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August 27

Portal:Current events/2024 August 27

August 27, 2024 (2024-08-27) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure 26 August 2024 Russian strikes on Ukraine Russian missile and drone attacks resume across Ukraine in Kyiv and Dnipropetrovsk Oblast, killing at least four people and injuring five others in Kryvyi Rih. (The Independent) (Kyiv Independent) President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy announces that Ukraine has successfully tested a domestically-produced ballistic missile for the first time. (Ukrainska Pravda) Law and crime Arrest of Pavel Durov French prosecutors publicly accuse Telegram CEO Pavel Durov of twelve charges while in custody, including violations associated with drug trafficking, child exploitation, money laundering, and nine other crimes. (Kyiv Independent)

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RD: Nabil Elaraby

Article: Nabil Elaraby (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Egypt Today
Credits:

• Nominated by Knightoftheswords281 (talk · give credit)
• Created by 84.160.115.66 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Zweifel (talk · give credit), Fjmustak (talk · give credit), Jkaharper (talk · give credit), Dominus Moravian (talk · give credit) and TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Secretary General of the Arab League. Needs a tid bit of sourcing work — Knightoftheswords 03:34, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Eight cn tags, with some sections such as awards and UN subsections entirely unsourced. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 05:43, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

August 26

Portal:Current events/2024 August 26

August 26, 2024 (2024-08-26) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure 26 August 2024 Russian strikes on Ukraine Massive Russian attacks are launched on cities across Ukraine, killing at least seven people. Ukrainian officials call it the largest Russian attack on Ukraine since the beginning of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. (Kyiv Independent) (Kyiv Independent 2) (Reuters) Poland says that a drone had likely entered its airspace during the attacks on Ukraine and that searches were underway for the object as it may have landed in Polish territory. (Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty) (Reuters) Military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War, Corruption in Ukraine Audits conducted by the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense determine that between March and July, multiple Armed Forces of Ukraine units never received nearly US$4.2 million in military aid labeled as "humanitarian aid" to bypass customs fees, prompting embezzlement and illicit enrichment investigations. (Kyiv Independent) Insurgency in Balochistan Operation Hereof The Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA) launches an offensive against the Pakistani Army in Balochistan, Pakistan, gaining control of several key highways, including the Karachi–Quetta section of National Highway 8, and also damages a train station in Mastung. (Al Jazeera) At least 14 soldiers and policemen and 21 BLA gunmen are killed in ambushes and clashes on highways in Balochistan. Five civilians are also killed in Kalat. (Al Jazeera) Twenty-three people are killed in a mass shooting targeting Punjabis on a highway in Musakhail District. Between 30 and 40 armed men offloaded passengers from trucks and buses and shot them after checking their identities, subsequently setting fire to their vehicles. The BLA claims responsibility for the attack. (Dawn) (NPR) Sudanese civil war Darfur campaign The Rapid Support Forces shell an internally displaced persons camp in North Darfur, Sudan, killing 25 people and wounding at least 40 others. (Sudan Tribune) Libyan crisis The Benghazi-based Libyan Government of National Stability says that it is suspending production at all oil fields and oil terminals that it controls until further notice amid a dispute with the central bank in Tripoli. (France 24) (S&P Global) Business and economy Canada–China relations Canada announces a 100% tariff on imports of Chinese-made electric vehicles and a 25% tariff on Chinese steel and aluminum. (AP) Disasters and accidents 2024 Nigeria floods At least 49 people are killed and more than 40,000 people are displaced after heavy rains caused floods in Adamawa, Jigawa, and Taraba states, Nigeria. (Al Jazeera) Arbaat Dam collapse The Arbaat Dam collapses near Port Sudan, Sudan, amid floodwaters, killing more than 60 people, displacing around 50,000 more, and destroying 20 villages. (Al Jazeera) One person is killed and three others are injured in a landslide in Ketchikan, Alaska, United States. (AP) Health and environment 2023–2024 mpox epidemic Germany announces that it will donate 100,000 doses of mpox vaccines to the Democratic Republic of the Congo and other African nations, as well as provide funding to the GAVI Vaccine Alliance through the World Health Organization. (DW) International relations France–Russia relations, Arrest of Pavel Durov Russian lawmakers accuse French authorities of arresting Russian-born Telegram CEO Pavel Durov in order to acquire confidential information from Telegram users, and urge Russian users to delete all confidential information on the Telegram app. (Politico) President of France Emmanuel Macron makes the first official French acknowledgement of the arrest of Pavel Durov by stating that Durov's arrest had "no political motive" and also dismissed contrary accusations and claims by free speech protesters and Russia as "false information". (Reuters) Law and crime Controversies surrounding Uber The Dutch Data Protection Authority fines Uber €290 million (US$324 million) for allegedly breaching the European Union's General Data Protection Regulation in order to collect information on its European drivers. (DW) The National Football League Players Association files a lawsuit against DraftKings for allegedly violating an agreement to pay licensing fees on NFL players' likeness rights after DraftKings closed its NFT trading cards business. (Reuters)

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RD: Sid Eudy

Article: Sid Eudy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): WWE, USA Today
Credits:

• Nominated by The Kip (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American professional wrestler and former WWE/WCW world champion better known as Sid Justice, Sid Vicious, or Sycho Sid. Article needs a lot of work. The Kip ^(contribs) 20:55, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

• Let It Be Known to those who know as "The Man Who Rules The World", but this article doesn't mention that and most of what it does mention hasn't been cited for years, isn't cited now and won't be cited by the time this goes stale. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:14, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Sven-Göran Eriksson

Article: Sven-Göran Eriksson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Sport
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by The C of E (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former England national football team manager The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 11:31, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Support good article, I didn’t spot any CN tags or unsourced sections so I think it’s good to go. Sadsolarpanel (talk) 11:37, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support. There were a few citations needed, but I think I've most sorted those out and looks good otherwise.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:53, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

  I see one unsourced paragraph, on his appointment as Notts County manager. Pawnkingthree (talk) 12:51, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

  • I added a reference there but still needs more. Abcmaxx (talk) 14:47, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose There's a lot of unsourced claims, especially relating to money and salary, which really have to be sourced. I added cn tags. Abcmaxx (talk) 14:47, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
  • @Abcmaxx: Those have been sorted. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 16:57, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support good article, notable person. I don't see any major issues. 31.44.224.222 (talk) 15:33, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose article has quite a few cn tags. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 16:18, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

@PrinceofPunjab: Those have been sorted now. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 16:57, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Earlier problems pointed out have been fixed, article looks in good shape, RIP. Josey Wales ^Parley 17:06, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support—Based on a cursory review of the article, it seems to be sufficiently referenced and comprehensive. Kurtis ^(talk) 17:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 21:16, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

August 25

Portal:Current events/2024 August 25

August 25, 2024 (2024-08-25) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine At least five people, including three children, are killed and 13 others are injured in an overnight Ukrainian strike on Rakitnoye, Belgorod Oblast, Russia, according to Russian officials. (Al Jazeera) Belarusian involvement in the Russian invasion of Ukraine Ukraine accuses Belarus of building up a "significant level" of troops and weaponry, including artillery, multiple-launch rocket systems and air defense systems along the border under the guise of military exercises, and demands their immediate withdrawal. (The Kyiv Independent) (Reuters) Eastern Ukraine campaign A British safety adviser working for Reuters is killed and two other journalists are injured in a Russian ballistic missile strike on their hotel in Kramatorsk, Donetsk Oblast, Ukraine. (Reuters) Northern Ukraine skirmishes, Chernihiv strikes At least four people are killed and 37 others are injured in overnight Russian attacks in Chernihiv, Sumy, Kharkiv, and Donetsk Oblasts, Ukraine. (Reuters) President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy publicly presents the Ukrainian-produced Palianytsia rocket drone and loitering munition, intended to serve as the Ukrainian counterpart to the Russian ZALA Kub-BLA. (Ukrainska Pravda) Israel–Hezbollah conflict August 2024 Lebanon strikes The Israel Defense Forces says that it has launched preemptive strikes on Hezbollah in Lebanon ahead of an expected major missile and drone attack on Israel. (Axios) (Reuters) Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant declares an "emergency situation" in Israel for the next 48 hours due to the "special situation in the home front". (Times of Israel) Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip At least 71 people are killed and 112 others are injured in Israeli attacks in the Gaza Strip. (Al Jazeera) Jihadist insurgency in Burkina Faso 2024 Barsalogho massacre Nearly 200 people are killed and at least 140 others are injured in an attack by the al-Qaeda-linked Jama'at Nasr al-Islam wal-Muslimin jihadist organization in Barsalogho Department, Burkina Faso. (Al Jazeera) 2024 Solingen stabbing German police detain a 26-year-old Syrian asylum seeker with ties to the Islamic State as the suspect of the stabbing attack in Solingen, Germany, on Friday. The man is charged with three counts of murder, as well as attempted murder, dangerous bodily harm and membership of a terrorist organisation abroad. (AP) Two police officers are killed and three others are injured in an attack in Abuja, Nigeria. A police spokesperson says that the proscribed Islamic Movement of Nigeria was responsible for the attack. (Reuters) Arts and culture Law of Ukraine "On the Protection of the Constitutional Order in the Field of Activities of Religious Organizations" Pope Francis condemns the Ukrainian government's ban of the Moscow-linked Ukrainian Orthodox Church and other Russia-linked religious groups as infringing on Ukrainian civilians' civil right to religious freedom. (Kyiv Independent) Disasters and accidents 2024 Brazil wildfires At least two people are killed in wildfires in São Paulo state, Brazil. (BBC News) Thirteen people are killed and 20 others are injured in a mudslide near the Big Buddha in Phuket, Thailand. (Reuters) Twenty-two people are killed when a bus plunges into a ravine in Kahuta, Punjab, Pakistan. Separately, twelve people are killed in a bus crash on the Makran Coastal Highway in Balochistan, Pakistan. (Al Jazeera) At least thirteen people are killed and at least 14 others remain missing after a boat carrying Ethiopian and Yemeni migrants from Djibouti sinks off the coast of Taiz Governorate, Yemen. (Al Jazeera) One person is killed, one is injured, two are missing and 21 are rescued unharmed after the collapse of an ice cave in the Breiðamerkurjökull glacier, in southern Iceland. (AP) Law and crime Four people are injured in a mass stabbing in Engadine, New South Wales, Australia. The suspect is later taken into custody. (Reuters)

