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Redirects for discussion (RfD) is the place where potentially problematic redirects are discussed. Items usually stay listed for a week or so, after which they are deleted, kept, or retargeted.
- If you want to replace an unprotected redirect with an article, do not list it here. Turning redirects into articles is wholly encouraged. Be bold!
- If you want to move a page but a redirect is in the way, do not list it here. For non-controversial cases, place a technical request; if a discussion is required, then start a requested move.
- If you think a redirect points to the wrong target article, this is a good place to discuss what should be the proper target.
- Redirects should not be deleted just because they have no incoming links. Please do not use this as the only reason to delete a redirect. However, redirects that do have incoming links are sometimes deleted, so that is not a sufficient condition for keeping. (See § When should we delete a redirect? for more information.)
Please do not unilaterally rename or change the target of a redirect while it is under discussion. This adds unnecessary complication to the discussion for participants and closers.
Before listing a redirect for discussion[edit]
Please be aware of these general policies, which apply here as elsewhere:
- Wikipedia:Redirect – what redirects are, why they exist, and how they are used.
- Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion – which pages can be deleted without discussion; in particular the "General" and "Redirects" sections.
- Wikipedia:Deletion policy – how we delete things by consensus.
- Wikipedia:Guide to deletion – guidelines on discussion format and shorthand.
The guiding principles of RfD[edit]
- The purpose of a good redirect is to eliminate the possibility that readers will find themselves staring blankly at "Search results 1–10 out of 378" instead of the article they were looking for. If someone could plausibly enter the redirect's name when searching for the target article, it's a good redirect.
- Redirects are cheap. They take up little storage space and use very little bandwidth. It doesn't really hurt things if there are a few of them scattered around. On the flip side, deleting redirects is also cheap because recording the deletion takes up little storage space and uses very little bandwidth. There is no harm in deleting problematic redirects.
- If a good-faith RfD nomination proposes to delete a redirect and has no discussion after at least 7 days, the default result is delete.
- Redirects nominated in contravention of Wikipedia:Redirect will be speedily kept.
- RfD can also serve as a central discussion forum for debates about which page a redirect should target. In cases where retargeting the redirect could be considered controversial, it is advisable to leave a notice on the talk page of the redirect's current target page or the proposed target page to refer readers to the redirect's nomination to allow input and help form consensus for the redirect's target.
- Requests for deletion of redirects from one page's talk page to another's do not need to be listed here. Anyone can remove the redirect by blanking the page. The G6 criterion for speedy deletion may be appropriate.
- In discussions, always ask yourself whether or not a redirect would be helpful to the reader.
When should we delete a redirect?[edit]
This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Redirect/Deletion reasons. (edit | history) |
The major reasons why deletion of redirects is harmful are:
- a redirect may contain non-trivial edit history;
- if a redirect is reasonably old (or is the result of moving a page that has been there for quite some time), then it is possible that its deletion will break incoming links (such links coming from older revisions of Wikipedia pages, from edit summaries, from other Wikimedia projects or from elsewhere on the internet, do not show up in "What links here").
Therefore consider the deletion only of either harmful redirects or of recent ones.
Reasons for deleting[edit]
You might want to delete a redirect if one or more of the following conditions is met (but note also the exceptions listed below this list):
- The redirect page makes it unreasonably difficult for users to locate similarly named articles via the search engine. For example, if the user searches for "New Articles", and is redirected to a disambiguation page for "Articles", it would take much longer to get to the newly added articles on Wikipedia.
- The redirect might cause confusion. For example, if "Adam B. Smith" was redirected to "Andrew B. Smith", because Andrew was accidentally called Adam in one source, this could cause confusion with the article on Adam Smith, so the redirect should be deleted.
- The redirect is offensive or abusive, such as redirecting "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" to "Joe Bloggs" (unless "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" is legitimately discussed in the article), or "Joe Bloggs" to "Loser". (Speedy deletion criterion G10 and G3 may apply.) See also § Neutrality of redirects.
- The redirect constitutes self-promotion or spam. (Speedy deletion criterion G11 may apply.)
- The redirect makes no sense, such as redirecting "Apple" to "Orange". (Speedy deletion criterion G1 may apply.)
