders-1994-crime-bill-kfile/ 2604:2D80:B50E:5100:584C:E496:377:9E81 (talk) 13:26, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Early life/Father Elias Sanders/Holocaust
[edit]The use of the conjunction 'although' in the sentence "Elias Sanders […] became a paint salesman, although his family was killed in the Holocaust" does not make any sense. And even after reading through the two references, I cannot find out what exactly is actually meant by the sentence. The Kurt F. Stone, "Jews of Capitol Hill" source claims that "[h]is father […] had emigrated from Poland at age seventeen after (sic!) his family had been wiped out in the Holocaust", which is obviously false, and the quote should be deleted IMHO. Elias Sanders emigrated in 1921, when there was no Holocaust in sight. There is obviously no causal relationship between the Holocaust and his emigration. A more detailed account of his immmigration history and his travels between Europe and the U.S. can be found in this article. The npr.org source OTOH reads (a bit incoherently) "Sanders' father's family was mostly wiped out during the Holocaust, and his father was a struggling paint salesman", without providing specifics for the fate of his family and the identity of the persons in question. Elias Sanders' core family (wife, children) lived in the U.S., and at least his mother died years before WW2 (in 1934). Although there is (speculative) information about a half-brother being killed, AFAICT nothing is known about other siblings. IMHO the Holocaust reference should be removed from the chapter's first paragraph and left to the second paragraph, where it more generally refers to 'relatives' in Poland. Mottenkiste (talk) 13:08, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
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