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RD: Don Wert

Article: Don Wert (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
• Updated by DarkStarHarry (talk · give credit) and Umutdyb (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

– Muboshgu (talk) 21:31, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

(Ready) RD: Salim Al-Huss

Article: Salim Al-Huss (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP News
Credits:

• Nominated by Jaguarnik (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Prodrummer619 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Served 4 terms as Prime Minister of Lebanon. Jaguarnik (talk) 01:11, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

• Not Ready. Several cn tags are in place. Changing to Support as the issues have been fixed. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 03:11, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

  @Midori No Sora and @PrinceofPunjab: possible reconsideration? I expanded the article and fixed the citation tags. Prodrummer619 (talk) 17:01, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose some cn tags and unscoured Bibliography. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 06:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Support: Fixed the issues regarding references and the article has been expanded to reflect his career better. Prodrummer619 (talk) 17:03, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support I just looked at the article and all the cn tags and other problems seem to have been fixed. Tradedia^talk 21:40, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Issues have been fixed. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 05:30, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Barsalogho massacre

Article: 2024 Barsalogho massacre (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Dozens of people are killed in an Islamic terrorist attack in Barsalogho Department, Burkina Faso. (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by MrJaydenfire (talk · give credit)

• Not ready while death toll is quite significant, article needs expansion and a blurb needs to be suggest. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 06:40, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support some expansion would be nice but what is there is sufficient and cited. Notoriously hard to find reliable information from Burkina Faso, so that should be taken into account. Abcmaxx (talk) 07:12, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support, article is in a sufficient state and the event is definitely notable. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 10:48, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability, and the article appears to be just long enough. Gödel2200 (talk) 12:59, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support but I'd be wary of using 'at least 200' for the blurb. Al Jazeera says 'up to' and Radio France uses 'around'. No other media mentions the figure 200. – Ammarpad (talk) 13:15, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose According to the List of ongoing armed conflicts, this conflict has been ongoing since 2002 and there have been about 10,000 fatalities so far this year and about 70,000 in total. This particular skirmish seems to have been a firefight over some trenches and characterising it as a "massacre" seems inaccurate as there were casualties on both sides. So, this is not an isolated incident but a small part of an ongoing conflict. The details seem unreliable and POV from one side. Perhaps the war should be added to Ongoing but it's not adequate for a blurb. Andrew🐉(talk) 14:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

  Agree, should be added to ongoing. Sadsolarpanel (talk) 22:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

  • Comment The war should definitely be on ongoing but I think we should still add this event to recent events. Rynoip (talk) 23:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Comment - According to an (unsourced) statement in the JNIM article infobox, this terrorist group has links to the Taliban Afghani government. That seems like a notable piece of info that should be expanded PrecariousWorlds (talk) 14:38, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose per Andrew. Had this been an isolated incident, I would've supported it. I also agree with that the war should be added to ongoing conflicts. 31.44.224.222 (talk) 15:38, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Given notability and death toll. Andrew does bring up an important point about the larger conflict and significant total number of fatalities but I don't see this covered signficantly enough to be updated frequently like the other conflicts we have listed under 'ongoing' in ITN Schwinnspeed (talk) 23:45, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

  Comment: The more I read about this the more I am convinced there will be very little reliable coverage from the region on a frequent enough basis to have meaningful updates under 'ongoing'. Based on the updates to the Jihadist insurgency in Burkina Faso page, it's unlikely to meet the criteria for WP:ONGOING On the other hand, there is an argument to be made that it could bring much needed attention to a lesser known but equally devastating conflict. Whether thats under the purview of WP:ITNPURPOSE is subjective and up for interpretation. Schwinnspeed (talk) 10:09, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support blurb, but oppose ongoing per Schwinnspeed above. It is distinguishable from the other conflicts we currently have listed. Flip^andFlopped ツ 05:12, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Joe D'Alessandris

Article: Joe D'Alessandris (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS Sports
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:E977:822B:E475:C770 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Coingeek (talk · give credit) and Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former coach for the Baltimore Ravens. 240F:7A:6253:1:E977:822B:E475:C770 (talk) 22:11, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

• Not Ready. Article needs expansion as it is to short at the moment. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 01:00, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose article is basically a stub. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 06:41, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Basically no career information. DarkSide830 (talk) 16:12, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Arrest of Pavel Durov

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Pavel Durov#2024_Arrest (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The founder of the messenger app Telegram and the social network VK, Pavel Durov was arrested for complicity in several illegal charges (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Pavel Durov, founder of the messenger app Telegram and the social network VK, is arrested for complicity in several illegal charges.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Pavel Durov, founder of the messenger app Telegram and the social network VK, is arrested on charges of complicity in several crimes.
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by Bakhos2010 (talk · give credit)

Bakhos2010 (talk) 17:45, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose that we don't post simple arrests, we use for the conviction. Further oppose that there's no reason for this to be a separate article from Durov's until there's actually a full trial and conviction to discuss. --Masem (t) 17:49, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support major arrest of a major figure. Like if Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg got arrested. Should be ITN Scu ba (talk) 17:58, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose per Masem, posting it might lead to BLP issues as none of the charges have been upheld in a court of law yet. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 18:03, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support This is rather mysterious but seems (geo)political rather than being an ordinary crime -- comparable with the persecution of people like Julian Assange. It seems to be making making headlines in all the major international media and so is quite newsworthy. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:54, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
• It is certainly in the news to be notable. That sinking in sicily last week was too. very suspicious.Sportsnut24 (talk) 19:12, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose - We don't generally post arrests, and he's neither such a major public figure, nor accused of so huge a crime, as to provide a good reason to vary that. With all due respect to Scu Ba above, Durov really isn't in Musk or Zuckerberg's ballpark. GenevieveDEon (talk) 21:31, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  It may be of surprise that the MAU for Telegram is significantly more than X. Kcmastrpc (talk) 23:16, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  It is not 'of surprise'. I already knew this, and I am a Telegram user myself. But Zuckerberg and Musk are massively influential multi-billionaires with other businesses to their names. If Zuckerberg had been arrested, no-one would be saying he was 'similar to Musk or Durov'. Durov wouldn't be getting mentioned at all. GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:24, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  Durov was once referred to as the “Mark Zuckerburg” of Russia due to his role in VK. I digress though, he’s one of the worlds most influential businessmen, however, he maintains a low profile.

  He’s essentially accused of not suppressing “misinformation” at the behest of the EU. His arrest should scare the hell out of anyone who cares about free speech. Kcmastrpc (talk) 23:34, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  This is not the place to right great wrongs. I'm not saying that this isn't an interesting or concerning development; I'm saying that using sensationalism and peacock terms to describe it is counterproductive in making the argument that it should be on ITN. GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:37, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose - perhaps if this is geopolitical, but I don't see a reason for France to be doing that, or even much speculation. No prejudice if the reason he was arrested is more significant than it appears to be.