- It is a cross-namespace redirect out of article space, such as one pointing into the User or Wikipedia namespace. The major exception to this rule are the pseudo-namespace shortcut redirects, which technically are in the main article space. Some long-standing cross-namespace redirects are also kept because of their long-standing history and potential usefulness. "MOS:" redirects, for example, are an exception to this rule. (Note also the existence of namespace aliases such as WP:. Speedy deletion criterion R2 may apply if the target namespace is something other than Category:, Template:, Wikipedia:, Help:, or Portal:.)
- If the redirect is broken, meaning it redirects to an article that does not exist, it can be immediately deleted under speedy deletion criterion G8. You should check that there is not an alternative place it could be appropriately redirected to first and that it has not become broken through vandalism.
- If the redirect is a novel or very obscure synonym for an article name that is not mentioned in the target, it is unlikely to be useful. In particular, redirects in a language other than English to a page whose subject is unrelated to that language (or a culture that speaks that language) should generally not be created. (Implausible typos or misnomers are candidates for speedy deletion criterion R3, if recently created.)
- If the target article needs to be moved to the redirect title, but the redirect has been edited before and has a history of its own, then the title needs to be freed up to make way for the move. If the move is uncontroversial, tag the redirect for G6 speedy deletion, or alternatively (with the
suppressredirect
user right; available to page movers and admins), perform a round-robin move. If not, take the article to Requested moves. - If the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject.
Reasons for not deleting[edit]
However, avoid deleting such redirects if:
- They have a potentially useful page history, or an edit history that should be kept to comply with the licensing requirements for a merge (see Wikipedia:Merge and delete). On the other hand, if the redirect was created by renaming a page with that name, and the page history just mentions the renaming, and for one of the reasons above you want to delete the page, copy the page history to the Talk page of the article it redirects to. The act of renaming is useful page history, and even more so if there has been discussion on the page name.
- They would aid accidental linking and make the creation of duplicate articles less likely, whether by redirecting a plural to a singular, by redirecting a frequent misspelling to a correct spelling, by redirecting a misnomer to a correct term, by redirecting to a synonym, etc. In other words, redirects with no incoming links are not candidates for deletion on those grounds because they are of benefit to the browsing user. Some extra vigilance by editors will be required to minimize the occurrence of those frequent misspellings in the article texts because the linkified misspellings will not appear as broken links; consider tagging the redirect with the {{R from misspelling}} template to assist editors in monitoring these misspellings.
- They aid searches on certain terms. For example, users who might see the "Keystone State" mentioned somewhere but do not know what that refers to will be able to find out at the Pennsylvania (target) article.
- Deleting redirects runs the risk of breaking incoming or internal links. For example, redirects resulting from page moves should not normally be deleted without good reason. Links that have existed for a significant length of time, including CamelCase links (e.g. WolVes) and old subpage links, should be left alone in case there are any existing links on external pages pointing to them. See also Wikipedia:Link rot § Link rot on non-Wikimedia sites.
- Someone finds them useful. Hint: If someone says they find a redirect useful, they probably do. You might not find it useful—this is not because the other person is being untruthful, but because you browse Wikipedia in different ways. Evidence of usage can be gauged by using the wikishark or pageviews tool on the redirect to see the number of views it gets.
- The redirect is to a closely related word form, such as a plural form to a singular form.
Neutrality of redirects[edit]
Just as article titles using non-neutral language are permitted in some circumstances, so are such redirects. Because redirects are less visible to readers, more latitude is allowed in their names, therefore perceived lack of neutrality in redirect names is not a sufficient reason for their deletion. In most cases, non-neutral but verifiable redirects should point to neutrally titled articles about the subject of the term. Non-neutral redirects may be tagged with {{R from non-neutral name}}
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Non-neutral redirects are commonly created for three reasons:
- Articles that are created using non-neutral titles are routinely moved to a new neutral title, which leaves behind the old non-neutral title as a working redirect (e.g. Climategate → Climatic Research Unit email controversy).
- Articles created as POV forks may be deleted and replaced by a redirect pointing towards the article from which the fork originated (e.g. Barack Obama Muslim rumor → deleted and now redirected to Barack Obama religion conspiracy theories).
- The subject matter of articles may be represented by some sources outside Wikipedia in non-neutral terms. Such terms are generally avoided in Wikipedia article titles, per the words to avoid guidelines and the general neutral point of view policy. For instance the non-neutral expression "Attorneygate" is used to redirect to the neutrally titled Dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy. The article in question has never used that title, but the redirect was created to provide an alternative means of reaching it because a number of press reports use the term.
