Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/Yesterday

WP:AFD/Y

Purge page cache if page isn't updating.

Recent AfDs: Today Yesterday

Media Organisations Biography Society Web Games Science Arts Places Indiscern. Not-Sorted

< October 11	October 13 >

Guide to deletion

Purge server cache

Robert Rosen (writer)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Cannot find much anything notable in google search. The current sourcing on article is shakey and not WP:RELIABLE as well. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 23:36, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 October 12. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 23:58, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors and New York. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 00:06, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Angus Ross (darts player)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

unnotable darts player, fails GNG. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 23:30, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Scotland. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 00:07, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Darts-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 00:19, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alex MacKinnon

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

unnotable darts player, fails GNG. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 23:29, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Canada. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 00:08, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Darts-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 00:18, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Albert Anstey

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

unnotable darts player, fails GNG. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 23:28, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Canada. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 00:08, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Darts-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 00:18, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alan Grant (darts player)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

unnotable darts player, fails GNG. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 23:27, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Australia. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 00:09, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Darts-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 00:18, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alan Caves

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

unnotable darts player, fails GNG. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 23:26, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and England. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 00:09, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Darts-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 00:18, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete He does not appear to meet the criteria for WP:ATHLETE, this article can be recreated if he ever meets that threshold. Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 00:21, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jennifer Terran

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Long-term concerns about notability, no chart success, very little in-depth coverage. An interview from 1997 was conducted by SoCal radio station KCRW[1] but interviews do not count toward notability. This UnCut album review from 2003 doesn't cover the artist's life or career; it just calls her an "independently-minded pianist-songwriter". The Sputnik page about Terran has no signed author. It appears to have been written by a family member. AllMusic's page about Terran does not have a signed prose review, indicating less notability. And none of Terran's albums have a signed prose review on AllMusic. The 2008 interview with Full Circle magazine cannot count toward notability; in any case it is a essentially a blog post published through Google's Blogger platform. Binksternet (talk) 23:16, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Binksternet (talk) 23:16, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and California. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 23:50, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No sources found for this singer, nothing in Gnewspapers, Gnews or a book search. I don't think she's gotten the critical notice we require. Oaktree b (talk) 00:22, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete:subject lack references to meet WP:GNG Tesleemah (talk) 05:22, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - The nominator nailed it, as the musician received some very basic media notice but nothing useful for encyclopedic purposes or our notability requirements. I also can find no confirmation for the claim about the Sunday Times in the article, which appears to be an exaggeration that spread across social media. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:48, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmation of Sunday Times listing here, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:33, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are these press quotes on her website:JENNIFER TERRAN PRESS QUOTES

"Endowed with a voice or heartbreaking purity and melodic talent, Jennifer Terran will most likely rise rapidly to the level of the greats."- TELARAMA (Paris, France)

FOUR STARS Jennifer Terran “THE MUSICIAN” — ROLLING STONE (Germany)

"Breathtaking... timeless... pure... monumental.... Categorizing Jennifer Terran is impossible. Terran is a style of her own." — OOR MAGAZINE (Netherlands)

"She speaks of the unspeakable, with great touch and skill in production, the arrangements and the songs. Jennifer Terran did show her nakedness on the beautiful pictures of 'The Musician', on 'Full Moon In 3' she is naked in the head of the listener. In my mind I give her a kiss." 5 STARS for 'FULL MOON IN 3' — HEAVEN MAGAZINE (Netherlands)

"The Musician is Terran's third album, but strangely enough it has the innocence of a debut. The compositions are fluent and playful, both rough and soft. Terran produced and mixed everything herself, but has succeeded in preventing that the spontaneity of her music was killed by perfectionism. At some point Tori Amos had that same gift, but in the meantime she has become a phenomena. Let's hope that Jennifer Terran will never become world famous." — PLATOMANIA (Netherlands)

"The music of Jennifer Terran is so beautiful it hurts."- CULTURE (Netherlands)

“Jennifer Terran has become an instrument so fine that it may cut you. All the Santa Barbara songwriter's albums have been honed to her exacting specifications of sensitivity and truth; now she has gestated a suite about motherhood, a subject than which no deeper exists. It goes right to the heart, and that hurts (good). It's real art, her best. Maybe the world can stand it.”(Terran’s: Born from the Womb of Silence) — METAL JAZZ.COM / GREG BURKE (USA)

"Not everybody can be both scary and vulnerable; Jennifer Terran can. The scary part is her voice, which spirals into regions so high you fear she'll disappear or crash, and lately it has acquired a diamond-dust edge that can saw through a stack of hearts, first of all her own." - LA WEEKLY (USA)

Top 10 records of the year"Terran is a breathtaking singer. Her vocal innuendos are pure, free of the mannerism of a lot of contemporary female colleagues."- FOCUS (Belgium)

"Pure, that was this concert in one word. No setlist, no décor, only a small lady, with a voice like a storm behind the piano" — STORYVILLE MAGAZINE (Netherlands)

"ALL OF you wondering whether Kate Bush is going to release another album, or if Tori Amos will ever make another record as good as her debut, can stop bothering with such side issues. Here's the album you've been waiting for.... I don't think there's a duff track. Her voice is staggering. And you've got to love someone who can yell out a full-on, Springsteenesque '1-2-3-4!' to announce the arrival of a violin."Terran's "The Musician"- #2 BEST ALBUM OF THE YEAR — THE TIMES

If these can be confirmed it should be enough for WP:GNG imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:39, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, sadly. The blurbs are passing mentions, not significant coverage. Bearian (talk) 09:03, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I assumed they were quotes rather than the whole coverage. Anyway hopefully this doesn't get closed before I can check them out, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 14:21, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep although I didn't find all of the sources listed on her website I did find significant coverage in a number of sources. Regarding the Sunday Times there was a review of her album The Musician in the Sunday Times where it was named cd of the week. This was published on 20 October 2002 but unfortunately it is paywalled so perhaps someone with access could check it out. The significant coverage I found was in the LA Weekly here, a music business magazine called Music and Media page 10 here, some album reviews here and here. There is quite a bit of coverage in German sources such as here,here,here,here,here,here,here,here,and here. Also coverage here. Together there is enough coverage for WP:GNG in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 19:23, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as a review of recently found sources would be helpful.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:32, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete not notable, no real reliable sources that cover this. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 23:37, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Laxmichya Paulanni

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Attempted redirect as there is no significant coverage that shows notability outside of unreliable sources, mentions, and general announcements. Created by blocked user and IPs (likely LOUTSOCKs) have objected to the redirect so here we are. CNMall41 (talk) 21:55, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and India. CNMall41 (talk) 21:55, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Gaatchora: not sure why there's no Adaptations/Remakes section there. Not opposed to deletion given the existing coverage, which allows verification: notable music director and notable cast. So very opposed to deletion. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:00, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The edit summary notes why it was removed. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:47, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Maharashtra-related deletion discussions. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:02, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Poor to unreliable sources with no significant coverage. Needs more than announcements and passing mentions to pass notability. Fails WP:N. RangersRus (talk) 14:49, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of programmes broadcast by Star Pravah: As above - source are routine marketing fluff, nothing significant post release from a good source Ravensfire (talk) 04:29, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Clearly consensus so far is to get rid of this article. However, there is no consensus yet on what to do with it - merge, delete, or redirect. Some additional discussion would be helpful.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla _{Ohhhhhh, no!} 21:58, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Andre Walker Hair Typing System

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Most of the sources are bad:

"Curlcentric" - looks to just be mostly trying to sell you something

"Women Health Info Blog" - is, well, a blog, one that looks to be by a "Prof. Dr. Gayane Dolyan Descornet" and seems to check out( maybe they deserve their own article? I see this so they've been around for a while) but is still basically just a self-published blog.(from my understanding we wouldn't cite a totally self published blog by Neil Degrasse Tyson on astromy related stuff afterall)

Oprah.com - Yea totally not a problematic source to have your boss promote your system

studio2121 - 404'd, but is regardless just literally an actual hair salon

this leaves the two podcasts and probably the strongest sources for the existence of this article being 99% Invisible and "The Stoop", haven't heard of the latter before, but it looks like something that could probably get its own article but just hasn't if it's press and awards page is to be believed

Anyway I'm basically arguing that everything but these two podcasts are bad sources, that leads into a bit of a more nebulous issue, that being that the system is basically considered bunk (yes, I know that a Reddit thread isn't the greatest of evidence, but I honestly don't know that much about this subject) or at least highly divisive on technical grounds (also supposedly racial grounds, but I don't really see it), and I only dived into this rabbithole because I saw this classification chart on the Hair article, and it just seemed so.....unscientific? I'm not sure, but I feel like this only exists as a page because someone attached to someone famous came up with it.

If this is successfully deleted, I'd also call for the nuking of Hair#Classification_systems for similar grounds, because unlike the main article that section isn't cited at all and neither is whatever the "FIA" system is. Akaibu (talk) 21:16, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. Akaibu (talk) 21:16, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mikheil Lomtadze

AfDs for this article:

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Procedural nomination per close at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2024 September 19. Please also refer to last two AfD's. Daniel (talk) 17:31, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This subject meets WP:GNG and WP:NBIO with WP:SIGCOV in Bloomberg News (2020, 2022, both available via The Wikipedia Library if you want to review), Forbes (authored by staff and thus reliable), Radio Tavisupleba (in Georgian), and Fortuna.ge (in Georgian). Most recently, there's SIGCOV of Lomtadze in BBC and Vedomosti on his purchase of the Wycombe Wanderers. I've also trimmed some of the fluff and added some of these sources to the article. It still needs more cleanup, and I would support protection on the page to address the history of COI/UPE editing -- but the sources show he meets the notability guideline. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:24, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- ~~The Forbes article is by "former staff". There's no reason to believe it had meaningful editorial oversight. —Cryptic 02:00, 27 September 2024 (UTC)~~ Never mind; the byline was changed after publication (what a rotten thing to do). Contemporary archive lists the author as staff. —Cryptic 02:03, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: As AfD1 closer, just stating I haven't had time or interest to review changes and support whatever conclusion emerges here. As I said in the DRV, it was probably time for a new discussion since much can change in two years. Star Mississippi 18:39, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Kazakhstan, and Georgia (country). WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:56, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The Forbes article presented above is more about the company than this person. The Bloomberg articles are mostly about this person, but more about the companies that lose money. I can only find a BBC article that he bought a football/soccer club, which is minimally about this person and more about the transaction and is mostly quotes [2] from the person. Oaktree b (talk) 22:36, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Did you look at the foreign language sources? And the Forbes source is definitely SIGCOV of Lomtadze. It's a long feature and he is discussed in at least half the paragraphs, and it includes numerous biographical details. Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:50, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm still leaning delete. This is a fundamentally, and I think irreparably, biased article about a person who's spent a considerable amount of money on PR (for example, the purchase of the minor-league football team mentioned above). A neutral article is perhaps possible. It wouldn't look anything like this. —Cryptic 02:10, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:PROMO. Notability is not the issue, although it appears borderline from the sources: the person is certainly rich enough to arrange for whatever ostensibly third-party coverage he wants. The issue is that, as noted in the DRV and in the last AfD, this article is an exercise in self-promotion, a product of undeclared paid editing, and in the face of such a campaign there is little chance of our article staying neutral. The current article should be deleted and recreated only after submission to AfC of a draft by an established editor with no ties to the subject; such a new article should also reflect any possibly (if not likely) unflattering aspects of this person's career. Sandstein 07:35, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It’s a strange reading of our guidelines to insist that a WP:BLP must include unflattering information. I’m sure said info exists (I added a Bloomberg story about a big hit to the guy’s net worth, and there’s nothing stopping other editors from finding and adding it), but to make the inclusion of negative information a prerequisite for having an article on a living person seems unsupported by policy. As for your requirement for AFC, the article was substantially edited by PaulW, a long established editor, and accepted at AFC by Dr Vulpes, another long established editor, which is indeed what triggered this discussion, which would seem to meet your condition. Dclemens1971 (talk) 11:33, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
BLPs are required to adhere closely to NPOV, and NPOV indicates that subjective and effusive praise is out of place in what purports to be encyclopedic content. An insistence that our content comply with NOT is not inconsistent with the biographies of living persons policy. Alpha3031 (t • c) 11:43, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Where is the effusive praise? I'm not seeing it. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:46, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Sandstein. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 15:26, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per the coverage provided by Dclemens1971, which establish notability. There may be some bias in the tone of the article but that can be removed via cleanup. I strongly disagree with Cryptic’s claim of this bias being irreperable.Frank Anchor 00:20, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per SIGCOV identified and further explanations by User:Dclemens1971. AFDISNOTCLEANUP also applies. gidonb (talk) 18:16, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Leaning keep per Dclemens1971 and Gidonb. I would give somewhat more weight to the BBC article, for whom this subject is the headliner. BD2412 T 03:19, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, asilvering (talk) 21:13, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I agree with Frank Anchor that any bias here is not irreperable and would add that deletion shouldn't be a substitute to improving an article anyway. The tone of the article doesn't impart any praise that I can see. I do agree that the Forbes source is moreso about the company than Lomtadze in specific, but with the two Bloomberg sources and the sources for his purchase of Wybcombe, I think there's just about enough here to meet WP:GNG. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)^{Talk to Me!} 14:04, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Mostly per Dclemens1971. After going through them sources, GNG is established clearly and can be seen to cross the SIGCOV threshold too. As mentioned by others above, the article got that promotional tone still now, but something that's can't be fixed with a little rewrite. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 14:37, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla _{Ohhhhhh, no!} 20:48, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rina Lipa