Nfitz (talk) 21:39, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support We don’t post allegations per WP:BLP and wait for the conviction, but I don’t see what prevents us from posting an arrest of a major figure if it receives media attention and is well-documented in a separate article.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 23:01, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  There shouldn't be a separate article for the arrest because that itself can be taken as a BLP violation. Nothing dramatic happened with the arrest (eg not a massive manhunt to secure him), and when you take away the reaction section on that article, it all can be covered on the bio page. Not every single event needs its own page. Masem (t) 23:17, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  I strongly suspect AfD would be a speedy keep, but this really isn’t the place to make such an argument. Kcmastrpc (talk) 23:23, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  We can find out, because I have nominated it for deletion/merger. Please note that this is separate from the question of whether the arrest should be at ITN or not - there's a lot of nonsense out there about things which are nominated for ITN needing separate articles (eg deaths, arrests, etc) which isn't true. If the arrest article is deleted, that shouldn't in itself be an obstacle to the story being posted. (And it's my understanding that the article being at AfD suspends this discussion, so it might be best if the ITN nomination targeted the main Pavel Durov article for now.) GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:40, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  Yea, I was attempting to update the links because I don’t believe this discussion should be procedurally closed while the main article covering the arrest is being discussed at AfD. Kcmastrpc (talk) 23:43, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  Thank you. I want to be clear that I think the story of Durov's arrest is important and interesting, just that it's not necessarily material for a separate article or an ITN posting. It's definitely a significant development. GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:46, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  This is notable even if there's no separate article. Given the amount of content in that article, this would be an extensive update of the event in the article about him, which speaks to notability of the event.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:11, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

• Strong Support The arrest, which is very much ITN, of the owner of a social media/messaging app that has nearly a billion users on concerns of “moderation” and a lack of “cooperation” on criminal cases is chilling at best, fascism at worst. Kcmastrpc (talk) 23:13, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  No, it is not fascism for CEOs to be able to face legal consequences for their corporations' actions. Hyping this story up does nothing to help us judge its actual importance. GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:21, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  The French tradition is dirigisme. This case reminds me of the Pierre-sur-Haute military radio station in which Rémi Mathis was forced to "cooperate" by threat of arrest. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:28, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support arrest is making headlines worldwide and IMO I think the arrest of a founder of two quite popular social media platforms qualifies to be blurbworthy. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 06:43, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability and article is of sufficient quality for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 08:11, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Article seems good and per PrinceofPunjab. Arrest is clearly notable and making global headlines. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 08:20, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
• Wait, lean oppose He hasn't been charged with anything yet. If he does get charged (and remains in arrest) in the coming days, let's revisit. I get a feeling this news has more prominence here because most users are attuned to news related to the digital realm, but this isn't prominently featured on major French newspapers. Just another CEO who decided to flaunt regulations, it seems. Would we publish the arrest of a CEO of a company in another industry? And no, it's not a Julian Assange/Freedom of Speech issue. It's a matter of deciding to operate in France while (allegedly) flaunting French laws. Khuft (talk) 09:11, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Casting aspersions, and discussion about readership and views.

Le Monde headlines this as Telegram CEO Pavel Durov arrested in France in world-first case. France24 has it as Russia slams France after arrest of Telegram CEO Pavel Durov. The NYT says Telegram Becomes Free Speech Flashpoint After Founder’s Arrest. So this is both prominent in major French newspapers and explicitly a freedom of speech issue. Khuft's comments are therefore counterfactual. Are they cooperating with the French authorities or what? Andrew🐉(talk) 10:02, 26 August 2024 (UTC) Sorry, are you really accusing Khuft of being a French government proxy? GenevieveDEon (talk) 10:04, 26 August 2024 (UTC) I have no idea who Khuft is and their user page isn't giving much away. I'm just puzzled that their comments are at variance with the evidence that I presented. What's the explanation for this? Andrew🐉(talk) 10:28, 26 August 2024 (UTC) The fact that someone disagrees with you doesn't entitle to cast WP:ASPERSIONS about them secretly working for the French authorities. That's plainly absurd. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 10:51, 26 August 2024 (UTC) I rather doubt that they are working for the French authorities, secretly or otherwise. The point is to ask why they are saying things which seem to be quite wrong and not supported by the evidence. When I google "Le Monde headlines" the top hit is this very story in Le Monde. It's not just prominent, it's the lead story. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:15, 26 August 2024 (UTC) Not sure why there's any need to hyperventilate. The Le Monde link you shared actually validates my point: Le Monde is featuring this story under their "Pixels" segment, where they put news about digital things. If you actually go to Le Monde's French website, you have to scroll down somewhat to find it. If you had read my comment, you'd noticed I mentioned that it's not featured prominently, ie. as one of the top news items. This may change, of course, if he gets charged, which is why my vote was for Wait. Concerning the Freedom of Speech issue: it's well-known that Continental Europe and the US have different conceptions of free speech versus hate speech, so there's no need to elaborate on that. Finally. it's not because a person is able to read French that they are automatically an agent of the French state (or even a French citizen). Khuft (talk) 11:29, 26 August 2024 (UTC) The presentation by Le Monde seems to depend on whether it's the French language version or their English language version (they have a toggle at the top -- FRANÇAIS / ENGLISH). It's currently on the front page in both cases. On the French page, it's about halfway down as Arrestation de Pavel Durov : la défense de l’Etat de droit plus qu’une « attaque contre la liberté d’expression ». On the English page, it's at the top as Pavel Durov's arrest is a defense of the rule of law rather than an attack on freedom of expression. Maybe Le Monde tailors the order of stories to the readership in the different languages but, either way, it's front page news and freedom of speech is a headline aspect. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:44, 26 August 2024 (UTC) As further evidence, note that Le Monde has a "Most read" section and currently that's: Panic mounts on pro-war Russian Telegram channels after Pavel Durov's arrest Telegram CEO Pavel Durov arrested in France in world-first case Paris police wary of new threat posed by Nigerian gangs France extends detention of Telegram CEO Pavel Durov Paris celebrates 80th anniversary of liberation during World War II Solingen knife attack puts Germany's ruling coalition in difficulty Pavel Durov, Russia's libertarian 'Robin Hood' of the internet After police operations 'destabilize' drug dealers in France, a deadly summer Hezbollah's attack on Israel marks 'first phase' that does not upset balance of war So, four out of nine top stories are about Pavel Durov and he has the top two slots. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:02, 26 August 2024 (UTC) Did you check the French language version of the "most read" section? Because that one currently features: 1) article on Hezbollah; 2) & 3) articles on nominating new French PM; 4) Ukraine; 5) French novelist; 6) Pavel Durov; 7), 8) and 9) more French politics. Not sure what the English language version of a French newspaper is supposed to say about the prominence of a news item in France, to be honest. Khuft (talk) 14:08, 26 August 2024 (UTC) This is an international story not an exclusively French one. And this is the English language Wikipedia, not the French one. If international readers like reading about this story in English then this is the right place to cover it. Andrew🐉(talk) 14:37, 26 August 2024 (UTC) You spent the last few posts trying to argue it's a prominent news in France (it's mid at most) and accusing me of being a French agent. Don't complain or change the subject when your own evidence /metrics disprove you. Khuft (talk) 14:46, 26 August 2024 (UTC) That's a clear example of cherry-picking your sources: you're choosing Le Monde's less-used language option because it gives you the answer you want. But in any case - the popularity of the articles is not a guide to significance of the story. As I've said before - Taylor Swift's Eras Tour has been a massive story over the past several months, but no-one has even nominated it here. And that's because readership alone is not an indicator of significance. GenevieveDEon (talk) 15:04, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose posting the arrest (I am mostly opposed to posting arrests in general). Posting the charges is another question, though in this case, I think it makes more sense to wait for the trial, and see if he gets convicted. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:09, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose I don't really see this story in the (mainstream) news at all and this sections supposed to be a representation of topics currently in the worldwide news, is it not?
• Also on a separate topic, has a story about (alleged) criminals getting arrested ever been posted here? Kasperquickly (talk) 15:31, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

  There have been several cases. Examples include: Arrest of Pervez Musharraf, ICC arrest warrant for Putin and Corruption in EU parliament. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:15, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

  Putin was a bit of an IAR exception based on his being a head of state of one of the world's great powers being charged with war crimes. This is a run of the mill criminal case in a developed country with a solid reputation for the rule of law. The other examples were dicey IMO. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:48, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

  Putin was not the first such case – see ICC arrest warrant for Gaddafi while Omar al-Bashir was posted at ITN in 2008, 2009 and 2010 but is still awaiting trial by the ICC. See the Mills of God... Andrew🐉(talk) 19:27, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose. Lot of sensationalism here. Durov isn't some massive household name, and even if he was, his arrest is only a blip. I could see an actual conviction being notable here, but otherwise, this isn't that big of news. DarkSide830 (talk) 16:13, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per Masem. I feel arrest blurbs in general contributes to a trial by media. I also agree with GenevieveDEon and DarkSide830 regarding notability; Your average human is far more likely to have heard of a major world leader, Facebook/Twitter or Zuckerberg/Musk than Telegram/VK and Durov. 31.44.224.222 (talk) 16:30, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per above, we don't post simple arrests. Editor 5426387 (talk) 17:40, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
• Strong Oppose We do not post arrests. Also linking an unproven set of serious criminal charges on the main page raises serious BLP concerns in my mind. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:44, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

  Yes, we do post arrests. I've posted five examples above and am still going through the archives. Here are another 10. They are in no particular order as that's how the search delivers them.