The exceptions to this rule would be redirects that are not established terms and are unlikely to be useful, and therefore may be nominated for deletion, perhaps under deletion reason #3. However, if a redirect represents an established term that is used in multiple mainstream reliable sources, it should be kept even if non-neutral, as it will facilitate searches on such terms. Please keep in mind that RfD is not the place to resolve most editorial disputes.
Closing notes[edit]
- Details at Administrator instructions for RfD
Nominations should remain open, per policy, about a week before they are closed, unless they meet the general criteria for speedy deletion, the criteria for speedy deletion of a redirect, or are not valid redirect discussion requests (e.g. are actually move requests).
How to list a redirect for discussion[edit]
STEP I. | Tag the redirect(s).
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STEP II. | List the entry on RfD.
Click here to edit the section of RfD for today's entries.
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STEP III. | Notify users.
It is generally considered good practice to notify the creator and main contributors of the redirect(s) that you nominate. may be placed on the creator/main contributors' user talk page to provide notice of the discussion. Please replace RedirectName with the name of the respective creator/main contributors' redirect and use an edit summary such as: Notice of redirect discussion at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion]]
Notices about the RfD discussion may also be left on relevant talk pages. |
- Please consider using What links here to locate other redirects that may be related to the one you are nominating. After going to the redirect target page and selecting "What links here" in the toolbox on the left side of your computer screen, select both "Hide transclusions" and "Hide links" filters to display the redirects to the redirect target page.
If this page has been recently modified, it may not reflect the most recent changes. Please purge this page to view the most recent changes. |
Current list[edit]
July 13[edit]
Speedy Mouse[edit]
- Speedy Mouse → Ultra-Leicht Flugtechnik Speedy Mouse (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I searched it in Google, and most may refer to Speedy Gonzales. Should we retarget to Speedy Gonzales or make a disambiguation? 88.235.215.238 (talk) 06:32, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- I can get behind disambiguation. My google searches don't bring up either the current or suggested targets prominently though, I get a lot of mice that happen to be quick, particularly cat toys, and other random stuff. I do find hits for rollercoasters mentioned at Dream World (Thailand)#Dream Garden and Barry's Amusements#Former attractions though. Thryduulf (talk) 08:17, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
Imperial Royalty[edit]
- Imperial Royalty → Imperial Majesty (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This term does not appear in the target article. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:58, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- I guess Royalty and Majesty are somewhat synonymous. Josethewikier (talk) 02:59, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per above, since both words are synonymous. CycloneYoris talk! 04:03, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
AC4460CW[edit]
Invasion of Mexico[edit]
- Invasion of Mexico → Mexican–American War (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Overly broad term; no evidence that it is linked only to this specific war. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:47, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. If there are other wars this term might describe, this one is overwhelming likely to be the one intended. The others can be listed in a disambiguation page linked on a hat note. Shankar Sivarajan (talk) 03:25, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep or disambig. Other things referred to by this term according to my searches include United States occupation of Veracruz, Spanish conquest of the Aztec Empire (redirect from Spanish conquest of Mexico), Pastry War and Second French intervention in Mexico. If there is a primary topic then it is the current target but I'm not completely convinced there is. Thryduulf (talk) 08:29, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
Micropropaganda[edit]
- Micropropaganda → Microaggression (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This term does not appear in the target article. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:40, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
Jah Morant[edit]
This name variation does not appear in the target article. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:38, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
Formicapunk[edit]
- Formicapunk → Cyberpunk derivatives#Cassette futurism/Formicapunk (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Cassette futurism → Cyberpunk derivatives#Cassette futurism/Formicapunk (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
These terms do not appear in the target article. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:36, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
Verlag für Sozialwissenschaften[edit]
- Verlag für Sozialwissenschaften → Springer Science+Business Media (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- VS Verlag für Sozialwissenschaften → Springer Science+Business Media (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
These terms do not appear in the target article. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:33, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
Nueva Mexicanas[edit]
- Nueva Mexicanas → Hispanos of New Mexico (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Nuevo Mexicanas → Hispanos of New Mexico (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Nueva Mexicana → Hispanos of New Mexico (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