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

The subject fails to meet WP:GNG on their own merit and is only notable due to being the sister of a notable person, as evidenced by all available references primarily focusing on her relationship to her sister. And WP:INVALIDBIO explicitly state That person A has a relationship with well-known person B, such as being a spouse or child, is not a reason for a standalone article on A. Ckfasdf (talk) 15:06, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Women, Dance, and England. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 15:42, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: looks like a failure to perform a BEFORE. I'm finding substantial references that are about Rina, not her older sister (Vogue, Deadline). Also, the sources present are not primarily focusing on Rina's relationship with her sister, but instead mention it as a considerable detail. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:46, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's true that Vogue and Deadline have articles about Rina, but even the headlines in both pieces emphasize her relationship to Dua Lipa, which suggests that her notability is primarily tied to her sister. Ckfasdf (talk) 15:56, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Read past the headline, per WP:HEADLINES. There is SIGCOV of her as a fashion model and actor. ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:00, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The primary reason she received coverage is due to her relationship with Dua Lipa, as even Vogue pointed out by stating, She’s self-aware about the nepo-sibling thing. Also, the lead describes her as a model, actress, and dancer, this means the article should also meet WP:ARTIST and WP:NMODEL requirements, both of which she falls short of meeting. Ckfasdf (talk) 01:25, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, it’s enough if she meets GNG, which she does. A subject meeting GNG does NOT have to meet particular requirements of SNGs. That would be absurd. The articles (some on the page and plenty more available online) mention her sister but focus on her and constitute significant coverage addressing Rina directly and in depth, in reliable media outlets, which is precisely what is required. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:10, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect to Dua Lipa. There isn't much coverage of her as someone other than Dua's sister. Frost 15:47, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: given the existing coverage; a redirect to Dua Lipa#Early life is totally warranted anyway. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:48, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fashion and Albania. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:54, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Kosovo-related deletion discussions. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:08, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: per arguments presented above. -AlexBachmann (talk) 23:10, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I stumbled upon this article as I was deleting articles created by a sockpuppet of Asphonixm but I see the article is being improved and is the subject of this discussion. But if it wasn't being worked on, it would likely be eligible for a CSD G5. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:18, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Liz: If we compare the state of the article since it was last edited by the sock and after the involvement of multiple editors, I do not see any substantial edits made on the article. The changes made so far seem to include removal of maintenance tags, fixing minor errors like references, paraphrasing sentences, switching "British" to "English", and adding categories—none of which amount to substantial content contributions. Therefore, Asphonixm's sock remains the major contributor. Ckfasdf (talk) 05:50, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am the one who added sources to the page (yesterday, I think) and I am sorry but it was a significant change. I did it to prove she meets GNG. Who is the "major contributor" is not what matters, what matters is whether there is/are (a) "significantly edit"(s) by other user(s). -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:31, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm surprised to see Liz suggest CSD 5 eligibility extended until recently in the face of demonstrative notability and involvement of other editors (myself included) well before the sock was caught. Mushy Yank has made such substantial edits in the last 48 hours that I wonder if Ckfasdf believes that a sock only needs to be a majority contributor for CSD 5, rather than the only major contributor. ~ Pbritti (talk) 11:04, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, but I don’t think Liz suggested eligibility extended; quite the opposite, I would say (Liz clearly indicates the page is being improved), and her note is just for information, to prevent any CSD nomination, or at least to make things clear. Best, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:21, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My mistake, I didn’t notice Mushi Yank’s edits in the last 48 hours. However, on 28th September, I did suggest CSD G5 because that sock puppet was the main contributor, and it's worth noting that this sock puppet is notorious for creating biography articles. Pbritti disagreed, which is why we now have this AfD. My stance remains unchanged: she is only known because of her sister, as evidenced by all the sources that prominently mention her sister in both the headlines and the content. Ckfasdf (talk) 03:16, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry if my comments were unclear. I had deleted some other articles created by this sock but decided this one was not eligible due to the contributions of other editors to the content creation which wasn't the case with their other articles. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:18, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 20:42, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 20:44, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Leslie Controls

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:NCORP. None of the references here or in a WP:BEFORE hold up to WP:ORGCRIT. CNMall41 (talk) 20:41, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies and Florida. Shellwood (talk) 20:48, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies and Florida. CNMall41 (talk) 20:54, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I didn't know about independent sources when I created this, but I have other ways to find these sources now that I didn't know about then. And there have been major changes since this was nominated. There is potential.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:00, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Vchimpanzee:,Thanks for sharing. I will take another look if you can provide the sources you feel meet WP:ORGCRIT. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:18, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I found some sources that you probably can't access, but you can see there may be better sources now. A Google search at least got me a bunch of sources about the bankruptcy and I chose the best. I hope they all passed muster. One was The Wall Street Journal but I was only able to see part of the article. It was the important part. After that I tried ProQuest with the information that I had sourced to the company's own web site.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:30, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. What I am asking is if you can point out the specific sources that meet the criteria found in WP:ORGCRIT? The ones you found doing those searches? I have access to a lot but cannot find any that do. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:41, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stengle, Bernice (November 26, 1987). "Full Steam Ahead: Leslie Controls makes valves to keep ships moving and whistles blowing". St. Petersburg Times. p. 12B.

"Leslie Controls seeks bankruptcy for asbestos claims". non-paywalled copy on Business Insurance. July 12, 2020. Retrieved October 9, 2024 – via Bloomberg News.

Stengle, Bernice (February 20, 1989). "Workers sell Leslie Controls to raise capital and shed debt". St. Petersburg Times. p. 19.

Doss, Kristina (October 29, 2010). "Circor's Leslie Controls Wins Bankruptcy Court Approval Of Plan". The Wall Street Journal. Retrieved October 9, 2024.

Kahn, Fareha (April 28, 2011). "Circor's unit emerges from bankruptcy protection". Reuters. Retrieved October 9, 2024.

The last two you should be able to access, although much of the Wall Street Journal source is not accessible to me unless I can find some way to do it through the library. I forgot to do that this morning when I was there.

And if you're not satisfied with these for any reason, I don't know what to say. I've heard people object to coverage in a local paper but the amount of detail seems to be sufficient. I'm hoping ProQuest or other sources can help me with some of the details that came from the company's web site.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:55, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.newspapers.com/image/528085231/?match=1&clipping_id=156901759 This looks better and mentions an award. I found another article but it feels like a press release and at this point I don't think it will help.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:57, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For the reference "Workers sell Leslie Controls to raise..." I searched archives and cannot locate the reference. I searched by title, author, company name, and even went to the specific date and page number and there is nothing on that page similar to what is cited. Can you provide a link to where you accessed it?--CNMall41 (talk) 22:53, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you don't mind that I added the links. I do not like to change anyone's comments but think they would be better inline as opposed to me duplicating everything. I also found this which may explain why there was a reference in New Jersey (the last one you cited above that mentions an award) and outside of Florida. Although I am not sure the award contributes towards notability. I am still looking deeper for more so voters can evaluate as a whole. --CNMall41 (talk) 23:08, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.proquest.com/docview/262637776/D0E8E0FD145D41C8PQ/1?accountid=14020&sourcetype=Newspapers The information with it makes a point of the fact it is in the city edition.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 16:46, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I went through the sources provided and also dug through Newspapers.com, Google News, Google Books again to see if I missed something. This seems to be the only reference that would meet WP:ORGCRIT in my opinion. There are a lot of mentions, routine announcements, employment advertisements, etc., but even these are all regional. I also searched more about its parent company (Circor International) and believe this may be notable. Outside of the coverage, it was publicly traded and even the bankruptcy sources for Leslie Controls is related to the parent (references I find on Circor state that the bankruptcy was to shield Ciror from asbestos litigation it was facing. So while I still do not believe Leslie meets the threshold, I am open to seeing if others would agree Circor is and if a merge into a new page for that company would be a good WP:ATD. --CNMall41 (talk) 23:40, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The only problem at this point is whether the sources are independent or from news sources that are not local. Nevertheless, I keep finding sources that to me establish notability. The statements made in these sources certainly made the company look notable whether or not anyone has done the kind of very specific coverage Wikipedia seems to be looking for. And there's too much detail now to make this part of Circor's article.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:35, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And I get that the company saying these details are significant is a problem but don't know how you determine that the company's accomplishments are significant. Newspapers or magazines might have said so many years ago. I can't paraphrase some of the more complicated scientific accomplishments but they certainly look important.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:58, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your point of view. The company seems important to me as well for what they have done. However, we need to look at WP:NCORP standards and I feel they fall short. The "too much detail" could be removed and it summarized in a paragraph under a page for Circor (assuming it is notable - I may wind up creating it anyway after doing so digging to determine if it is or not). At least for now it seems more notable than Leslie Controls. I think best to let others opine in this discussion about Leslie to determine their take on the references meeting WP:ORGCRIT. For the record, they are coverage quite a bit but mainly brief mentions or routine announcements. Regardless of the year, I feel there would be more WP:CORPDEPTH if they were found to be worthy of notice. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:31, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The "too much detail" though is what makes the company significant.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:38, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think that is disagreement here. The application of WP:NCORP. It is not about how much a company has accomplished, it is about what sources have said about those accomplishments. The [{WP:CORPDEPTH]] simply isn't here. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:49, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is enough depth here except the minute I saw the statement that each employee at the dinner received a history of the company, I knew they just repeated what was there. So the only issue is independent reporting on those fats which might have taken place earlier and we just can't find it.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 20:09, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not that it would help but I found this which explains the significance of Leslie train horns. That was the reason I created the article in the first place and someone took that out for some reason. The sources aren't what Wikipedia would call ideal, but I didn't know back then.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 20:20, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 20:44, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cradlepoint

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Scope creep previously PRODded this article, but it was procedurally dePRODded. The rationale was "Company article that fails WP:NCORP. References are routine business news. Fails WP:SIRS." Indeed, the coverage is routine and WP:ORGTRIV, and most of the sources are WP:TRADES. Janhrach (talk) 14:08, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Business, Companies, Computing, and Idaho. Janhrach (talk) 14:08, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I never saw it was deproded or I would have sent it to Afd. It fails WP:NCORP. scope_creep^Talk 14:55, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete nn business. Refs are regular PR stuff --Altenmann >talk 19:51, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - their products are used by NORAD, the NYC Board of Elections, and other agencies. Bearian (talk) 09:19, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect (or delete). There are a fair number of articles in trade publications but I don't see anything beyond the routine mentions and brief announcements. Nothing that would come close to NCORP. Could potentially be redirected to Ericsson, but I don't really mind too much either way. Alpha3031 (t • c) 10:52, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:10, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Ericsson - it is a subsidiary of that company as of now, and is the best candidate for it to be redirected to. I'm fine with deletion, too. UserMemer (chat) Tribs 22:21, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Victoria Park Presbyterian Church

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

I believe that this church has not existed for a good number of years. I was told that the property at 2712 Victoria Park Avenue had been sold. It is currently the location of Christ Emmanuel Community Church. Google Street View shows this church's signage prominently displayed on the building as long ago as May 2009. PeterR2 (talk) 19:55, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations and Christianity. PeterR2 (talk) 19:55, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:25, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep. No valid deletion rationale has been offered. Instead we have an WP:OUTOFBUSINESS argument. Notability once gained cannot be lost. This church may not have been notable to begin with (the nominator gives no indication of a WP:BEFORE) but even if it’s not, no policy-based rationale to delete has been advanced. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:01, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - There does not appear to be a church by this name in Canada. Article has no sourcing whatsoever. The only church I find by that name, is in Australia. — Maile (talk) 02:00, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hanuman Media

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

I am not persuaded that this passes WP:NCORP 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 19:42, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film, Business, and India. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 19:42, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies and Telangana. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 01:06, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bologna Violenta