  1. In the midst of announced reforms by Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman, over 40 senior Saudi princes and ministers are arrested on corruption charges.
  2. Hezbollah rejects arrest warrants issued by the Special Tribunal for Lebanon against its senior members.
  3. Guinean President Alpha Condé is arrested by military officials during a coup d'état.
  4. In Russia, protests against the arrest of Alexey Navalny occur in many cities.
  5. Suffolk police launch an investigation on five dead bodies discovered near Ipswich in Suffolk, United Kingdom. A 37-year-old supermarket worker is arrested in nearby Trimley St. Martin on suspicion of murder.
  6. The Chinese government announces that artist and dissident Ai Weiwei has been arrested.
  7. Two separate criminal probes result in the arrest of seven FIFA officials and the raid of its headquarters by Swiss police.
  8. Three individuals are arrested for involvement with a security breach at Twitter that resulted in many prominent accounts promoting a bitcoin scam.
  9. Wichita, Kansas police announce the arrest of Dennis Rader, who they suspect to be the BTK killer.
  10. In Germany, 25 members of a far-right group are arrested in connection with a coup d'état plot.

  Andrew🐉(talk) 20:49, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support A notable case of a government action against one of the most popular messengers in the world, has sparked a huge debate about free expression and compliance with authorities, possibly a field-changing event. The article looks fine. Trepang2 (talk) 21:01, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose The French government have said that the arrest is nothing to do with them and is purely a police matter, appearing to be part of a larger investigation. Given that, the arrest of someone who isn't a major public figure I don't believe rises to the level of ITN - yet. Black Kite (talk) 21:12, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Per Masem and many others above, wait for the conviction. Schwinnspeed (talk) 23:38, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

August 24

Portal:Current events/2024 August 24

August 24, 2024 (2024-08-24) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Three-phase Israel–Hamas war ceasefire proposal Hamas states that it will refuse any ceasefire conditions that allow Israel to continue to control the Rafah Crossing and Philadelphi Corridor, and also accuses the United States of spreading false optimism to support Democratic nominee Kamala Harris's presidential campaign instead of implementing constructive diplomatic measures. (Al Jazeera) Israel–Hezbollah conflict Israeli Defence Forces shells Ayta ash Shab, Aitaroun and Maroun al-Ras in southern Lebanon. (Andalou Ajansi) Hezbollah launches 20 rockets, drone strikes and shelling on IDF sites in northern Israel and the Golan Heights. (Andalou Ajansi) Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine Governor of Belgorod Oblast Vyacheslav Gladkov says that five civilians have been killed by Ukrainian shelling in Rakitnoye, Russia. (Reuters) 2024 Solingen stabbing The Islamic State group claims responsibility for yesterday's mass stabbing in Solingen, Germany, that killed three people and injured eight others. (BBC News) Insurgency in Balochistan Three people, including two children, are killed and fifteen others are injured in a motorcycle bomb blast in Pishin District, Balochistan Province, Pakistan. (Al Jazeera) (The Washington Post) Somali Civil War A large fire breaks out at the Elasha-Biyaha market near Mogadishu, Somalia following an IED explosion linked to Al-Shabaab. No casualties are reported. (Idil News) Terrorism in France French police arrests a man suspected of attempted arson upon a synagogue in La Grande-Motte, Occitanie, France. The incident is being treated as an anti-semitic terrorist attack. (CNN) Disasters and accidents 2024 Brazil wildfires, 2023–2024 South American drought At least two people are killed at an industrial plant in Urupês after trying to control widespread wildfires impacting at least 30 cities in São Paulo state, Brazil. (Reuters) At least three workers are missing at the construction site of the Bangkok–Nong Khai high-speed railway in Pak Chong, Nakhon Ratchasima, Thailand after a tunnel collapses. (MCOT) Health and environment 2024 Red Sea oil spill The European Union Operation Aspides task force warns of a likely significant and ongoing oil spill in the Red Sea following Houthi demolition of the Greek-flagged Sounion oil tanker carrying 150,000 tons of petroleum, with Houthi footage showing flaming oil leaking into the sea. (AP) (Financial Times) International relations Foreign relations of Hungary, Hungary and the Russian invasion of Ukraine Lukoil oil transit dispute Hungary accuses the European Union of being behind Ukraine-placed sanctions blocking Russian oil shipments to both Hungary and Slovakia essential for their fuel security as blackmail for anti-Ukraine acts, following the European Commission's refusal to mediate sanction negotiations while asserting that there was no oil shortage. (Reuters) Russia–Ukraine relations, Russian invasion of Ukraine Prisoners of war in the Russian invasion of Ukraine Russia and Ukraine complete a prisoner exchange mediated by the United Arab Emirates with 115 prisoners of war from each side. (Al Jazeera) Law and crime Mexican drug war 2010 San Fernando massacre, 2011 San Fernando massacre Eleven Los Zetas gunmen are sentenced to 50 years in prison each for the 2010–2011 massacres of 122 men in Reynosa, Tamaulipas, Mexico, who were taken off passing buses and forced to fight each other to death with sledgehammers. (AP) Arrest of Pavel Durov The owner and founder of the Telegram and VK social networks Pavel Durov is arrested at Paris–Le Bourget Airport in France shortly after arriving from Azerbaijan, in connection with alleged illegal activity on his Telegram app. (BBC News) (Reuters) Kidnapping in Nigeria Nigerian police announce that the 20 medical students who were kidnapped in Benue State, Nigeria, last week have been found without making any ransom payments. (Al Jazeera)

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RD: Stephen E. Thorpe

Article: Stephen E. Thorpe (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NZ Herald
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• Created by Sminthopsis84 (talk · give credit)
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

English-born New Zealand entomologist. 240F:7A:6253:1:BC57:383D:4D26:A245 (talk) 14:32, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Christoph Daum

Article: Christoph Daum (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Der Spiegel, Associated Press
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:7157:6A0D:C1D6:975F (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Egeefecik35 (talk · give credit), ErnestCadine (talk · give credit), TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit), FMSky (talk · give credit) and Clibenfoart (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Noted German football coach. 240F:7A:6253:1:7157:6A0D:C1D6:975F (talk) 12:36, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Support Article looks ready. Sadsolarpanel (talk) 13:51, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Honours section is unsourced. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 16:24, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Betty Halbreich

Article: Betty Halbreich (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): WWD
Credits:

• Nominated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Bearian (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Article updated and well sourced. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 00:25, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

• Suppport no major issues in terms of citations. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 02:48, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Support looks alright to me. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 16:25, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Support a passing admin should RD this. Flip^andFlopped ツ 05:19, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Posted—Bagumba (talk) 05:40, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Tom Brown Jr.

Article: Tom Brown Jr. (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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American survivalist. Obituary published 24 August. Thriley (talk) 22:44, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Not ready article needs a bit of restructuring and there are two cn tags but hey! Publications and media section is fully sourced. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 16:27, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

