Talk:Taher Elgamal
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[edit]See Talk:Pretty Good Privacy#Copied from User talk:Jdcc for a discussion of how Dr Elgamal spells his name. Since the article is now correct, we should probably change the title to be correct also. But this involves a lot of links and changing them. does anyone want to undertake this? In the meantime, there's now a redirect page pointing here from Taher Elgamal. ww 23:31, 13 May 2004 (UTC)
- Should it then be Elgamal discrete log cryptosystem instead of ElGamal discrete log cryptosystem, too? Stern 21:23, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- In my view yes. The gentleman should certainly be able to choose how to spell his own name, especially when the differences amongst the various versions is not likely to lead to confusion. ww 17:11, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- I disagree; clearly, if someone changes their name, the biography article should reflect that. However, if a widely used artifact is named after someone, and they subsequently change their name, we should then use the most widely-used version of the name of the system, whether or not that matches up with the person's new name. — Matt 17:18, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Agree with Matt. Have his biography at Taher Elgamal, but the system named after him should be at ElGamal encryption. —Lowellian (reply) 03:25, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
- It's mainly an issue in transliterating Arabic names to English. the "EL" prefix is an article equivalent to "the" in English, but usually is glued to the word it is associated to. In Egyptian Arabic it is "EL" and in the standard Arabic it is "AL". Sometimes in one's preference in transliterating his name he would highlight that the "EL" prefix is just an article and not part of the name. Sometime people even omit the "EL" prefix. All the following is valid and equivalent: El-gamal, El-Gamal, Al-gamal, Al-Gamal, Elgamal, ElGamal, Algamal, AlGamal. The way one chooses which one he prefers might change over time or be different in different contexts (Like in CV or a chat room or a paper). For the cryptosystem I think it must stay ElGamal because that's what it is in the literature. For the name itself (of this page) it would be up to his preference and certainly we can not decide for him, but I am not sure of how relevant it should be to his CV (whether we should take his CV as his "personal" preference or his "professional" preference. Mohammad Al-Aggan (talk) 01:04, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- Why is most of the article about the English orthography of the protagonist's surname, which, incidentally, means "the camel" in Arabic?
I think the matter is how this person himself writes its own name. Check its article at http://groups.csail.mit.edu/cis/crypto/classes/6.857/papers/elgamal.pdf. Although the name on the first page is full capitalized on the last page he refers a former article of his own: T. ElGamal, “A subexponential-time algorithm for computing discrete logarithms over GF(p2),” -- 2001:738:0:401:201:2EFF:FE02:F73A (talk) 08:16, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
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[edit]This article is dreadfully deficient, considering that this person is notable as the inventor of the security scheme the Web depends on. I am making this comment to remind me and others to do better. The most effectual Bob Cat (talk) 03:34, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
I just added 20+ references and a note about Dr. Elgamal's impact. I will add more later--Brain online (talk) 19:24, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
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