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Sources on page consist of databases and a self-authored piece, so no notability there. The artist's Italian-language article doesn't seem to offer anything better. I was able to find this article which appears to be primarily about the artist, and these two which I think are only passing mentions (hard to tell because I can't read Italian). If those are indeed just passing mentions, then it appears we've only got one valuable source, and notability isn't met. I wouldn't be surprised if there's more to be found, especially in Italy-specific archives that I don't have access to, but as is this does not meet our standards. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 19:23, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Italy. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 19:23, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Quite renowned Italian indie band (I'm Italian), and as such there's some coverage. This is an interview to the band on one of the biggest Italian art magazines, while this is an interview on an Italian online music magazine. This is a short biography on another Italian online music magazine. --cyclopia ^speak! 16:01, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:Cyclopia - the interviews are not considered independent sources, although both give some good info prior to the interview text. Admittedly, indie band sources are difficult to find, but could you search for more mainstream references? Google search from the US isn't good for Italian sources. Lamona (talk) 16:15, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Seconding on the interviews. They can be a gray area (see WP:INTERVIEW), but in this case where they're presented as straight Q&As, with the writers barely contributing to the actual text and just transcribing what the band says, it should be treated as a primary source. That any coverage exists is a good sign generally, but these don't contribute to notability directly. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 17:16, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 19:23, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I searched for one of the albums in conjunction with recensione, and found loads of reviews, such as [3] [4] [5] [6]. I am not familiar with the landscape of the Italian music press, but am willing to trust that some or many of them are reliable. (I also declined to mention several sites that looked like blogs.) Geschichte (talk) 05:31, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shahzaib Rind

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

I draftified this BLP on a non-notable athlete because I believe it doesn't meet the WP:N. Then the creator of the BLP submitted the draft for review, which I declined, but it was still moved to the main NS. I don’t think it meets GNG or even WP:ATHLETE, thus AFD'd it. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 17:54, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 17:54, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Martial arts. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:13, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as the subject has received WP:DIVERSE coverage and the article also passes WP:GNG. The subject is a national champion in Wushu. By his own admittance, Saqib is once again WP:GAMING the system. Mister Banker (talk) 22:58, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It’s interesting that you’re familiar with the policies, especially for someone with fewer than 50 edits. I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re a sock of a UPE. In any case, could you show how the subject meets the GNG? --— Saqib (talk I contribs) 05:31, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your feedback. The subject does meet the WP:GNG criteria as shown by the extensive coverage in multiple independent and reliable sources, including Dawn News https://www.dawn.com/news/1779610/shahzaib-rind-becomes-pakistans-first-world-champion-in-karate-combat-event, Islamabad Scene https://islamabadscene.com/shahzaib-rind-becomes-pakistans-first-ever-karate-combat-sports-champion/, and his profile on ONE Championship https://www.onefc.com/athletes/shahzaib-rindh/. These sources document his national championships and international recognition as a combat sports champion. 58.27.212.244 (talk) 08:31, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Not a notable fighter. Does not meet WP:NMMA, sources are mainly database / promotional profile pieces or interviews which don't help notability. WP:TOOSOON for this fighter. Ravensfire (talk) 00:50, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Search him on Karate Combat. Gul Butt (talk) 00:16, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Non-notable athlete. Completely fails notability for martial artists and lacks significant coverage doesn't pass WP:GNG. Lekkha Moun (talk) 16:31, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Search him on Karate Combat. Gul Butt (talk) 00:16, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Just click on news search.--Gul Butt (talk) 00:19, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

— Gul Butt (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Keep Shahzaib Rind is a notable athlete in the field of Wushu and Martial Arts. He is a three-time National Wushu Champion of Pakistan and the first-ever Pakistani to win a Karate Combat World Championship. His achievements include a gold medal in the 3-Nations International Wushu Championship (2016), a silver medal at the South Asian Games (2019), and participation in international events like ONE Championship. He has been covered by reliable sources such as:

1. ONE Championship Profile - Shahzaib Rind https://www.onefc.com/athletes/shahzaib-rindh/

2. Khilari.com Profile - Shahzaib Rind https://www.khilari.com.pk/news/1163/shahzaib-rindh-reigning-west-asia-kickboxing-featherweight-champion

3. Islamabad Scene - First-Ever Pakistani Karate Combat Champion https://islamabadscene.com/shahzaib-rind-becomes-pakistans-first-ever-karate-combat-sports-champion/

4. Dawn News - Shahzaib Rind’s Karate Combat Championship https://www.dawn.com/news/1779610/shahzaib-rind-becomes-pakistans-first-world-champion-in-karate-combat-event

5. Khilari - Shahzaib Rind’s Silver Medal at South Asian Games https://www.khilari.com.pk/news/1157/shahzaib-rindh-settles-for-silver-in-south-asian-games

These references establish Shahzaib’s notability as an athlete with significant national and international recognition. 58.27.212.244 (talk) 05:35, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

58.27.212.244, you can only cast ONE bolded vote, not 3 or 4. I've struck your duplicate votes. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:20, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

58.27.212.244, Most sources aren't even reliable, with dawn.com being the only exception; however, it only name-checks the subject and clearly fails to meet GNG. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:55, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ I understand the concern about source reliability. However, in addition to Dawn News, there are other reliable sources documenting Shahzaib Rind’s career:

1. Islamabad Scene: A reputable news website covering sports and events in Pakistan. Their article discusses Shahzaib’s achievements, including his status as the first-ever Pakistani Karate Combat World Champion. [Scene Article]

2. ONE Championship: A globally recognized MMA promotion that tracks fighter profiles and event outcomes. [Championship Profile]

3. Khilari.com: A dedicated sports news website that tracks national and international combat sports. They have covered Shahzaib’s participation in the South Asian Games, West Asia Championship, and his national-level accomplishments. [Profile]

These sources provide extensive coverage of his achievements and establish his notability in the combat sports domain. Please let me know if additional references are needed. 58.27.212.244 (talk) 11:17, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid you don't seem to understand what reliable sources are. Please take some time to familiarize yourself with WP:RS. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 16:22, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IP - your link to Khilari.com is not helpful and looks like you're trying to fake a source. Ravensfire (talk) 01:15, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ I appreciate the concern about source reliability and notability. The following sources meet the requirements set by WP:GNG and WP:RS for establishing Shahzaib Rind’s notability as an athlete. They provide significant, independent, and reliable coverage of his career and achievements:

1. Samaa TV: A reputable national news outlet in Pakistan that extensively covers significant sports and societal events. The article highlights Shahzaib’s recognition and rewards after his MMA victory against India, establishing his prominence and impact. [7]

2. Associated Press of Pakistan (APP): APP is a government-run news agency known for factual reporting. Several APP articles cover Shahzaib’s meetings with government officials and recognitions, which indicates that his achievements are notable at the provincial and national levels.

- [8]

- [9]

- [10]

3. Aaj News: A respected news network in Pakistan that has covered Shahzaib’s arrival at the General Headquarters (GHQ) alongside notable figures such as Amir Khan, demonstrating his national prominence. [11]

4. Pakistan Today: This source reports on his meeting with provincial leaders and his recognition, establishing his influence within sports and government circles. [12]

5. Radio Pakistan: Being a state-run media source, its coverage of Shahzaib's achievements (e.g., winning world karate championships) indicates national recognition. Articles from Radio Pakistan highlight his success on multiple occasions:

- [13]

- [14]

6. Dawn News: One of Pakistan’s leading news publications, known for high editorial standards. The coverage on Shahzaib’s achievements, including his victory at the Karate Combat Championship, provides significant independent coverage:

- [15]

- [16]

7. BBC Urdu: Coverage by an international, independent news agency like BBC establishes his global notability and influence in martial arts. [17]

8. Geo News: Another major national news outlet that covered his recognition and achievements. [18]

9. The News International: An established newspaper with a wide readership. They covered his world championship win and other accomplishments:

- [19]

- [20]

10. Nation News: They have documented his multiple victories and recognitions, further establishing notability:

- [21]

- [22]

11. UrduPoint: A reliable source for sports news in Pakistan. They cover Shahzaib’s achievements and recognitions, showcasing his impact on Pakistani martial arts:

- [23]

12. ARY News: A leading national broadcaster covering Shahzaib’s achievements, including his international victories. [24]

13. Dunya News: Dunya’s video reports provide a detailed account of Shahzaib’s career highlights and recognitions:

- [25]

- [26]

Each of these sources provides independent coverage and has a reputation for fact-checking and accurate reporting, satisfying Wikipedia’s WP:RS criteria. Their collective documentation of Shahzaib’s career and recognitions demonstrate his significance and notability in the combat sports domain.

Please let me know if there are additional sources or further information required to satisfy all concerns. 58.27.212.244 (talk) 04:24, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate the sources you provided, but I’m still not convinced. The coverage appears to be routine and doesn't meet the significance criteria you mentioned. While every athlete gets some level of coverage, that alone doesn’t mean they pass the WP:N test, which requires meeting either WP:ATHLETE or GNG. Also, if you have any COI, please disclose it. It's concerning when an IP consistently tries to keep an article on a relatively ROTM athlete. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 08:58, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ Thank you for your feedback. I want to clarify why the sources provided are not routine and meet the WP:GNG and WP:ATHLETE guidelines:

1. Significant Coverage: The sources do not merely document event participation but discuss Shahzaib’s career trajectory, achievements, and influence in detail. For example:

- Dawn News and BBC Urdu have published feature articles discussing Shahzaib’s impact on martial arts in Pakistan and his journey to becoming the first-ever Pakistani to win a world Karate Combat title, which is a significant accomplishment.

- Associated Press of Pakistan (APP) and Samaa TV report on his multiple recognitions and rewards, including job offers and financial support from provincial governments, showing institutional recognition.

2. Meets WP:ATHLETE: Under WP:ATHLETE, notability is achieved if an athlete has competed in a fully professional league or has been the subject of significant national or international attention.

- Shahzaib has competed at the South Asian Games, ONE Championship, and Karate Combat—each of which qualifies as a professional and highly competitive event.

- His victory in the world Karate Combat Championship brought him international recognition, as documented by multiple reliable sources.

3. Addressing COI Concerns: I want to confirm that I am participating to improve the article based on reliable sources and Wikipedia's guidelines. I have no personal or professional conflict of interest. My goal is to ensure that notable athletes from underrepresented regions, like KPK, Balochistan, Punjab and Sindh receive appropriate coverage on Wikipedia.

Given the above points, I believe Shahzaib’s notability is well established based on significant, independent, and reliable sources. 58.27.212.244 (talk) 10:24, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BLUDGEONING — Saqib (talk I contribs) 11:26, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the reminder regarding WP:BLUDGEONING. My intention is not to overwhelm the discussion but to ensure that all relevant facts are presented clearly. I appreciate the feedback and will make sure to keep responses concise and focused on addressing any unresolved concerns. I’m happy to step back and let others weigh in if needed. 58.27.212.244 (talk) 11:41, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, this is a clear case of WP:SIGCOV for this article. Crosji (talk) 11:43, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 19:14, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gaziosmanpaşaspor

AfDs for this article:

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Tagged in 2016 as possibly not notable and the Turkish article is also tagged as unsourced. Chidgk1 (talk) 19:11, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Football and Turkey. Chidgk1 (talk) 19:11, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oops had forgotten I nominated this last month and it was closed as keep. I have added a cite as suggested but it needs more. If you guys are convinced it is notable please could you remove the notability tag and close this discussion thanks Chidgk1 (talk) 19:21, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:19, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - this was kept at AfD last month and so I imagine the outcome will be the same again. It would be nice if someone could locate some WP:SIGCOV, though. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:20, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep, the AFD system is not for quick rematches, and the nominator has acknowledged so. Geschichte (talk) 19:37, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep - nothing has changed since the last, very recent AFD which ended with a clear 'keep' consensus. Nomination is lazy and concerning, literally the edit directly before this re-nomination was the closure of the last AFD, so Chidgk1 has clearly not checked the article history as is required by WP:BEFORE. An explanation is required. Giant Snowman 19:38, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep – Per above. Svartner (talk) 01:20, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep: It's been less than a month since the last AfD. No apparent WP:BEFORE. Aintabli (talk) 05:16, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Martin Kabrhel

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

I have been unable to find significant coverage of this poker player outside of the stories about his alleged cheating and the alleged investigation into it. The stories from PokerNews are all routine coverage of his winnings/participation in tournaments. Being a high-roller is insufficient to establish notability. voorts (talk/contributions) 17:06, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Games, Europe, Austria, and Czech Republic. voorts (talk/contributions) 17:06, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The most successful and best known Czech poker player with appearance in mainstream TV shows (more here). I quickly found sources like 1, 2 and 3, and I'm sure there will be more (and not only on the Internet). FromCzech (talk) 18:17, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: The sources provided by FromCzech are interviews and profiles which are far from WP:GNG. I thought the stories of the person's participation in tournaments comply with notability guidelines, as long as it exclusively focuses on the subject and is not an interview (see here for example). ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:09, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The first source on pokerarena is not interview or profile. The source no. 3 also is not interview or profile. Source no 1. has some coverage of him next to the interview. Forbes may be a profile, but it is reliable independent source. Other source I just found is pokerman. FromCzech (talk) 04:37, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - one of the most notable active European tournament poker players, with 3 WSOP bracelets, and a handful of well-documented controversial moments. Officially Mr X (talk) 18:38, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I agree that being a high-roller doesn't alone merit inclusion but if you are a high roller there's plenty good chances you've won some major tournaments - just as in this case. PsychoticIncall (talk) 14:01, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Winning tournaments also doesn't establish notability. Dozens of people get bracelets every year. Most of them recieve coverage only in online poker news. This guy has a little coverage outside of poker news for an alleged cheating scandal that seems to have been quietly dropped or forgetten about. voorts (talk/contributions) 14:43, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 18:52, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Western Armenia Government in Exile

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

This is a non-notable entity. The article contains not a single third party source establishing its notability. It a small group of individuals who set up a website. Wikipedia should not be promoting non-notable groups with little to none relevance. --Երևանցի ^talk 09:51, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Armenia-related deletion discussions. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 10:24, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:35, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm.. looks like I found 60 seemingly ok sources that seem to be OK. 59 if you strike out Artsakh Public TV (which is clearly talking about football), and 58 if you remove Newinfo. [possibly 57 or 56, i forgot if I had crossed out Facebook and ARMINFOCENTER already or not...]