August 23

Portal:Current events/2024 August 23

August 23, 2024 (2024-08-23) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukraine War The United States announces a new military aid package to Ukraine, including air defense missiles, munitions for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS), an array of anti-armor missiles, vehicles, and other equipment. (AP) Israel–Hezbollah conflict Hezbollah launches over 100 rocket strikes on Israel Defense Forces targets in Mount Meron and Al-Malkiyya that were intercepted by Iron Dome and caused wildfires. (Times of Israel) Seven Hezbollah militants are killed in Israeli airstrikes and shelling on Tayr Harfa and Shebaa in southern Lebanon. (Times of Israel) Kurdistan Workers' Party insurgency, Turkish war crimes Three people, including two journalists, are killed and another journalist is injured in a Turkish drone strike on a vehicle in Sulaymaniyah in the Kurdistan Region of Iraq. (Al Jazeera) (Committee to Protect Journalists) Surovikino penal colony hostage crisis Four inmates linked to the Islamic State seize control of a prison in Surovikino, Volgograd Oblast, Russia, and take hostages, killing four prison staff members and injuring three others. The attackers are shot dead by responding security forces. (Azerbaijani Press Agency) (The Guardian) Syrian civil war Abu Abdul Rahman Makki, a senior leader of the al-Qaeda-linked Hurras al-Din, is killed by an airstrike in Jabal Zawiya, Idlib Governorate, Syria. (AP) Business and economy Unemployment in the United States United States Chair of the Federal Reserve Jerome Powell states that increased unemployment rates and labor market cooling has made it necessary for the Federal Reserve to markedly reduce interest rates in the near future. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents 2024 India–Bangladesh floods At least 23 people are killed and more than 4.5 million people are affected by floods caused by heavy rains in eastern Bangladesh. (Al Jazeera) Twenty-seven people are killed and 16 more injured when a bus carrying Indian pilgrims on the Prithvi Highway in Nepal crashes. (AP) Ten people are killed by landslides and flooding in Phuket, Thailand. (Bangkok Post) Health and environment 2023–2024 mpox epidemic Gabon reports its first case of mpox in a man who traveled to Uganda. (Le Monde) International relations International sanctions during the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Russia–United States relations, China–United States relations The United States Treasury Department imposes sanctions on more than 400 individuals and entities, including Chinese firms that are allegedly aiding Russia in order to avoid western sanctions. (Reuters) (CNN) Peace negotiations in the Russian invasion of Ukraine, India–Ukraine relations During a meeting in Kyiv, Ukraine, Prime Minister of India Narendra Modi urges Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to end the Russo-Ukrainian War, and volunteers to act as a mediator in talks between Zelenskyy and Russia. In a later national address, Zelenskyy thanked Modi but stated that it is necessary for India to respect international law as well as Ukraine's territorial integrity and sovereignty. (Reuters) Poland–South Africa relations South Africa blocks the transfer of 50,000 purchased artillery shells to Poland out of fear that they would be sent to Ukraine for use in the Russo-Ukrainian War. (Kyiv Independent) Law and crime 2023 antisemitic riots in the North Caucasus A court in Krasnodar, Russia, sentences five men to more than six years in prison for participating in anti-Israel riots at Uytash Airport in Makhachkala, Dagestan, in October 2023. (Reuters) 2024 Solingen stabbing Three people are killed and eight others are wounded in a mass stabbing at a public festival Solingen, NRW, Germany, during celebrations for the 650th anniversary of the city. A manhunt for the suspect and a citywide shelter-in-place emergency for residents are ongoing. (AP) 2024 United Kingdom riots The United Nations Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination recommends that the United Kingdom implement bans and auditing of hate speech, xenophobia, and far-right rhetoric by politicians, in addition to prohibiting the strip-searching of children and addressing the over-policing of schools, following widespread destructive anti-immigration protests exacerbated by remarks made by public figures and politicians. (Reuters) (The Guardian) The Hellenic Coast Guard open fire against a motorboat carrying 14 migrants near the island of Symi, Greece, killing one of the passengers. (AP) Politics and elections 2024 United States presidential election Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 2024 presidential campaign Robert F. Kennedy Jr. announces that he is ending his presidential campaign and endorses Donald Trump's campaign. However, Kennedy will remain on the ballot in some states as he has already registered his campaign there. (The Hill) (USA Today)

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Solingen stabbing

Article: 2024 Solingen stabbing (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A mass stabbing linked to Islamic terrorism at a festival in Solingen, Germany leaves at least three people dead and multiple people with severe injuries. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Germany, three people are killed in a mass stabbing claimed by Islamic State at a festival in Solingen.
News source(s): Reuters, WP
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Thriley (talk) 00:41, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• Wait good faith nom but leaning oppose. Let's see if this is bigger than it appears at the moment. Absent more than what we know at the moment, I'd probably oppose. Worse crimes occur on a near daily basis. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:55, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

  Bondi got posted, why shouldn’t this? 27.96.223.192 (talk) 07:35, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Wait Similar to the Bondi stabbing so we will most likely post in due time when more info comes out 27.96.223.192 (talk) 01:06, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Wait per above. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 04:38, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Wait for more information as per above. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:18, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Support Mass casualty event that is being covered significantly across global media outlets. Article appears to meet the criteria for ITN and will only continue to develop. Kcmastrpc (talk) 15:57, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose. There's no wait, something needs to demonstrate notability before anything else. There's been no wide societal effect (like there was with the recent Southport stabbing), and none of the people involved are notable. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 00:35, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

They have not ruled out being a terrorist attack and are investigating as if it was one. I agree if this turns out to be a simple domestic matter that it doesn't make sense to post, but if this was terrorism, that's a different matter. — Masem (t) 00:44, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Same thing with Bondi, we posted that didn’t we? 27.96.223.192 (talk) 04:26, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

It's notable due to how rare deadly knife attacks are in Germany. Furthermore it seems to be an Islamist attack claimed by IS which has had notable political ramifications. IsTheLightThatBright (talk) 13:23, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support The fact that ISIS have now claimed responsibility makes this somewhat more significant. Flyingfishee (talk) 03:42, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  ISIS is not a reliable source for the time of day, or anything else absent independent confirmation. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:50, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  I don't recall ISIS having a history of making false claims. Is there a good example of that previously? (though this isn't particularly striking me as an overly significant story - it's not getting massive coverage compared to several other news stories running right now). Nfitz (talk) 06:57, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  The 2017 Las Vegas shooting is an obvious example. Celjski Grad (talk) 09:54, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  Has that explicitly been disproven? This article discusses the Las Vegas claim:

  https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/10/isis-amaq-las-vegas/541746/ IsTheLightThatBright (talk) 12:22, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  Nothing in our articles disproves the ISIS claim - and no motive has yet been determined. One of our supporting references notes that ISIS making false claims would be unusual. Though I was thinking in a European context. Nfitz (talk) 01:06, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support for the following reasons: three people killed in a country where such killings are not notable, you have a notable Islamist group claiming responsibility, and involves an issue that is highly political in numerous nations and is also connected to a wider geopolitical controversy. It's currently on the frontpage of BBC, ABC News Australia, Bloomberg, HuffPost, NBC News, CNN, CBC News, AlJazeera, and WION.

IsTheLightThatBright (talk) 12:17, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

"where such killings are not notable" should be "where such killings are not common". IsTheLightThatBright (talk) 12:18, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

you can update your original post, and delete the follow up (and you have my permission to delete this message if you wish). Kcmastrpc (talk) 13:38, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Yep, I agree. It would be a different story if for example a shooting killed a few people in America we wouldn’t post but the same happening in Iceland for example would get posted. It’s about notability not death count. 27.96.223.192 (talk) 12:32, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Why don't you declare your support then? IsTheLightThatBright (talk) 13:08, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Support No reason this shouldn’t be on ITN, significant attack. Sadsolarpanel (talk) 13:52, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Mass stabbing incidents are not actually incredibly rare in Germany, with three major ones happening just this year. If it turns out that this was terrorism, then I would reconsider. Gödel2200 (talk) 14:44, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  German police to suspect terrorism: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/08/24/german-police-hunt-for-suspect-who-killed-three-in-festival/

  But it's also wrong to say that these attacks aren't rare. There are three major ones but that's trend of political violence and Islamist attacks that are notable in itself, and three is also not common as you put it. IsTheLightThatBright (talk) 15:03, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

(1) Suspecting that this was terrorism is very different from confirming that this was terrorism.

(2) I am not saying that these types of attacks are common, but at least three in one year certainly does not seem rare to me. Gödel2200 (talk) 15:13, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

1) It won't be confirmed that it was terrorism until the investigation is completed which will take days if not weeks, and it may even be non-confirmed if the police go down a politically-neutral route like mental heath (as they do in the UK). The likelihood that it was terrorism is high nevertheless.

2) It does not need to be rare, just uncommon enough that it can go on ITN. IsTheLightThatBright (talk) 15:21, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

• Update blurb to include ISIS claiming responsibility Scu ba (talk) 23:07, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

• Done Authorities have announced the suspect is linked to IS. Kcmastrpc (talk) 00:46, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support if there was any doubt as to notability, that has been evaporated by ISIS claiming responsibility. Flip^andFlopped ツ 05:15, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Picture is clearer now. Time to post.CoatCheck (talk) 14:27, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Russell Malone

Article: Russell Malone (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

• Nominated by Flibirigit (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Robby.is.on (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Noted jazz guitarist. Needs more citations to be ready. Flibirigit (talk) 00:00, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• I doubt that I will have time to make improvements before this goes stale. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 14:47, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose unsourced discography and couple of cn tags. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 04:39, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Peter Lundgren

Article: Peter Lundgren (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tennis World USA, ATP Tour
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:6C5A:3B46:FCA7:E9D5 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Swedish tennis player and coach of Roger Federer. His death was announced on this day. 240F:7A:6253:1:6C5A:3B46:FCA7:E9D5 (talk) 17:58, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

• Comment Some more background information on Lundgren himself in the prose would be nice, his upbringing and a mention of his death is all that is really needed. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 18:50, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Support The article looks good and the person is definitely notable enough to post. 27.96.223.192 (talk) 22:22, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Support article meets the bare minimum requirement. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 04:40, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: Multiple unsourced statements. Spencer^T•C 18:52, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Summer Koshien

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Article: Summer Koshien (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Kyoto International wins the 106th Summer Koshien. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Kyoto International wins the 106th Summer Koshien for the first time ever.
News source(s): NHK Kyodo KBS World AP-Yonhap
Credits:

• Nominated by Meganinja202 (talk · give credit)

i am not used to it so i accept suggestions for the blurb, The number is used beacuse is mostly commonly used instead of the year, akin to Olympics or Super Bowl. Meganinja202 (talk) 06:48, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Sensationalism isn’t allowed for ITN. Pretty sure we don’t post school tournaments here either. 27.96.223.192 (talk) 10:05, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

  If March Madness is allowed, i see no reason for it not be, specially when its a notable event that has various articles about it, even Major League Baseball has wrote a article about the tournament and its relevancy. Meganinja202 (talk) 12:21, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose We really should not be posting any amateur level sports in the first place, but keep in mind that for March Madness, the huge number of people that watch that across the globe has an impact of why we post it. However, that definitely cannot be said for a high school-level tournament that has little global coverage. --Masem (t) 12:44, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

  how about highly cultural events principle? Summer Koshien is a very important tournament culturallly in Japan and its known around the world in part by various productions made about the tournament (check In popular culture) Meganinja202 (talk) 16:24, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose good faith nom, but not known or covered globally as a sporting event. Natg 19 (talk) 15:39, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

  had you guys checked the The popular culture tab ??? it is litteraly known by many forms not just by the direct broadcast of the tournament itself, I am sure lot of people know about the tournament thanks to ace of diamond or major Meganinja202 (talk) 16:19, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

  As I mention below, these 2 mangas/animes are still Japanese coverage, which does not demonstrate worldwide or global significance. Natg 19 (talk) 17:14, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Not important enough for ITN. Tradedia^talk 16:04, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose nowhere near meeting ITN significence criteria, not least because there isn't even a separate article for the event (the linked article is to the general event Japanese High School Baseball Championship which barely mentions it. This feels like a WP:SNOW close. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:25, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

  Theres a group of users (including myself) that updates stuffs about the tournament annually, but is not dedicated enough to make annual articles about the tournament, i dont know if counts but the ja and the zh|the zh language wikis has separated article every year , i plan to translate them in a future when i have more of a free time Meganinja202 (talk) 16:37, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

  There is no need for you to reply to every other oppose !vote. Please stop. _{Duly signed,} ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 16:50, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

  I am replying beacuse it seems clearly some editors dont know about the cultural impact of the tournament, litteraly a person made its judgement saying that he feels "there has not much enough articles" about the tournament, i feel that without a counterpoint, it may be a unfair vote...
  I heared that the ITN people were too demanding, but i feel that is TOO MUCH demanding and request shoud be put more thought into it, sprecialy due its cultural impact Meganinja202 (talk) 17:03, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

  There is a cultural aspect, but it is still within Japan, and covered in Japanese media or Japanese entertainment. ITN tries to highlight events that have a worldwide/international impact or approach, and unfortunately Summer Koshien does not meet the bar. There are few news articles outside of Japan covering the results of this tournament. Natg 19 (talk) 17:12, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose The nomination has multiple issue. First of all, the topic is quite niche and appears to have no international coverage. Second, there is no independent article on the just finished season. Third, the nominated article is in a poor shape as the majority of the content in the article is unsourced. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:28, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

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August 22

Portal:Current events/2024 August 22

August 22, 2024 (2024-08-22) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Israeli incursions in Tulkarm An Israeli drone strike kills three Palestinians in Tulkarm in the West Bank, during a raid where IDF soldiers set fire to civilian homes and used bulldozers to destroy residential areas. (Al Jazeera) Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip Eleven Palestinians are killed and six others are injured in an Israeli strike on a residential building in Beit Lahiya in the Gaza Strip. (DW) Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine A ferry carrying 30 fuel tanks sinks in the port of Kavkaz, in Krasnodar Krai, Russia, following a Ukrainian attack. (Reuters) The International Atomic Energy Agency announces an investigation of the Kursk Nuclear Power Plant following accusations from Russia that a Ukrainian drone targeted the power plant. (Reuters) Boko Haram insurgency Suspected Boko Haram militants kill 13 farmers in Shiroro, Niger State, Nigeria. (Barron's) At least eleven police officers are killed in an ambush on a convoy by armed attackers near Rahim Yar Khan, Punjab, Pakistan. (Sky News) Arts and culture The government of Botswana presents to the public a 2,492-carat raw diamond, discovered by the Lucara diamond and mining company from the Karowe diamond mine, and said to be the second largest in the world. (AP) (The Guardian) Business and economy 2024 Canada railway shutdown Canadian National Railway and Canadian Pacific Kansas City lock out roughly 10,000 unionized railroad workers in Canada, leading to a railway stoppage that impacts many North American supply chains and may cost the economy of Canada C$341 million per day. (Reuters) In response to the railway stoppage, Canadian labour minister Steven MacKinnon refers the two disputes to binding arbitration. (CBC News) Disasters and accidents 2023–2024 South American drought 2024 Brazil wildfires Nearly 1,500 firefighters are dispatched to contain intense wildfires that are causing dense hazardous smoke to fully "engulf" Porto Velho, Rondônia, Brazil, with the total number of wildfires in Brazil reaching 59,000 since the start of the year. (The Guardian) Thai Flying Service Flight 209 Nine people are killed when a Cessna 208 Caravan crashes into a mangrove forest in Chachoengsao shortly after taking off from Suvarnabhumi Airport in Bangkok, Thailand. (AP) (The Nation Thailand) Eleven people are killed after a boat carrying migrants capsize while trying to cross the Drina river from Serbia to Bosnia and Herzegovina. (Reuters) Seven people are killed and 12 others are injured after a fire at a hotel in Bucheon, Gyeonggi Province, South Korea. (The Nation Thailand) Health and environment 2023–2024 mpox epidemic Burundi reports 171 new mpox cases, bringing the total number of cases in the country to 572 cases. (Barron's) Sri Lanka reports its first two cases of mpox, but does not specify the clade the cases are from. (Dhauru) International relations Belarus–China relations Belarus and China agree to greatly strengthen mutual trade, financial, energy, and security cooperation, which includes enhancing industrial supply chains and collaboration with the Guangdong-Hong Kong-Macau Greater Bay Area. (Reuters) Law and crime Treatment of women by the Taliban The Taliban bans women from singing, reciting poetry, or reading aloud in public and mandates that women must wear a veil in public under new laws approved by the Supreme Leader as part of efforts to combat "vice" and promote "virtue". (Al Arabiya) Politics and elections 2024 Indonesian local election law protests, 2024 Indonesian local elections Thousands of people gather outside the House of Representatives in Jakarta, Indonesia, as well as in other major cities across the country, to protest attempted changes to local elections law that would benefit the ruling coalition, in defiance of two recent Constitutional Court decisions. (BBC News) Police fire tear gas and water cannons at protesters attempting to storm the House of Representatives, prompting the Parliament to delay and eventually cancel the vote on the proposed changes. (AP) 2024 Venezuelan presidential election The Supreme Court of Venezuela certifies the results of the 2024 presidential election, denying claims that opposition candidate Edmundo González Urrutia won the election. (AP) Human rights in Afghanistan, Afghanistan and the United Nations The Taliban prohibits Richard Bennett, the United Nations special rapporteur on human rights in Afghanistan, from entering the country, accusing him of spreading propaganda. (DW)

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(Posted) RD: Sphen

Article: Sphen and Magic (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS News
Credits:

• Nominated by 193.165.236.224 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Notable pair of penguins, article seems to be in good shape. 193.165.236.224 (talk) 13:16, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support the article has been significantly updated and there is specific coverage of the death of Sphen. As such, I believe this meets the threshold of ITN. Note: a separate article is not required for ITNRD, as per Individuals who do not have their own article but who have significant coverage on an article about a group (e.g. one member of a musical group) are eligible for a recent deaths entry on a case-by-case basis., which I believe is met here. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:22, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support RIP to one of the most unusual queer icons. The article is in a good shape and looks ready to be posted however, his death was announced yesterday as I read it in the today's morning paper. I think this entry should be moved to August 22nd. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:20, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Done. Natg 19 (talk) 17:25, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

• Posted -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:41, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Canada railroad shutdown

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Article: 2024 Canada railroad shutdown (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Canadian rail freight traffic shuts down after the Canadian National Railway Company and Canadian Pacific Kansas City fail to reach an agreement with the Teamsters union. (Post)
News source(s): The Wall Street Journal
Credits:

• Nominated by ElijahPepe (talk · give credit)