Google Search Query: "արևմտյան հայաստանի հանրապետության" -site:"www.parliament-wa.info/" -site:"parliament-wa.info/" -site:"https://citizenship-western-armenia.info/" -site:"western-armenia.eu" -"Western Armenia TV"

The source providers for the Armenian search: Israelahayer, Nt.am, mamul.am, Lousavor Avedis Hraparak, hhtert.am, asekose.am, Keghart, iravunk.com, A1Plus, Factor.am, Anews.am, Aravot, Radio YAN, iravunk on YouTube and Noyan Tapan on YouTube.

Now then, none of these sources are used in the article.

Also, I even question whether or not these are actual reliable sources, or if this even says a word about notability.

Still gonna bring that one up though.

Pressenza also allowed the Consul(ate) of Western Armenia in Argentina covers the Origin of the Republic of Western Armenia, an article on how Artsakh is legally part of the Republic of Western Armenia (actually, this source can fit into the article. didnt even know about it until now. gonna add it rq.), "The Hour of Dignity", and a Commemoration of the Armenian Genocide. Other than that that seems to be it.

I wonder if that makes Western Armenia available for notability? Kxeon (talk) 15:57, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep per rationale listed above by Kxeon. There is a plethora of sources online about this topic. It surpasses WP:N guidelines. It is a prominent political entity within the Armenian Diaspora, specifically representing Armenians in Turkey. Archives908 (talk) 16:36, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No reliable source listed. ----Երևանցի ^talk 18:18, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Have you even read the article? Please review the sources section. In addition, a simple google search yielded 117,000,000 results. Archives908 (talk) 18:41, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My goodness! 117 MILLION?!? Keep, but because I'm not sure how many of these are actually about Western Armenia and how many are just about Armenia, it's not Strong. Kxeon (talk) 22:11, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep but rename Republic of Western Armenia still substantial enough within scholarly sourcing. Ecpiandy (talk) 18:08, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What scholarly sourcing? ----Երևանցի ^talk 18:18, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, this article has one relevant source ([27]), and it's not even about the subject here, but the tv channel. At any rate, this article is a WP:TNT job, see also Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 191#RfC: micronation infoboxes. CMD (talk) 07:19, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Personal attack removed)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 14:30, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and possibly merge with Western Armenia or Wilsonian Armenia articles This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 22:23, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and improve. 142.189.211.50 (talk) 14:11, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 18:46, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Simon Crosby

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:BIO. scope_creep^Talk 08:35, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators and Businesspeople. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:37, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Significant coverage for this person exists. Wired [28], The Register [29], eWeek [30], Computerwoche [31], InfoWorld [32], CRN [33], TechTarget [34], Csoonline.com [35] Frost 16:33, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Computing, South Africa, and England. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:24, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Almost everyone of these references are interviews of one sort or another and can't be used to prove notability. Gbooks is probably the best bet for establishing it. There is a couple of profiles there that are no good either. scope_creep^Talk 07:33, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I agree, these sources don't establish GNG notability, and subject is nowhere near WP:NPROF. Qflib (talk) 13:56, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 12:39, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I disagree that most of the references given above are interviews; they are articles that partially quote him, but that is rather common for articles about a person. I find the Wired, the Register, Infoworld and CRN to be independent, and together they demonstrate notability. None provides a true biography, so hopefully that will come along in the future giving us more personal, rather than just professional, information. Lamona (talk) 22:33, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Question. Would a redirect to Bromium be a good alternative to deletion? It looks like most of the coverage is more of Bromium than of Crosby. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 11:48, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete -claims on the page are not verifiable; he didn’t create any software- “along with other Cambridge alumni including Simon Crosby and founding CEO Nick Gault created XenSource Inc. to turn Xen into a competitive enterprise product.” Bearian (talk) 09:23, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 18:39, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: The references are troubling. They appear to be written as fan-pieces. The closest I can get to NPROL is that he was once a "tenured professor at Cambridge" but I am not persuaded that is a verification of notability. A high profile individual, yes. Made high profile by PR, yes. Notable in a Wikipedia sense, no. WP:BIO failure 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:46, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vidya Vathi

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

No reliable sources. Sakshi source doesn't seem to mention her. Not sure if meets WP:NACTOR because the three films that she played lead roles in do not have sources or Wikipedia articles. DareshMohan (talk) 18:01, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Women, and Andhra Pradesh. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:08, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Karin Van Der Laag

AfDs for this article:

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Previously deleted (WP:Articles for deletion/Karin Van Der Laag) and I don't think the new article addresses the notability concerns. I also don't see articles about the subject since the previous AfD that would add to coverage such to satisfy N. Bobby Cohn (talk) 16:02, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and South Africa. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:10, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 16:55, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
keep "Best Actress" award makes her notable. --Altenmann >talk 19:33, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
From South African Film and Television Awards. Per WP:ANYBIO is that a well-known and significant award or honor? Bobby Cohn (talk) 21:35, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would say Yes. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:51, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I think she meets both WP:NACTOR (at least 2 significant roles in notable productions) and WP:ANYBIO with her award. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:56, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I'm not convinced a SAFTA award is sufficient for ANYBIO, and anyway per N the topic still needs to have received SIGCOV in multiple IRS sources. That she has had no identifiable coverage for her SAFTA win is another indicator it is not a significant enough award for ANYBIO. JoelleJay (talk) 18:08, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I believe that the subject (and the creating editor, who are the same person) deserve better than what may appear from the previous opinions to be a lack of consensus. My feeling is that more policy based opinions are required one way or the other.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 17:56, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Allen Knight

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Virtually all sources are local, with some sections being plain unsourced. A google search didn't find anything about him specifically, with some showing more notable people with his name. Additionally, the article was created by Greghenderson2006, who was banned partially for using hyperlocal sources to make articles which weren't notable. As a result, I think this should be deleted. Tavantius (talk) 17:41, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Politicians, and California. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 17:46, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect >>> List of mayors of Carmel-by-the-Sea, California. Djflem (talk) 17:57, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Nothing about this article persuades me that Knight passes WP:BIO. Another hyperlocal history by the creating editor with pro sourcing. Carmel City Council does not pass WP:NPOLITICIAN 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:50, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails WP:BASIC]] and WP:ANYBIO. That his wife donated his boat models to a museum does not confer notability on the subject per NARTIST. As Timtrent points out, fails NPOLITICIAN as well. The sourcing consists of hyper-local coverage, or to books from questionable/unreliable publishers; many discussions have taken place on article talk pages and discussion boards about Arcadia Pub "Images of America" series which consists of pictures and photo captions; they are not serious historical studies, they are published for the tourist trade. The Valley Press (Santa Cruz) seems to be self-published by a local Carmel booster, another unreliable reference per discussions. This article is one of a garden variety of articles on a non-notable local Carmel subject from the "Carmelopedia". Netherzone (talk) 20:03, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kyra Belan

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

WP:BLP of an artist, not properly referenced as having any strong claim to passing WP:NARTIST. The attempted notability claim here is that her art has been exhibited, which is not an automatic notability freebie in and of itself -- notability on that basis doesn't derive from the list of gallery shows, it derives from the use of reliable source coverage and analysis about the gallery shows, such as reviews of her shows by professional art critics in newspapers or magazines or books to establish that the shows were seen as significant by somebody other than her own public relations agent. But this is referenced entirely to sources self-published by Belan herself and/or the affiliated galleries, with absolutely not one reliable or GNG-building source shown at all.
I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody with much better access than I've got to archived US media coverage can find more than I've been able to, but nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to be referenced considerably better than this. Bearcat (talk) 17:33, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Artists and United States of America. Bearcat (talk) 17:33, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Women, and Politics. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 17:44, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - The nomination is detailed and accurate. In an online BEFORE search, I was unable to verify any of the museum permanent collections except for what her resume says on her own website. Mostly what I found while searching was user-submitted content or things she had written herself or blog/social media mentions. No reviews in notable art publications that would be expected of a notable artist, and most of the exhibition venues are pay-to-play. The subject of the article does not meet GNG, NARTIST, nor ANYBIO. Netherzone (talk) 18:03, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. Netherzone (talk) 18:06, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ancient TL

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Article PRODded with reason "Non-notable journal. Not indexed in any selective databases, no independent sources. Does not meet WP:NJournals or WP:GNG." Article dePRODded with reason "Remove deletion tag, I explain the reasoning a separate message. It does not mean that the article cannot be improved". PROD reason still stands, hence: delete. Randykitty (talk) 17:26, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academic journals-related deletion discussions. Randykitty (talk) 17:26, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Archaeology, France, Switzerland, England, Wales, Missouri, and North Carolina. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 17:33, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I am a little bit lost here, what does PROD reason means? Why citations do not count or is there something I overlooked? Sorry, I just try to provide sufficient evidence to retain the journal, but I need to know what is actually required. Besides, I suggest putting this at least on hold because the journal has currently got a new editor (this is not me) and will move to a new publication platform (https://www.soap2.ch/) with all the old articles properly tagged with DOI. GeoGammaMorphologe (talk) 18:10, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To avoid the deletion of the entry for Ancient TL (ATL) from Wikipedia.com, I am providing evidence of the journal's relevance. First, a little bit of background: Ancient TL is the open-source and free-of-charge luminescence and electron-spin resonance dating community journal. The journal is run by volunteers from the academic community. The few articles published yearly are mainly of technical (such as conversion factors) nature of relevance to the experts in the field. Beyond, the journal publishes abstracts about completed theses in the field (source: http://ancienttl.org). The publications have no DOI (yet), and the journal needs to be indexed, which is related to the low number of publications yearly. Given the following evidence, The journal is of utmost relevance to the scientific community.

According to Google Scholar, used in combination with the software Harzing's Publish or Perish (8.16.4748.9050 (2024.10.10.1451) (please double-check using those tools) the journal has received >12250 total citations in peer-reviewed journals with an average of 260 citations per year.
The currently three most highly cited papers are: (1) G Adamiec, MJ Aitken (1998): 1701 citations, (2) G Guérin, N Mercier, G Adamiec (2011): 1276 citations, (3) S Kreutzer, C Schmidt, MC Fuchs, M Dietze, M Fischer, ... (2012): 345 citations
The journal has an ISSN and is listed in https://search.worldcat.org/title/85448412?oclcNum=85448412
The journal is also listed in https://zdb-katalog.de/list.xhtml?asc=false&t=Ancient+TL
The journal is listed in university library systems, such as Heidelberg University: https://katalog.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/cgi-bin/search.cgi?query=band%3Auw67801411&sess=b23f1762df67e79fdf73cfc0308ccf83&vr=1&mark=&spell=
The journal is frequently cited by high-impact and listed journals. A few examples:
Nature communications: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-51546-9 (three articles from Ancient TL cited in the context of the technical part of the luminescence dating; supplement)
Scientific reports: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-69913-3 (six times cited in the supplement regarding the luminescence dating: -> Supplementary Information 2)
Science: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.ade4248 (five times in the supplement regarding the luminescence dating -> Anc. TL)
Geochronology: https://gchron.copernicus.org/preprints/gchron-2024-19/ (four times, paper currently in open discussion)
Quaternary Geochronology: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1871101424001067 (two times)
... please extend this list by randomly picking a recent international publication with luminescence/ESR ages that went through a proper peer-review (I guess not all have cited articles from Ancient TL, but most certainly).