• Oppose the article is literally 2 sentences long. RachelTensions (talk) 05:46, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose article is a stub and news is not something that is blurbworthy. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 09:19, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Rail strikes are not unusual and I don't see that this one is particularly more noteworthy. Black Kite (talk) 09:21, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Article is a stub and such events are not uncommon. Editor 5426387 (talk) 13:18, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Article is currently a stub, and noteworthiness has not been demonstrated. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 13:34, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Weak Oppose The article is a stub which makes this nom a non-starter. In terms of notability, as a Canadian, this is big news in my city and is being very widely discussed. However, I accept that it is currently regional news and thus not sufficiently notable for ITN. If the rail strike persists and causes a cascading economic impact, we should revisit. Flip^andFlopped ツ 14:15, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability, once the article is properly expanded. As the WaPo headline says, Huge Canadian railway work stoppage threatens U.S. economy. Nsk92 (talk) 14:46, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose — Local dispute. STSC (talk)
• Oppose as the article is a stub. However, if the strike ends up causing significant economic damage, then I might reconsider. Gödel2200 (talk) 17:27, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose The shutdown didn't even last a day. Johndavies837 (talk) 00:52, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Mike Lynch

Article: Mike Lynch (businessman) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Kcmastrpc (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Bayesian (yacht) sinking victim that was missing has been found. –  Kcmastrpc (talk) 12:17, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Support Article looks detailed and well sourced. Flyingfishee (talk) 13:10, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Support With the blurb nom closed, we should promptly RD this. Flip^andFlopped ツ 15:23, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

• Posted Looks solid to me. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:43, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment So the story is evolving now into a criminal investigation. I don’t know if this rises to the level of ITN blurb; but it’s certainly interesting. Kcmastrpc (talk) 14:42, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

  I would say not... it's in the news, and generating lots of headlines, but the lasting impact and wider effects of this are fairly limited.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:57, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

August 21

Portal:Current events/2024 August 21

August 21, 2024 (2024-08-21) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine August 2024 Kursk Oblast incursion The Ukrainian military reports that it used United States-made weapons to destroy several pontoon bridges constructed by Russia following its destruction of at least three bridges over the Seym river in Kursk Oblast. (Reuters) Mayor of Moscow Sergey Sobyanin states that Ukraine launched one of its largest drone attacks on the Russian capital, and claims that all drones were taken down without casualties or damage based on preliminary information. (Reuters) Eastern Ukraine campaign Pokrovsk offensive The Russian Ministry of Defense states it has fully captured the village of Zhelanne in Donetsk Oblast, Ukraine. (Anadolu Agency) Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy acknowledges advancements made by Russian Armed Forces on the Pokrovsk front, and announces the strengthening of regional Ukrainian positions in order to resist further advancements. (Reuters) Islamist insurgency in the Sahel Burkina Faso, Mali, and Niger write to the United Nations Security Council to denounce Ukrainian support for rebel groups in the Sahel region of West Africa. (Reuters) Israel–Hamas war 2024 Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel Hamas fires two rockets from the Gaza Strip with sirens sounding in Sderot, Ibim, and Nir Am. (Middle East Monitor) Israeli incursions in the West Bank during the Israel–Hamas war, Israel–Hezbollah conflict, Israeli–Palestinian conflict One injured in Hezbollah launching 50 rockets, drone strikes and shelling on IDF's Tsnobar logistics site and several other IDF sites in the Golan Heights and Zar'it in northern Israel.(Al Jazeera) A Syrian national and Khalil al-Muqdah, a commander in the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, is killed in an Israeli airstrike in Sidon and Khiam in southern Lebanon. (Al Jazeera) (Al Jazeera) One killed and two injured in an Israeli airstrikes on a Hezbollah ammunition depot, an air defense system and the villages of Abu Sash, Wadi Hamool, Aita al-Shaab, Ramiya and Talousa of the Beqaa Valley. (Al Jazeera) Somali Civil War Nine people, including five security officers and four civilians are killed and dozens are injured in an Al-Shabaab suicide car bomb attack on a security checkpoint on the Mogadishu–Afgoye highway in Somalia. (Daily Post Nigeria) Business and economy Unemployment in the United States The United States Department of Labor issues a significant estimate correction stating that the U.S. economy added 818,000 fewer jobs between April 2023 and March 2024 than what was initially reported in July, the largest estimate revision since 2009. (AP) (CNBC) 2024 Canada railway shutdown Canada's two largest freight railroads Canadian Pacific Kansas City and Canadian National Railway announce a complete shutdown of services due to a contract dispute, shutting out its Teamsters-represented union workers. (Reuters) (AP) With regards to the rapid growth of the artificial intelligence market, Bloomberg alleges that technology companies are "concealing their actual carbon footprints" by invoking outdated emissions accounting rules. (Bloomberg) Disasters and accidents Atchutapuram pharmaceutical factory explosion At least seventeen workers are killed and 41 others are injured, many from severe chemical burns, in an explosion at a pharmaceutical facility in Anakapalli, Andhra Pradesh, India. (Indian Express) (NDTV) Twenty-eight people are killed and 23 others are injured when a bus carrying Shia Pakistani pilgrims to the Arba'in pilgrimage in Iraq crashes and overturns in Yazd province, Iran. (Reuters) Four bodies are recovered from the superyacht Bayesian that sank two days ago, bringing the death toll to five. The search for the last missing person is ongoing. (Reuters) Health and environment 2023–2024 mpox epidemic Thailand reports its first case of mpox in a 66-year-old European man who worked in an African country affected by the ongoing epidemic. (The New York Times) Several suspected cases of mpox clade 1b are reported in Somerset, England, United Kingdom. (Devon Live) Honduras reports five suspected cases of the new mpox clade. (Prensa Libre) Law and crime Hungary and the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Hungary–Ukraine relations A Hungarian law restricting or removing state support and accommodations for Ukrainian refugees not from regions directly affected by the Russian invasion comes into effect. (BBC News) Sanski Most school shooting Three staff members are killed in a mass shooting at a school in Sanski Most, Bosnia and Herzegovina. The perpetrator, who also worked at the school, is seriously injured after shooting himself. (AP) Four people, including three children, are killed in a house fire in Bradford, England, United Kingdom. Police say that the fire was started deliberately and that a suspect has been arrested under suspicion of murder. (BBC News) Politics and elections International reactions to the 2024 Venezuelan presidential election The United States drafts a punitive sanctions list of sixty Venezuelan government officials from the country's National Electoral Council, Supreme Court, and counterintelligence police agency for alleged electoral fraud. (Reuters) The Ukrainian parliament approves the Rome Statute treaty established by the International Criminal Court, thereby allowing the country to become a state party once the government ratifies with the Secretary-General of the United Nations. (Ukrinform)

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RD: David Anfam

Article: David Anfam (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ARTnews
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:7157:6A0D:C1D6:975F (talk · give credit)
• Created by Strattonsmith (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit) and Strattonsmith (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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English art historian, curator and author. 240F:7A:6253:1:7157:6A0D:C1D6:975F (talk) 11:47, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Weak Support while article is fully sourced and meets bare minimum requirement, I would still suggest a bit more expansion. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 16:29, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Roger Cook

Article: Roger Cook (landscaper) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): This Old House's website
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:5D40:44D2:9C5E:9E6 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Seasider53 (talk · give credit) and Dmoore5556 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American landscaper and star of This Old House. 240F:7A:6253:1:5D40:44D2:9C5E:9E6 (talk) 15:11, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Weak Oppose the article needs a bit more expansion and there are couple of issues with some of the cited sources such as a Facebook source. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:36, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Nick Mileti

Article: Nick Mileti (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS Sports
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:5D40:44D2:9C5E:9E6 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TheCorriynial (talk · give credit), Normantas Bataitis (talk · give credit), Bob305 (talk · give credit) and Vycl1994 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Founder of Cleveland Cavaliers. 240F:7A:6253:1:5D40:44D2:9C5E:9E6 (talk) 13:33, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose couple of paragraphs ending without a footnote and Publications sections sourcing. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:38, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Al Attles

Article: Al Attles (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

• Nominated by Natg 19 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by CalDoesIt (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Former NBA player and coach. In good shape. Natg 19 (talk) 00:13, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Support article appears alright to me. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 09:18, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Support Sufficient quality.—Bagumba (talk) 10:55, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

• Posted -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:48, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bill Pascrell

Article: Bill Pascrell (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Member of the US House – Muboshgu (talk) 16:24, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article seems well sourced and no tags on it. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 17:17, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Wait there are couple of paragraphs ending without a footnote and Caucus memberships section needs more sourcing. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:23, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Support article is ready now. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 09:09, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support @PrinceofPunjab: Fixed up sourcing issues. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:42, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:54, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Nell McCafferty

Article: Nell McCafferty (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Irish Times
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:6C49:608C:B2F6:5005 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by INgIEroC (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Irish journalist and feminist campainger. 240F:7A:6253:1:6C49:608C:B2F6:5005 (talk) 13:41, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose early life section is unsourced and so are some of the other paragraphs. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:24, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