@RandyKitty if this is not enough evidence, I may ask to provide actual arguments why the given evidence is not sufficient. Thank you! GeoGammaMorphologe (talk) 21:01, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clare Dimyon

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

There's only one article (After Ellen) that is significant coverage of Clare Dimyon. The MBE is the UK's lowest state honour, with hundreds awarded every year. There are simply too many of them being awarded to make anyone who receives them notable Ynsfial (talk) 16:17, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Women, and United Kingdom. Ynsfial (talk) 16:17, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 17:28, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Estonia, Latvia, Russia, and Slovakia. Bridget (talk) 19:18, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SugarGh0st RAT

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:GNG. All the references are not reliable. Ibjaja055 (talk) 16:11, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 17:20, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 17:35, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rajan Shahi

AfDs for this article:

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:SIGCOV and notable sources, more like paid pr page. Suspected creation by sockpuppet. Imsaneikigai (talk) 16:05, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and India. Shellwood (talk) 17:20, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Delhi-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 17:27, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IGlue

AfDs for this article:

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Not notable. OXYLYPSE (talk) 15:11, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies, Websites, and Hungary. Shellwood (talk) 15:27, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lisa Marie Scott

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Nothing besides the Playboy 1995 pictorial itself and a couple of primary sources. Tagged for lack of sources almost fifteen years ago, at a time when articles were posted up rather nonchalantly. -The Gnome (talk) 14:37, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Well, the Playboy link is gone. Even if we assume it was substantial, that's all there is for sourcing. I can't find anything about this individual. Adult Film Base and her website aren't useful for sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 14:52, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:08, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and Florida. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 17:27, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television, Japan, California, Hawaii, and Virginia. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 17:37, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Amala Shaji

AfDs for this article:

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

non notable internet personality.Lacks substantial coverage in independent reliable sources to meet WP:GNG. TheWikiholic (talk) 14:26, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. TheWikiholic (talk) 14:26, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and India. Shellwood (talk) 15:07, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Internet and Kerala. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 17:38, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A. P. Unnikrishnan

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG TheWikiholic (talk) 14:17, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. TheWikiholic (talk) 14:17, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians and Kerala. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:20, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Najma Thabsheera

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG TheWikiholic (talk) 14:16, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. TheWikiholic (talk) 14:16, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians, Women, Law, and Kerala. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:20, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

M. A. Mohammed Jamal

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Subject fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG TheWikiholic (talk) 14:14, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. TheWikiholic (talk) 14:14, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Kerala-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:19, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Manaf (Lorry Udama Manaf)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

A non notable Internet personality who falls short of WP:GNG and WP:BASIC. He seems to be related to a notable event but per WP:NOTINHERITED that doesn’t count. TheWikiholic (talk) 14:04, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Internet, and Kerala. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:18, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ayisha Abdul Basith

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:SINGER and WP:GNG. TheWikiholic (talk) 13:46, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Women, Internet, United Arab Emirates, and Kerala. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:04, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cobra (game engine)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

I waited a few days to see if more reliable secondary sources surfaced, but they have not. This article is currently sourced to about 60% primary sources, including numerous interviews and out-right guest blog posts done by the company itself. All of the secondary sources I could find fall into two categories: 1) A passing mention that "Game X uses Frontier's in-house engine", and 2) Elite Dangerous happened to generate a star system almost identical to one that NASA later actually discovered. (The latter 5 sources all fall into this).

I cannot otherwise find any in-depth independent coverage of the engine. See the talk page for an earlier analysis plus an additional one just now.

Fails WP:GNG. I'd cite failing WP:NPRODUCT, but Cobra isn't actually sold per se so I'm not sure it'd apply. -- ferret (talk) 13:43, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. -- ferret (talk) 13:43, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Per nom. Notability is not inherited or "granted up" and I could not find any independent coverage of the engine itself. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)^{Talk to Me!} 14:21, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: This article about the Cobra engine has over 13 credible references such as PC Gamer, Polygon, Yahoo, Mashable, Kotaku, Game Developer, MCV, Ars Technica, BusinessWeekly, and gamedev.net. These are reliable sources. Furthermore the engine itself is historically very significant at having powered over 16+ world famous games. It is also the only game engine that simulates the Milky Way galaxy with a 1:1 scale in Elite Dangerous. It's not a very famous engine, because only Frontier Developments uses it. However, it's popular enough that it's been covered for years and praised such as that Cobra's Stellar Forge system had a star system similar to Trappist-1 before NASA discovered it. Trappist-1 was added thereafter. -Artanisen (talk) 16:30, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You can't simply ignore the source analysis that I've already provided on the talk page. For example, Mashable and one of the MCV articles are both written by Frontier, making them primary sources. The other MCV article is an interview, making it non-independent. I've addressed the rest of the sources on the talk page as well and why they don't contribute to the topic's notability. -- ferret (talk) 16:34, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're neglecting the reasons and credible sources that have been provided for why an article about the Cobra engine should be kept. There are less noteworthy game engines that are also on Wikipedia. It has sufficient independent sources as well. The games that are powered by Cobra use systems of this engine which are mentioned in more articles without explicitly saying Cobra. Wikipedia has articles with only 1 or 2 references. - Artanisen (talk) 16:36, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Frontier Developments. The mentions of Cobra in the non-primary references are trivial enough that I would consider them to increase the notability of Frontier or Elite Dangerous, but not the Cobra engine. That being said, I think there's enough secondary sources mentioning Cobra to have a short section in the parent article. With regards to the above keep argument, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. ~ A412 ^talk! 22:12, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

El castillo de los monstruos (1964 film)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

No claims of notability. Only sources are IMDB and a site in Czech. It's been suggested this is a hoax. Deletion was contested. Secretlondon (talk) 13:38, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Secretlondon (talk) 13:38, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Argentina-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 13:52, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Thanks for nominating, I proposed deletion a few months ago due to there being an obvious verification issue. I don't think it is an intended hoax, but it's obvious that 1958 is the real year and film.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:55, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chicoo

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

No google hits for the item or its references. No claim of importance. Previously rejected as a speedy but this looks like a hoax. Secretlondon (talk) 13:05, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. Secretlondon (talk) 13:05, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've put db-hoax on it, the references are characters from The Office... Reywas92^Talk 16:01, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 17:41, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Bbb23, I don't see anything at WP:DP, WP:AFD, or WP:CSD that says a speedy deletion tag should not be added during an AFD. I've done it before, and I don't care if this vandalism page has been around since 2008, it's obviously a hoax created on April Fools Day and should be speedy deleted rather than waste anyone else's time for this to "play out". Reywas92^Talk 20:57, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and add it to Wikipedia:List of hoaxes on Wikipedia Ratnahastin (talk) 05:19, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Milorad Savić

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

He spent most of his career in the second tier in Serbia and my own Serbian Cyrillic searches have found nothing that would indicate that he meets WP:SPORTBASIC. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:59, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Serbia. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:59, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:16, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 14:48, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 01:24, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marko Ristić (footballer, born 1997)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Despite playing 15 minutes at the top level in Serbia, I am unable to locate any instances of significant coverage when searching in Serbian Cyrillic. No evidence of WP:SPORTBASIC. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:56, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Serbia. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:56, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:16, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 14:48, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - little to no coverage in reliable sources whatsoever. UserMemer (chat) Tribs 22:09, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 01:23, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ivan Plazinić

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

His career consists of 1 minute in the league and 2 minutes in the cup. My own Serbian searches yielded absolutely no evidence of being able to pass WP:SPORTBASIC. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:50, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Serbia. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:51, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:16, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 14:48, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete, makes no claim to notability or significance. Geschichte (talk) 17:13, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 01:22, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Spring Financial

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Run-of-the-mill predatory/payday lender. "Reviews" are indiscriminate WP:SPIP with no meaningful content. Wikipedia is not the place to host brochures. No indication of any independent coverage, in-depth in reliable sources, in fact there's barely anything beyond the SPIP and the routine "I got predatory loaned to" that all of these have, which, while sad, are not great sources for encyclopedic content. Alpha3031 (t • c) 11:58, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Finance, Companies, and Canada. Alpha3031 (t • c) 11:58, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Not really meeting CORP. There's the Global News article about someone that wasn't happy with their loan, and this [36] where someone with the company talks about their work model... Not really sigcov in either case. Rest are all PR links. Oaktree b (talk) 15:36, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Not eligible for soft deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 12:46, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Night Begins to Shine (Teen Titans Go!)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

No evidence of notability for these episodes together, better covered at main articles Indagate (talk) 09:29, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Comics and animation and Entertainment. Indagate (talk) 09:29, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:34, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Sources seem to show this is notable enough. https://www.cbr.com/teen-titans-go-ber-night-begins-shine/ ; https://www.wbur.org/npr/545906301/an-accidental-hit-begins-to-shine-and-only-because-of-teen-titans-go ; https://www.dcplanet.fr/220502-decouvrez-funko-pop-teen-titans-go-version-the-night-begins-to-shine ; https://tvsourcemagazine.com/2020/07/review-teen-titans-go-the-night-begins-to-shine-2/ ; https://meiobit.com/371129/jovens-titas-the-night-begins-to-shine-cancao-incluida-em-biblioteca-virou-um-sucesso-entre-os-fas-warner-capitalizando-em-cima/ ;https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/08/the-fall-out-boy-music-video-for-teen-titans-go-redeems-that-horrible-ghostbusters-song/ etc -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:29, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Lets take a look:
1. CBR: WP:VALNET
2. WBUR: Local NPR affiliate, pretty plot based but does have some COV. if its SIG? meh
3. DCPlanet: Seems to be nothing more than a Funko pop annoucenemnt. I also question the relability of such a source.
4. TVSource Magazine: pretty good but once again questionable source.
5. Meiobit: Questionable reliability but otherwise okay.
6. Konatku: 3 surface level paragraphs.
In conclusion Weak Keep or redirect to List of Teen Titans Go! episodes Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 03:21, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 10:59, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect: to the episode list as suggested. Apart from the NPR link, the rest aren't helpful. Oaktree b (talk) 14:58, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ray Carver

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

non-notable darts player All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 08:31, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and New Hampshire. Shellwood (talk) 10:07, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Darts-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 00:21, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Illinois and Maryland. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 01:02, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Darren Johnson (darts player)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

non-notable darts player All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 08:27, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and England. Shellwood (talk) 10:08, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: There is only one source and one external link referenced in the entire article, and both lead to a "404 Not Found" error. JustARandomEditor123 (talk) 11:01, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Darts-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 00:19, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Damian Mol

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

non-notable darts player. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 08:26, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Netherlands. Shellwood (talk) 10:07, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The article fails WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:SIGCOV. JustARandomEditor123 (talk) 11:10, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Darts-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 00:19, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aeroflot Flight A-53

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Per WP:GNG and WP:EVENTCRIT: There exists no reliable independent (significant) news coverage of the event, no secondary sources, no in-depth coverage, no (sustained) continued coverage, no demonstrated lasting effects nor long-term impacts on a significant region of the world that would make this event notable enough for a stand-alone article. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 07:27, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, Aviation, Transportation, and Turkmenistan. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 07:27, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
keep Invalid nomination. 23 people killed is a notable event in my books. There are at least 3 sources cited which have no dependence on Aeroflot whatsoever. Of course a catastrophe in a Somewherestan aint no global reverberation, but it did make impact and consequences. Keeping in mind it was in 1975 in the Soviet Union, where such kind of information was thoroughly suppressed, it is importnt to keep it in Wikipedia. --Altenmann >talk 20:30, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Other than the death count, can you find evidence to support the event's notability? Going through the sources listed, Airdisaster.ru is considered unreliable per this discussion; ASN relies on Airdisaster.ru which makes its information most likely unreliable; per this discussion, Russianplanes.net is also considered unreliable which just leaves B3A, however, per WP:GNG, "Moreover, not all coverage in reliable sources constitutes evidence of notability for the purposes of article creation; for example, directories and databases [...] are all examples of coverage that may not actually support notability when examined [...]," which makes all sources listed mostly non-contributory to the event's notability.

but it did make impact and consequences

Can you prove that it did have lasting impacts and consequences? I understand that coverage in the USSR was suppressed but a standalone article relies on the existence of significant in-depth coverage in reliable sources, which for the most part has been lacking. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 08:16, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are kidding me: four independent sources with detailed coverage not enough? Two dozen dead people is no consequence? --Altenmann >talk 16:15, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They may all be independent but are they reliable? The simple answer is no, per the discussions above. A single database entry, B3A, is not enough to establish notability (additionally, the entry does not contain in-depth analysis of the accident). Obviously what happened is tragic, nobody is denying that, but per WP:LASTING, "events are often considered to be notable if they act as a precedent or catalyst for something else. [...] Events that have a noted and sourced permanent effect of historical significance are likely to be notable." This accident does not demonstrate historical significance, despite the number of casualties. Additionally, as already stated above, the event does not pass the general notability guideline since the event lacks significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 16:32, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, colleague, there is not "A single database entry", but four references with very detailed descriptions, like, here. You are probably looking at a wrong article. --Altenmann >talk 16:43, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am looking at the correct article.

To reiterate, per this discussion, the consensus seems to be that Airdisasters.ru is a self-published user-generated website with shady editorial oversight, which, combined with a lack of sources for its information, makes the website unreliable. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 17:02, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"this discusison" of two uneducated persons does not impress me as authoritative. --Altenmann >talk 17:52, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
First of all, no personal attacks against others, and second of all, this is the current consensus, if you disagree, you can always reopen a discussion at the noticeboard to challenge it. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 18:01, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Aeroflot accidents and incidents in the 1970s. ~~Accident is sufficiently covered there~~; not notable enough for its own article. Meltdown627 (talk) 15:56, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Terribly ugly list, with narrow text column unreadable on mobile devices. It is good for summaries, bot not for storing full info. "Sufficiently covered" is a joke essentially meaning "who cares". --Altenmann >talk 16:13, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Why would a summary of a non-notable event need to contain all information about it? In my opinion, the summary at the linked article contains a sufficient amount of information. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 17:54, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Loaded question: who says it is non-notable? --Altenmann >talk 18:05, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  What I meant to say was, assuming that the article isn't kept, either being deleted or redirected, why would would it need to contain all information about it? As said above, in my opinion, the summary at Aeroflot accidents and incidents in the 1970s seems to contain the strict necessary. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 04:52, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Aeroflot accidents and incidents in the 1970s per Meltdown627. This is a WP:News article without any meaningful coverage to meet notability requirements. There's nothing about fatal accidents that makes them inherently notable. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 02:39, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. An airline accident killing 23 people is clearly notable. Also passes WP:GNG. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:44, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Notability is not solely inherited because of the casualty count and there's no clear rationale as to why the event passes WP:GNG. For the most part, a topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources which this event lacks. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:44, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 07:58, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Aeroflot accidents and incidents in the 1970s as per Meltdown627 and Thebiguglyalien, as the topic fails the notability requirements to warrant its own article. JustARandomEditor123 (talk) 10:58, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Aeroflot accidents and incidents in the 1970s: Fails WP:GNG. All four sources in the article are database entries and do not represent enduring coverage. While it is possible that Russian-language sources exist, English-language coverage appears to be non-existent - I could find nothing in Newspapers.com or TWL sources. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)^{Talk to Me!} 14:33, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect: to the list of crashes in the 1970s. It was due to bad weather, which is somewhat normal for airplane crashes. This wasn't a terrorist incident and I don't see that any laws were changed after, so I'm not sure there is lasting notability. Rather routine airplane accident. Oaktree b (talk) 15:01, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Odo Island

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Non-notable fictional place. Maybe could be merged into the Monsterverse article. –DMartin 07:48, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. –DMartin 07:48, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Actually, if something would be merged, I'd say that you could merge it into Godzilla (1954 film) since thats where it was first introduced as. GojiraFan1954 (talk) 08:13, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Merging to Monsterverse would not make sense, as this is not a location that is part of that franchise. I don't think there is really anything to merge here, but a Redirect would probably be a good idea. Possibly to Godzilla (1954 film) as suggested above, as that is the first of the two movies where it actually played any kind of role in the plot. Rorshacma (talk) 16:37, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Agree with Rorshacma. Should be redirected either with Godzilla (1954 film) or Godzilla (franchise) (since it shows up in other films besides '54). This article has no significant importance to warrant its existence. Armegon (talk) 17:48, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Godzilla (franchise) per above, no significant information findable in reliable sources. UserMemer (chat) Tribs 22:17, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ferdinand Oliver Porsche

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Lacking in sources and no indication of claimed entrepreneurship. Sits on Porsche and Volkswagen boards, most likely due to his family connections as the great-grandson of Ferdinand Porsche. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:32, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Austria, and Germany. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 08:34, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Clarityfiend is not wrong in their assessment, but then again: Lukas Walton, Ben duPont, Victoria B. Mars, Susan Alice Buffett, ... --bender235 (talk) 21:41, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a valid keep reason. I'll probably get around to nominating those other people too. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:48, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Update. Starting with Mars and Buffett. Clarityfiend (talk) 12:04, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete No significant coverage of the author to meet [WP:GNG]Tesleemah (talk)06:16, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for lack of significant coverage: a passing mention in one news article about the board changes does not count. The other source is classic PR fluff. Bearian (talk) 09:33, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting, can we get a source review?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:27, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Darius Yuen

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

BLP of a successful businessman and philanthropist lacking in depth independent coverage. Non-notable awards, Forbes and routine coverage of career moves. Does not seem notable. Mccapra (talk) 07:24, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and Hong Kong. Mccapra (talk) 07:24, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete a reasonable search for sources turns up nothing substantial. Yes, he got a 1-paragraph mention in a Forbes Asia list, but I can't see how WP:BLP is met, and no other applicable category Oblivy (talk) 09:37, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria, which says:
People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.
- If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
Sources
1. Tam, Wai-yun 譚蕙芸 (2010-10-25). "金融猛人海嘯「橫財」打貧" [Financial Tycoon Tsunami: 'Windfall' to Fight Poverty.]. Ming Pao (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2010-10-28. Retrieved 2024-10-08 – via Yahoo! News.
  The article notes: "跳槽前，阮勵欣已是政券界猛人，在法國巴黎銀行任亞洲部主管，曾參與蒙牛、比亞迪、百盛、長城汽車上市活動。後來貝爾斯登與中信證券達成合作協議，邀請他任亞洲部主管，他認為新工作更有挑戰，於是在2008年2月辭職，詎料一個月後新公司股價暴跌，3月14日他在休假時，收到一個震撼的電話。"
  From Google Translate: "Before the jump, Darius Yuen was already a strongman in the political and securities industry, working as head of Asia at BNP Paribas and participating in the listing activities of Mong Kok, BYD, Parkson and Great Wall Motors. Bear Stearns later reached a cooperation agreement with CITIC Securities, inviting him to be head of Asia. He found the new job more challenging, so he resigned in February 2008. He expected the new company's share price to plummet a month later On leave, I received a shocking phone call."
  The article notes: "他鑽研外國經驗，發現了一種名為「創投慈善」（Venture Philanthropy）的社會服務模式，就是按商業邏輯發掘有潛質的社會服務，替他們籌集資金，提供營運意見。如果阮勵欣以前做的是IPO，發掘有潛質的新公司替它們上市，他現在就是推廣SPO（Social Purpose Organization），找尋有社會效益的機構來投資。他的慈善機構名為「心苗」，至今已贊助了數項在亞洲的社會服務。在上海，他們投放了50萬元人民幣，支持一個為建築物料是否符合環保準則作評級的網站；在南亞，他們正研發一部太陽能電腦，讓學生在偏遠村落也可上網學習。"
  From Google Translate: "He drilled into foreign experience and discovered a social service model called Venture Philanthropy, which is to discover potential social services according to business logic, raise funds for them, and provide operational advice. If Darius Yuen used to do IPOs and discover potential new companies to list them, he is now promoting SPOs (Social Purpose Organizations) and looking for socially beneficial institutions to invest in. His charity, called Heart Seedlings, has sponsored several social services in Asia. In Shanghai, they have invested RMB 500,000 to support a website that rates whether buildings are expected to meet environmental criteria, and in South Asia, they are developing a solar-powered computer that will allow students to learn online in remote villages."
2. "一周出差四次兩年未踏九龍" [Four Business Trips in a Week: Two Years Without Setting Foot in Kowloon]. Ming Pao (in Chinese). 2010-10-25. Archived from the original on 2010-10-28. Retrieved 2024-10-08 – via Yahoo! News.
  The article notes: "阮勵欣做了18年投資銀行，他的職業生涯可以用「瘋狂」來形容﹕早上6時半起床，看《華爾街日報》、《金融時報》，午餐晚餐都要見客，其餘時間與各國股市同步呼吸，幸運的話深夜12時可以休息，但間中也會不眠不休2至3天。"
  From Google Translate: "Darius Yuen has been an investment banker for 18 years. His career can be described as "crazy": he gets up at 6:30 in the morning, reads the "Wall Street Journal" and "Financial Times", meets guests for lunch and dinner, and does the rest. Time breathes in sync with the stock markets of various countries. If he was lucky, he would rest at 12 o'clock in the middle of the night, but sometimes he would not sleep for 2 to 3 days."
  The article notes: "阮勵欣9歲離開香港到洛杉磯讀書，在南加州大學會計系畢業後不久，就做銀行家。18年來只關心財經，記者問，香港對你來說是什麼？"
  From Google Translate: "Darius Yuen left Hong Kong at the age of 9 to study in Los Angeles. Shortly after graduating from the accounting department of the University of Southern California, she worked as a banker. In the past 18 years, you have only cared about finance. The reporter asked, what does Hong Kong mean to you?"
3. Tan, Choe Choe (2022-02-14). "After Hong Kong, Sow Asia founder wants to help spur impact investing in Malaysia". The Edge. Archived from the original on 2024-10-08. Retrieved 2024-10-08.
  The article notes: "In 2008, Darius Yuen founded Sow Asia, a Hong Kong-based charitable foundation that has been supporting early-stage social enterprises intent on scaling their social or environmental impact. ... For the remarkable work he did with Sow Asia — which is still going strong — Yuen was honoured as one of Forbes’ Heroes of Philanthropy in 2011, when he was 41. More than a decade after that, success stories such as HK Recycles Ltd, which provides convenient recycling solutions for offices, schools and retail stores, alongside employment to autistic youths, keep him going. ... Yuen, who is managing director and responsible officer of Zhong Yi Investment Managers Ltd, an asset management company that he founded in July 2018 ..."
4. Lam, Lana (2011-08-07). "Happiness is sharing your ideas with others". The South China Morning Post. Archived from the original on 2024-10-08. Retrieved 2024-10-08.
  The article notes: "Another speaker was venture philanthropist Darius Yuen Lai-yan, 41, a former investment banker with 18 years' experience who turned his back on making millions to give back to the community. He spoke of a 'red line' as the point where we make enough money for our basic needs and then everything above that was simply accumulation of desirables not necessities. Yuen established the Sow (Asia) Foundation which provides seed capital for sustainable projects with a focus on environmental awareness and education in design, construction and manufacturing on the mainland."
5. Waller, Martin (2010-01-21). "Will Kraft's feel for Cadbury clear 2012 hurdle?". The Times. Archived from the original on 2024-10-08. Retrieved 2024-10-08.
  The article notes: "We last came across Darius Yuen when he was about to move from the relatively unscarred BNP Paribas to the doomed Bear Stearns to become head of the equity capital markets group in Asia. Yuen, after “a shift in his own values”, according to his website, tells me that he has now set up the SOW (Asia) Foundation, a Hong Kong-registered charity investing in social entrepreneurs. The first investment is in the producers of a much-needed rating system for building materials in China, which tells architects or whoever how green they are. So proving that some good can emerge out of almost any disaster imaginable."
6. Articles about him resigning from BNP Paribas Capital Asia Pacific to join Bear Stearns in 2008:
  1. Gopalan, Nisha (2008-03-18). "New Bear Hire Has Bad Timing". The Wall Street Journal. ProQuest 2648659969. Archived from the original on 2024-07-24. Retrieved 2024-10-08.
    The article notes: "Hong Kong banker Darius Yuen must be ruing the day he left BNP Paribas after 14 years with the France investment bank and a Hong Kong brokerage house it once acquired. The former co-head of equity capital markets for Asia at BNP Paribas is on leave before taking a similar post at Bear Stearns at the end of May. The announcement of his new job came out Friday in Asia-hours before word of Bear's financial woes began to spread on Wall Street. The idea was that Mr. Yuen eventually would become head of equity capital markets at the Asia joint venture that Bear and China's Citic Securities signed in October."
  2. "Bear Hires New Asia Markets Executive". The New York Times. Reuters. 2008-03-14. ProQuest 2222392115.
    The article notes: "Bear Stearns has hired Darius Yuen from the French bank BNP Paribas to head its equity capital markets group in Asia, a spokeswoman told Reuters on Friday. ... Mr. Yuen will join in May and report to John Moore, who was named Bear’s Asia chief executive in August. He will assume the title of senior managing director and head of equity capital markets for Asia, according to a company spokeswoman, Jessie Hsieh. Mr. Yuen’s background in equity capital markets shows that Bear is eager to seize a greater underwriting presence in the region after initial public offerings surged in China last year. ... Mr. Yuen had been with BNP Paribas and its predecessor, Peregrine Investment, for 14 years, responsible recently for the bank’s ECM franchise in Asia, according to FinanceAsia, which reported the appointment."
  3. Waller, Martin (2008-03-15). "Let us all raise a glass to Darius Yuen - City Diary". The Times. Archived from the original on 2024-10-08. Retrieved 2024-10-08.
    The article notes: "While we are on the subject, let us all raise a glass to Darius Yuen, who until now worked for BNP Paribus in Hong Kong."
  4. "法巴資深賓架過檔貝爾斯登" [Senior Executive at Societe Generale Moves to Bear Stearns]. Hong Kong Economic Times (in Chinese). 2008-03-13. p. A16.
    The article notes: "洋名Darius的阮勵欣，在法巴投資行融資部門任職9年，是次跳槽不知是否參與貝爾斯登和中信證券共同在亞洲大展拳腳的計劃有關。不過老杜聽聞，Darius仍需過冷河3個月後才可上任。早前他與愛妻共同開設一間現代畫廊，相信今次終於可以靜下來，一改投行家忙得團團轉的顛倒生活，與太座共同打理心頭好一段日子。"
    From Google Translate: "Yuen Lai-han, whose foreign name is Darius, has worked in the financing department of BNP Paribas Investment Bank for nine years. It is unknown whether his job change is related to Bear Stearns and CITIC Securities' plan to jointly expand their presence in Asia. However, Lao Du heard that Darius still needs to cross the cold river for three months before taking office. Earlier, he and his beloved wife jointly opened a modern gallery. He believes that this time he can finally calm down, change the busy and upside-down life of an investment banker, and take care of his heart together with his wife for a while."
  5. Bei, Hu (2008-03-12). "Yuen Quits as BNP Asia Equity Capital Markets Co-Head". Bloomberg News. Archived from the original on 2024-10-08. Retrieved 2024-10-08.
    The article notes: "Darius Yuen quit as regional co-head of equity capital markets at BNP Paribas Capital Asia Pacific Ltd., the Asian corporate finance unit of BNP Paribas SA, becoming the latest former Peregrine Investment Holdings Ltd. banker to quit the firm. Yuen, 39, left the French bank last week ..."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Darius Yuen to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 09:56, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the sources found by Cunard. 1.47.210.41 (talk) 17:06, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. Could we get a further review of these sources?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:23, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment thanks for finding these but IMV they are not in depth coverage. They are a mix of routine sector coverage of who’s been hired and fired, and PR profiles. Mccapra (talk) 08:58, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kodai Enomoto