I've updated some of the references to be up to date now @PrinceofPunjab Duck Dur (talk) 21:44, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

@Duck Dur early life section still needs a bit more sources and Bibliography section is missing ISBN codes. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 09:07, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

I will update them later today Duck Dur (talk) 11:50, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) 2024 Yemen floods

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Article: 2024 Yemen floods (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Floods in western Yemen results in the deaths of at least 61 people and the displacement of 6,042 families (Post)
News source(s): Anadolu Agency
Credits:

• Nominated by Abo Yemen (talk · give credit)
• Created by Noble Attempt (talk · give credit)

Abo Yemen✉ 12:32, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support The floods are a notable event, and the article is thorough enough for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 13:08, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support death toll is significant enough and article is in a good shape. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:25, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Upon further thinking, I change my vote to Oppose now too due to insufficient updates. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 09:10, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

• Last update was for August 18. Stephen 19:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Doesn't seem to be in the news. A news search for "flooding" turns up stories about recent flooding in the Balearics, Bangladesh, Connecticut, Korea, Japan, Sudan, etc. Not seeing anything at all about Yemen. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:46, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per Andrew Davidson. Flip^andFlopped ツ 14:17, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose The article does not make it clear that significant flooding has occurred very recently, and the death toll applies to floods more generally taking place throughout July and August. Gödel2200 (talk) 17:25, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Support on notability. BilboBeggins (talk) 21:34, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

• Stale There's worldwide coverage of this--- more than a week ago. That's when this should have been posted. --Masem (t) 21:45, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
• Stale per above This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 22:18, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

August 20

Portal:Current events/2024 August 20

August 20, 2024 (2024-08-20) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine August 2024 Kursk Oblast incursion Russian military sources claim that Ukrainian forces have destroyed or damaged all three bridges over the Seym river in western Russia, potentially trapping Russian forces between the river, the Ukrainian border, and advancing Ukrainian forces. (AP) Eastern Ukraine campaign Pokrovsk offensive, Battle of Toretsk Russia claims that its forces have taken control of the settlement of New York in Donetsk Oblast, Ukraine. (Reuters) Ukraine says that Russian forces are launching heavy attacks on the Toretsk and Pokrovsk fronts. (Reuters) Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure Ternopil residents are urged to remain indoors after Russian drone strikes an industrial facility, causing a large fire and an increased concentration of chlorine in the air. (Reuters) (The Kyiv Indepenent) Israel–Hamas war Israel–Hamas war hostage crisis The Israel Defense Forces recover the bodies of six hostages who were kidnapped by Hamas in the initial October 7, 2023 attack, including Alex Dancyg, from the Khan Younis area in Gaza. (Reuters) Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip At least twelve Palestinians, including two children, are killed in an Israeli airstrike on a school used to shelter displaced people in Gaza City. (Middle East Eye) Israel–Hezbollah conflict The Israeli Air Force launches airstrikes on the Hezbollah stronghold of Baalbek in the Beqaa Valley in Lebanon. (Haaretz) Four people are killed and two others are injured by Israeli strikes in Daraya, Mount Lebanon Governorate, Lebanon, according to the Lebanese Health Ministry. In response, Hezbollah launches 55 drone strikes on 3 IDF positions in the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights. (Arab News) Disasters and accidents At least 20 bodies are recovered from the Lukenie River in Mai-Ndombe Province, Democratic Republic of the Congo, following the capsizing of a boat carrying around 300 passengers over the weekend. At least 46 people are rescued and about 250 others remain missing. (AP) Health and environment 2023–2024 mpox epidemic The Ivory Coast reports 21 new cases of mpox as well as the country's first death from mpox. (La Presse) A Liberia-flagged ship on the Paraná River near Rosario, Argentina, is quarantined after suspected cases of mpox are detected on the ship. The Argentine Health Ministry subsequently activates an emergency protocol against mpox. (Reuters) (CNN) Malawi declares mpox a public health emergency, following growing concerns and a reported probable case of mpox in the country. (MBC Malawi) International relations Azerbaijan–Russia relations Azerbaijan formally applies to join the BRICS economic bloc following a meeting between President Ilham Aliyev and Russian President Vladimir Putin in Baku, Azerbaijan. Aliyev also approves US$120 million to expand Russian–Azerbaijani cargo trade. (AP) Germany–Iran relations Following the ordered closure of the Islamic Centre Hamburg in Hamburg, Germany, Iran orders the closure of two branches of a German language school in Tehran for "breaching Iranian law, committing various illegal actions and extensive financial violations." In response, Germany summons the Iranian ambassador. (DW) Haiti–United States relations, Illegal drug trade in Haiti The United States Treasury Department imposes sanctions on musician and former Haitian President Michel Joseph Martelly for allegedly using his influence to facilitate drug trafficking in the country as well as into the United States. (Al Jazeera) North Korea–South Korea relations A North Korean staff sergeant defects to South Korea after crossing the Korean Demilitarized Zone into Goseong County, Gangwon, and is taken into South Korean custody. (Reuters) Law and crime Israel–Hamas war protests in the United States Several pro-Palestinian demonstrators are arrested after protestors clashed with police near the Israeli consulate in Chicago, Illinois, United States, on the second night of the Democratic National Convention. (AP) Law of Ukraine "On the Protection of the Constitutional Order in the Field of Activities of Religious Organizations" Ukrainian lawmakers pass a bill to ban the activities of all Russia-associated religious groups across Ukraine, including the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, following arrests of dozens of the church's clerics on treason charges for alleged involvement in Russian espionage and the transfer of a cleric to Russia in a prisoner swap. (Reuters) (AP) Suspected serial killer Collins Jumaisi Khalusha, accused of murdering 42 women, escapes from police custody in Nairobi, Kenya. (Al Jazeera) The Taliban's virtue ministry dismisses 281 members of the security force for failing to grow a beard and announces that they also destroyed 21,328 musical instruments in the past year and prevented thousands of computer operators from selling "immoral and unethical" films in markets. (Al Arabiya) Science and technology BMW recalls more than 720,000 vehicles due to an electrical issue with the vehicle's water pump that could potentially cause a vehicle fire. (AP)

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RD: Maryvonne Le Dizès (needs attention)

Article: Maryvonne Le Dizès (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Strad
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)
• Created by Rigg (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Violinist of the Ensemble intercontemporain for more than 20 years, collaborating with founder Pierre Boulez and other composers, commissioning new works, teaching for decades - and had no article until her death became known on 20 August (only one in Russian which we didn't consult). There could be more detail about recordings but I'm out for the day. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:19, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Support article looks good enough to me. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 16:32, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Support 750h+ 11:00, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Support Well-sourced. Have added some recordings. Date of death as yet unclear. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:27, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Atsuko Tanaka

Article: Atsuko Tanaka (voice actress) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Official Statement by Hikaru Tanaka on Twitter
Credits:

• Nominated by Tofusaurus (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Miraclepine (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Japanese voice actress. Tofusaurus (talk) 13:16, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

• Comment if you take out the tables with her roles, there is very little article left. JA-wiki seems to have more thorough information about her life that could be translated and used.Jaguarnik (talk) 17:34, 20 August 2024 (UTC) Support, the article has been made much better.Jaguarnik (talk) 03:39, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment I’ve tagged the article as a stub. Schwede66 07:56, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose surprised at the almost fully sourced filmography tables, but article needs a bit more prose. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:35, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support I've added a lot of sourced prose translated from the jawiki page; should be of sufficient quality. ミラP@Miraclepine 23:59, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 18:44, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Sam Landsberger

Article: Sam Landsberger (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4], [5]
Credits:

• Nominated by Happily888 (talk · give credit)
• Created by Totallynotarandomalt69 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Happily888 (talk) 12:01, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose article is barely a stub. Natg 19 (talk) 16:23, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Tragic, but there is almost no prose to the article. I can count the sentences in it on my fingers. Not good nor lengthy enough for RD. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 01:38, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose article is a stub. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:34, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose stub article with practically no information about his life, created after death, borderline notability if any. Black Kite (talk) 09:23, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Maria Branyas

Article: Maria Branyas (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS News, El País
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:900E:954A:2704:19B9 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by MIDI (talk · give credit) and INgIEroC (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American-born Spanish supercentenarian. 240F:7A:6253:1:900E:954A:2704:19B9 (talk) 11:44, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Oldest Living Person, RIP MyriadSims (talk) 14:32, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Oldest person alive dies is notable. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 17:18, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Article is good and sourced, has been since previous title holder died. And we did list her in RD. TheCorriynial (talk) 17:36, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support A good article with biography and archive photos. Trepang2 (talk) 19:05, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support page meets requirements. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 21:28, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Memory eternal. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:38, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
• Post posting support RIP, article quality appears fine. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 23:02, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

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