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Obviously fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT, with his 1 cup and 1 league game. No significant and independent coverage, including in ja:wiki. Geschichte (talk) 07:13, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Japan. Shellwood (talk) 10:11, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The nominator has sufficient rationale for the deletion of the article, as it clearly fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. JustARandomEditor123 (talk) 11:04, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:12, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 14:46, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Izumi Miyata

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Failure of WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played 232 minutes in Japan's third league. No significant and independent coverage, including in ja:wiki. Geschichte (talk) 07:13, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Japan. Shellwood (talk) 10:12, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:12, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 14:47, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tomohisa Yoshida

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

No indication of meeting WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played 3 times in Japan's second league, the rest in amateur tiers. No significant and independent coverage, including in ja:wiki. Geschichte (talk) 07:13, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Japan. Shellwood (talk) 10:12, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:12, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 14:47, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tsubasa Suzuki

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Not close to meeting WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. No significant and independent coverage, including in ja:wiki. Creator is globally locked. Geschichte (talk) 07:14, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Japan. Shellwood (talk) 10:12, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:12, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 14:47, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - right now, not enough coverage in reliable sources to be included in the encyclopedia. UserMemer (chat) Tribs 22:30, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Taishin Morikawa

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Failure of WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played 8 times in Japan's third league. No significant and independent coverage, including in ja:wiki. Creator is globally locked. Geschichte (talk) 07:14, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Japan. Shellwood (talk) 10:13, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:11, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 14:47, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yusuke Tanahashi

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Very far from meeting WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played 68 minutes in Japan' second league. No significant and independent coverage, including in ja:wiki. Geschichte (talk) 07:15, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Japan. Shellwood (talk) 10:13, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:16, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 14:47, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nic Barlage

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

I don't think that this victim of refbombing is notable. All refs seem to be run-of -the mill stuff which are fundamenbtally about his jobs rather than about him. TheLongTone (talk) 14:02, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: FYI, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe Cronin (basketball). Joe Cronin, another high-ranking NBA official, his article was AfD'd and the result was keep. - BeFriendlyGoodSir (talk) 21:56, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@BeFriendlyGoodSir: that's an WP:OTHER argument which is roundly and rightfully ignored by experienced editors and admins in AfDs. The best way to defend this article would be to provide quotes demonstrating significant coverage of this article subject from high-quality sources. Usually WP:THREE would be ideal. Left guide (talk) 04:29, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. I only mention it because someone in that AfD made the argument that "WP:COMMONSENSE must prevail". Mr. Barlage is one of the highest ranking front office officials for a team in the NBA, a top basketball league in the world. He argued that it's "a case where WP:IAR should apply". I don't know the validity of that argument but thought i should point it out. I see a Forbes article with Barlage in it. As for quotes, I will leave that to others. Keep or Delete. You guys decide. - BeFriendlyGoodSir (talk) 05:26, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, that Forbes piece is authored by a staff writer, so should pass the reliability test. However, most of what's in that source is discussion about the Cavaliers or interview quotes from Barlage's mouth, neither of which contribute to notability. It seems to fall short as far as secondary SIGCOV that directly discusses Barlage as an individual person; the best I could extract from that source is the following:

Barlage, entering his second season as CEO, wants to change that. He has a five-year plan that includes an international component in South America.

Left guide (talk) 06:02, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BeFriendlyGoodSir is the creator of the contested article.

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:11, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Basketball, Arizona, Minnesota, North Carolina, and Ohio. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 16:32, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I'm not sure on my vote yet. But I would say Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe Cronin (basketball) is not particularly applicable given the differences in their roles. Both are high-level positions, but an NBA general manager and a head of business operations differ greatly in terms of coverage and notoriety. Because GMs are ultimately in charge and making decisions regarding the team's on-court performance, they and their actions (drafting, signing/cutting players and making trades) and are much more widely covered (and scrutinized) than handling the day to day operations of the organization (such as marketing, ticket sales, adding premium seating, etc.). Best, GPL93 (talk) 15:28, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:Articles for deletion/Joe Cronin (basketball) is certainly not applicable because that's based on WP:OTHER. The only thing that matters here is whether there's enough significant coverage directly about this article subject from independent secondary reliable sources. Left guide (talk) 22:38, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would say any full-time NBA GM (although maybe not interim) is likely notable, so could see some people correlating that to any person at the same organizational level if they don't fully understand the difference between the front-facing nature of the GM position against the others. Best, GPL93 (talk) 17:23, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails WP:GNG as there is little WP:RS significant coverage and there is no other inclusionary criteria met. Best, GPL93 (talk) 17:23, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla _{Ohhhhhh, no!} 22:08, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I disagree that this fails WP:GNG. I think that there is enough significant coverage. 1,2,3 help to demonstrate this coverage. GoldMiner24 ^Talk 01:51, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Two of your three sources due nothing for the WP:GNG. The first one is a podcast interview, the second is a press release. He's going to need more than that to meet GNG. Esolo5002 (talk) 06:42, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The second source is the parent organization of his employer, and the third one is the university he attended; neither of those are fully independent of the article subject. Left guide (talk) 03:19, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep I think there's enough here. The Cleveland news stations, Cleveland.com and Cleveland Magazine should be independent enough. The news organizations decided that Barlage was worth reporting about. We can argue whether the content represents a significant amount of coverage, but personally, I'm satisfied. There's enough to build a reasonably informative article. The business leader of an NBA franchise is indeed an important role, and arguably more significant for the ongoing cultural impact of the team than any cup of coffee G-League call-up. Zagalejo (talk) 19:49, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A "cup of coffee G Leaguer" likely has had SIGCOV going back to at least college, in addition to during his professional career and almost certainly has additional features done when signed to the NBA team. As for "cultural impact", I'm really not so sure as he essentially runs the arena prices and advertising because not actually the CEO of the Cavs themselves, but of the parent company. It looks like his current duties don't have really any impact on the on-court product. Best, GPL93 (talk) 12:06, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete since the sources deployed to support notabolity are cumulatively weak enough to not constitute an acceptable foundation for an independent article. We are often impressed with corporate titles and titles are, oftentimes, awarded indeed to amplify a position's importance. He's a top manager; that is all. Not some creative force as the text makes him out to be, provided we pay close attention to the sources per se.

Forensics, amidst the avalanche of proffered links: A tsunami of typical, simple, obligatory announcements (here, here, here, and again here, more here, some more here, oh you want more, here's more and we're done, though there's plenty more; this NBA listing of every NBA executive, including our subject; come fawning text advertorial-wannabe such as this pap, ("Barlage is proud of how the renovated Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse served downtown", etc) in the Cleveland Magazine; as if the first tsunami was not catastrophic enough for the article's case, we are hit by another, this one of articles about the Cleveland Cavaliers but not about our subject, articles such as this, this, this, this, this, but you get the general idea; a PR press release about the Jeff Ubben Posse Fellows Program ("mentorship opportunities for high-achieving college students"), in which our subject is mentioned as one of the program's many hosts; a report on a youth center's renovation financially supported by the NBA, the Cleveland Cavaliers, and Kaiser Permanente, in which our subject is name dropped; then, more announcements, e.g. here; and so on and so forth, fluff masquerading as substance. -The Gnome (talk) 11:21, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to chime in: your "fluff" link implies that the article is meant to be promotional, but I have no doubt that it was created in good faith. The creator frequently works on NBA articles, and the over citation was probably an attempt to overcome the article's draft status. (Also, please tone down the snark just a hair. Your arguments are fair, but your tone is unnecessary.) Zagalejo (talk) 18:36, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Barlage is not important?. I know WP:RSPYT but this was a Bally Sports interview. And there's this. He seems to garner their respect, no? He is a recent hire...Of course we don't have a WP:CRYSTALBALL but do not need it. His importance is implied from day 1. - BeFriendlyGoodSir (talk) 23:16, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Both links shared are interviews, so have no bearing on notability. Best, GPL93 (talk) 02:47, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you claiming WP:TOOSOON? I would not be surprised if Barlage met your notability requirements in the next year or so and Volunteer time would be wasted and at that point nobody will bother recreating the article. So be it. - BeFriendlyGoodSir (talk) 16:58, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, I'm saying notability requirements are not met and I'm not sure they will be in the future. Best, GPL93 (talk) 17:22, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 06:53, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nightmare Theater

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fairly new article about a non-notable TV show; created by a new editor. No sources; no formatting. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 16:45, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and Utah. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 16:45, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This was one of Utah's longest running television shows and was very popular. I will be updating sources. As for formatting I will learn and improve the page. Intergalacticlanguage (talk) 17:09, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I haven't been able to dig up much. There is Television Horror Movie Hosts 68 Vampires, Mad Scientists and Other Denizens of the Late-Night Airwaves Examined and Interviewed that covers the show, but there is no preview available. There's also a whole self-published book The Complete Index to Salt Lake City's Nightmare Theatre which would probably be decent for information, but doesn't contribute to notability. There's this dramatic piece from the Utah Education Network that says someone hanged themselves after watching the program. Other than that, it's just passing mentions like one of my favorite things to do was to curl up with my dad on a Friday night and watch the famed horror movie show starring Sammy Terry (a play on the word cemetery), “Nightmare Theater.” The low-budget series was just scary enough to capture my interest, but not so scary that DCFS needed to be alerted. I'm leaning delete, but I'm willing to wait to see what sources come up. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:31, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I meant to include this note. Fischer
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:10, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, consider redirecting title to Sammy Terry If you want to write about a local TV program, you need the sourcing to back up your claim. You also need to show that it has some enduring notability to it. I do not think that the Salt Lake program has that, after doing a search that would have included Utah newspapers from the last 30 years (allowing me to avoid printed titles in TV listings). However, there is a redirect target for this title...out of Indiana, where a show titled Nightmare Theater seems to have enjoyed a 27-year run at WTTV. The SIGCOV is substantial, and we have an article related to it already. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:44, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Utah show ran from 1962-1982 continuously. Fairly enduring, twenty years. Documentation noted includes television columns noting its popularity. Intergalacticlanguage (talk) 19:05, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why wasn’t this drafted so that the creator can be helped, instead of having to defend the page at an Afd, which is pretty stressful? Draft, please, if the creator and other users agree, speedy-draft, if such a thing exists. I don’t think that nominating a new page 20 minutes after it was created was the best approach. ’Not ready for Main space”, sure but explain it and draftify is, if the creator is a newcomer/apparently not very experienced contributor, the most constructive path imv. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:48, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Formatted the page roughly. The claim that it was the longest show in Utah and coverage might be enough to Keep this. If not, redirect and merge (in)to KTVX#History please. Very opposed to deletion.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:41, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Please note that the Utah TV show in this article is entirely distinct from the Indiana TV show of the same name starring Sammy Terry. The Sammy Terry character was on Indiana TV from 1962 to 1989, occasionally thereafter, continuously makes personal appearances, and still produces web content; Sammy Terry has plenty of reliable sources (print news and at least one book), far beyond what the article currently references. If this article survives, it should be moved to something like Nightmare Theater (Utah), with Nightmare Theater being a redirect to Sammy Terry or a disambiguation page. Vadder (talk) 23:26, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I would agree that, even if enough sourcing demonstrating notability could be found, the Utah show is not the primary topic. The Indiana show has much more material to work with. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 15:37, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  I did the initial page, and I believe Nightmare Theater (Utah) would be the proper title. This would avoid confusion with all the other Nightmare Theater and Theatres out there. While the show was broadcast on a Salt Lake City station, it was received statewide. Intergalacticlanguage (talk) 16:15, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla _{Ohhhhhh, no!} 22:08, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I've added a hatnote to distinguish the two identically named shows. Moving to a better title, if applicable, can be done once the AfD is closed. Those who !voted to redirect to Sammy Terry, please consider amending your suggestion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 06:50, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2013 Little League Softball World Series results

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

This is a listing of sports results without context. Parts of this discussed in reliable sources would fit well in the main article, which already contains sports results. Proposing deletion per WP:NOT -- Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, despite the fact that the results are formatted nicely. Mrfoogles (talk) 06:46, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Softball-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:13, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Absolute (Aion album)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Five articles about albums not shown to pass WP:NALBUM. Back in the day, Wikipedia's approach to album notability was to extend an automatic inclusion freebie to any album recorded by a notable artist, regardless of its sourcing or lack thereof, in the service of completionist directoryism -- but that's long since been kiboshed, and albums are now independently notable only if they can be shown to pass WP:GNG on reliable source coverage about the album. But four of these five articles are completely unreferenced, and one is referenced solely to a single unreliable source directory listing that isn't support for notability.
It also warrants note that these were all briefly redirected to the band a year and a half ago for lack of independent sourcing, but that was reverted within 24 hours with no actual explanation provided of what the problem with redirecting them was, and they've continued to stand as unreferenced articles ever since, without ever having a whit of GNG-worthy sourcing added to any of them. Bearcat (talk) 13:04, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Music and Japan. Bearcat (talk) 13:04, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I was the one who reverted some redirections, and I don't really recall why, but when I look into it now, I see that the editor who made the redirects was a problem editor who became indefinitely blocked. Geschichte (talk) 14:19, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:32, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 14:17, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:22, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect Human Griefman to the band, the others fail WP:NALBUM, so delete them all for having generic titles. If a user is able to put Aion in brackets to disambiguate, they are also able to search directly for Aion. Nothing in the page history worth preserving, as the track lists are found on external websites too. Geschichte (talk) 05:23, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Freestyle fixed gear

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

I don't think this article in its current state meets WP:NSPORT. Yes we have fixed-gear bicycle, as well as fixed gear racing, but it doesn't seem clear what this one is all about. As they say, two heads are better than one, and here I am to find the community's assessment. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 05:35, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sports and Cycling. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 05:39, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the sport of freestyle fixed gear meets notability. Aside from being featured in Hollywood motion pictures (cited), the very first cycling trick done on film was done on a fixed gear bicycle (this is cited in the article). A fixed gear bike was used in the X Games (in 2001 Trevor Meyer) the premier showcase of Extreme sport. Fixed-gear bicycle article doesn't contain the details or background on the community of people doing tricks on fixed gear bikes. Racing on a fixed gear isn't really related to freestyle (tricks) on a fixed gear; similar to how speed skating isn't related to figure skating. FixedGearFreeStyle (talk) 23:59, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 13:57, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:21, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Startup Britain

AfDs for this article:

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:ORGCRIT. Created as promo. AfD a decade ago closed as no consensus and there's been no improvement since. A campaign which appears to have had little lasting impact after initial routine news coverage. Website is now dead. Huge sections of unverifiable text. AusLondonder (talk) 07:14, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Business, Companies, and United Kingdom. AusLondonder (talk) 07:14, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:18, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or maybe redirect to a section on one of the people related to it, for example, Luke Johnson (businessman) § Other activities. There's really nothing suitable to merge here. If someone suggests an alternate target, I don't really have a strong opinion, just pick one or delete it and make the article go away. Make targeting RfD's problem. Alpha3031 (t • c) 04:24, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Luke Johnson isn't even currently mentioned at the article, not sure a redirect is really necessary here. AusLondonder (talk) 05:30, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. Already at AFD so not eligible for a Soft Deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:18, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Morrison Hashii

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Having played 2 minutes in Singapore, for a community college and in the English non-league, this player has not picked up significant, independent coverage to meet WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 07:01, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Japan. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 08:36, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 16:58, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:00, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep - I have expanded the article as much as currently possible, and with Hashii being a relatively prolific goal-scorer in non-league football in England, I imagine he will continue to garner coverage. Worst case, draftify. Zênite (talk) 17:02, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Sourcing is limited to non-RS blog posts (e.g. nonleaguehq), routine transactional and award announcements in local news, and routine match recaps. Not seeing anything approaching GNG here. JoelleJay (talk) 02:41, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting, it would be helpful to get a review of expansion of this article.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:15, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with JoelleJay's assessment. Geschichte (talk) 05:24, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

El Taiger

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

I can't find any significant coverage from independent and reliable sources.

the topic of the article seems not to comply with WP:SINGER, not WP:WEB, and just looking at the page shows that it also lacks WP:SIGCOV in WP:RS to comply with WP:GNG Pitille02 (talk) 05:26, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 October 12. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 05:38, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Cuba, and Florida. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:40, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. For precisely the reasons presented in the nomination. Regards, BoyTheKingCanDance (talk) 06:14, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. There is significant coverage. There is a BBC article [37]. There is also coverage before death, in 2022, for instance [38][39][40] He seems a prominent artist. BilboBeggins (talk) 07:18, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The BBC source is about his death, while the others are press releases about an album and tour. Not significant independent coverage. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 16:56, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. as the article looks now, there is no encyclopedic significance at all. If kept, reliable sources need to me added to the article for notability. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 13:00, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No significant media coverage of his music career, only his death. Death does not automatically establish notability. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 16:49, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. There are reliable sources and there were more more sources, some from reliable sites, which were taken out of the article. Also, the nominator did not tell me about the nomination. Jeanette Lalo Camacho Martin (si?) 19:50, 12 October, 2024 (UTC)

PANONY

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Coverage is WP:ROUTINE, no WP:SIGCOV, fails WP:GNG Andre🚐 04:46, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Business, Internet, and Asia. Andre🚐 04:46, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Cryptocurrency-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:37, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - not yet a notable WP:CORP. If someone can find SIGCOV in reliable Chinese sources, please ping me here. Wikishovel (talk) 13:08, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I cannot find enough information for it to pass WP:GNG; for now, it fails. UserMemer (chat) Tribs 22:27, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Daily Ajker Jamalpur

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

WP:GNG, WP:NPERIODICAL. The article shows zero evidence of notability. Sayful Ialam (talk) 04:20, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of News media-related deletion discussions. Sayful Ialam (talk) 04:20, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:38, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Have no any prove for Notability. ~ Deloar Akram (Talk • Contribute) 16:20, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Embassy of South Korea, Ankara

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:ORG. Only 2 primary sources provided. A search for sources found incidents like this which don't really add to notability. https://www.turkiyetoday.com/turkiye/south-korean-ambassador-jeong-yeondoo-prefers-yht-for-ankara-trip-539/ LibStar (talk) 03:50, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bilateral relations, South Korea, and Turkey. LibStar (talk) 03:50, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. Already PROD'd so not eligible for Soft Deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:42, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alterian

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Does not meet NCORP. The sources I found were either routine, not independent or fail SIGCOV. Badbluebus (talk) 03:13, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, United Kingdom, Australia, United States of America, and Colorado. Badbluebus (talk) 03:13, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies and Software. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:38, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Magnet Man

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

promotional..notability in doubt SINGS09 (talk) 03:11, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Barbados. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:36, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Disagree with this nomination, particularly no evidence of a WP:BEFORE. The article does need some cleanup but that's no reason for deletion. There is enough coverage, including of awards and platinum sales, from independent sources to meet WP:MUSICBIO. ResonantDis_tortion 09:43, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:52, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy delete. per G11 by Jimfbleak. (non-admin closure)‎ Shellwood (talk) 10:16, 12 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Mahila Vidyalaya Degree College

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Declined G11. I would normally draftify, but a draft already exists. Tried looking on Google, with few usable results. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 02:35, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Education, and Uttar Pradesh. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 02:35, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draft:Mahila Vidyalaya Degree College has been tagged for CSD so I'm not sure if it will be around for very long. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:34, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Liz Certainly worth mentioning. Just FYI, I think the article and draft have the same text. It was tagged by someone else, though. In any case, one isn't technically supposed to move an article into draftspace without getting consensus (like through AfD) if someone objects to the drafticiation. This can done either directly or, or has happened here, by moving the draft into mainspace. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 03:47, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:39, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

Private Eye Action, as You Like It

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

This article has been tagged as unsourced since 2009. I looked for reviews via Google, Google Scholar, ProQuest, Kirkus, Publishers Weekly, Booklist, Newspaper Archive, and JSTOR to no avail. There is an ISFDB listing, but it doesn't include any secondary verifications or reviews. I would redirect to the author, but this book has two authors, so I think the best option is to delete if NBOOK cannot be met. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 02:33, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:39, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Taylor Rousseau Grigg

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

May not meet WP:ENT or WP:SIGCOV. Minimal sourcing outside of her death. TJMSmith (talk) 01:52, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Fashion, Internet, and Texas. TJMSmith (talk) 01:52, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:09, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I'm not seeing what makes her notable. Her follower count isn't especially massive in comparison to the highest followed on the app, her business ventures aren't notable. Rusted AutoParts 03:13, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Glacier Bancorp

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Does not meet WP:NCORP. Most sources are routine. Badbluebus (talk) 01:03, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Finance, Organizations, Business, Companies, United States of America, Delaware, and Montana. Badbluebus (talk) 01:03, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Awmsawi

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

PROD'd with the rationale: Could not find a single reliable source that mentions this placename. NGS Names Server doesn't even have it as a "populated place", their wastebasket taxon of geographic names. Searching the coords in Google shows what's maybe a few houses, but without any reliable sources, even a trivial legal recognition, we can't confirm the place meets GEOLAND.

De-PROD'd with the edit summary "deprod; appears to exist; WP:GEOLAND", which completely fails to take into account that I did address GEOLAND in my PROD rationale. "Appears to exist" based on what reliable sources? None, of course, were added. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:39, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Myanmar. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:10, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

delete due to failed verification. GMaps shows a village named "Butlang" at the given coordinates; maybe they are the same but without sources there's every reason not to believe this article. Mangoe (talk) 20:02, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Climate finance in the United States

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

AI-generated redundant fork of Climate change policy of the United States sourced entirely to primary sources. Flounder fillet (talk) 00:23, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Environment and United States of America. Flounder fillet (talk) 00:23, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Climate policy of the United States: As a WP:ATD. The article is too low-quality to merge anything. I note that there are several other articles titled "Climate finance in X", some of which might be suitable for merging into more general articles about climate change in their respective countries. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 01:54, 12 October 2024 (UTC) Helpful Raccoon (talk) 01:54, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Finance-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:10, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nishikant Dixit

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

No reliable sources in English or Hindi (निशिकांत दीक्षित). All sources are unconfirmed YouTube interviews [41], IWM Buzz [42], India Forums [43], and Telly Chakkar [44], which are all listed as unreliable at Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force#Guidelines on sources. This doesn't add anytihng [45]. Might meet WP:NACTOR (30+ small roles) but no reliable sources. DareshMohan (talk) 00:14, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Television, and Uttar Pradesh. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:11, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]