These terms do not appear in the target article. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:19, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. This is a plausibly confused term for "Nuevomexicanos" (which does appear) for people searching for Spanish phrases in the English language Wikipedia. Shankar Sivarajan (talk) 03:30, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
July 12[edit]
Moo Moo Meadows[edit]
- Moo Moo Meadows → Mario Kart Wii (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned in the target. Mia Mahey (talk) 21:39, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as track from game. mwwv converse∫edits 03:59, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
Mario Circuit[edit]
- Mario Circuit → Mario Kart (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned in the target. Mia Mahey (talk) 21:38, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as track from game. mwwv converse∫edits 03:59, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
Bolsover (borough)[edit]
- Bolsover (borough) → Bolsover District (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete, neither the current non-metropolitan district at Bolsover District nor the previous district Bolsover Urban District hold/have healed borough status. Yes Google searches in quotes for "Bolsover Borough Council" will return results but the same is the case for "Braintree Borough Council" and "Harlow Borough Council". This is different to Chesterfield (borough) and Chesterfield Borough Council that go to Borough of Chesterfield that does have borough status along with the previous district Municipal Borough of Chesterfield. Its normal for districts that have borough status to have redirects from "Foo (district)" but not redirects for "Foo (borough)" when the district doesn't have borough status. Yes there are links to the redirect but they can be changed to the correct target and it appears to only have been at this title for a few weeks in 2004 when it was corrected and moved. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:31, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Simply the result of an error I made briefly over a little over 20 years ago. Seems entirely reasonable to delete. Morwen (talk) 00:10, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Given the internet hits for "Bolover borough" and "Borough of Bolsover" this is a common enough error to merit a {{R from incorrect name}} redirect. See e.g page 11 of this PDF where the local Conservative Party calls it "Borough of Bolsover". We educate people making this sort of mistake by taking them to the content they are looking for that explains the correct situation rather than making them jump through hoops to find it. Thryduulf (talk) 08:04, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
Teemo[edit]
Not mentioned; delete unless a suitable target can be found. Queen of Hearts talk 17:48, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Before Arcane, one of the main "mascots" of League. Useful if someone wants to know where the naming of Gothus Teemo comes from for an example in wider culture of just last week. (Note that Teemo probably could be mentioned, but as a Featured Article, the League article is maintained pretty strictly, so it might be arguably under-inclusive in the name of keeping the highest level of sourcing.) SnowFire (talk) 22:55, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Mohamn1ed Ali F owza[edit]
- Mohamn1ed Ali F owza → Mohammed Ali Abdullah Bwazir (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I'd normally R3 these, but it's not recently created, so I'm bringing it here instead. This is an unlikely search term and typo, and I can't find anything that explains why this redirect should reasonably exist. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:18, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete; I fail to see how this is plausible and the creator is CBANned. Queen of Hearts talk 17:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- delete. it seems less like an accidental misspelling and more like typing with your eyes closed cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 19:29, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Varsity (upcoming film)[edit]
- Varsity (upcoming film) → Prime Target (TV series) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I have no idea what the idea is behind this redirect but in my opinion it is useless The Banner talk 16:55, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- I created Varsity (upcoming film), someone else separately created Prime Target (TV series). It is my understanding that these are for the same production, and Prime Target is the correct title for broadcast. Hildreth gazzard (talk) 17:03, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Ōkami Amaterasu[edit]
- Ōkami Amaterasu → Ōkami#Characters (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Okami Amaterasu → Ōkami#Characters (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
ōkami is amaterasu's title in ōkami, but amaterasu ōkami is another name for the shinto sun goddess amaterasu, whom amaterasu is based on. would amaterasu be a better target, or does putting the "title" first narrow it down to the funny wolf amaterasu? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:02, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Based on your explanations and my findings, leaving as is would be better off. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:13, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per nom (that sounds weird); WP:SMALLDIFFS. Queen of Hearts talk 20:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
July 11[edit]
Gusty Garden Galaxy[edit]
- Gusty Garden Galaxy → Super Mario Galaxy#Music (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Soundtrack not mentioned in the target. Mia Mahey (talk) 23:21, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - while it's technically part of the subject, (it's a level/location in the game, not just a song) there's no realistic, encyclopedic reason to ever name drop it in the article.) Sergecross73 msg me 23:30, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
North West Leicestershire by-election, 2010[edit]
- North West Leicestershire by-election, 2010 → David Taylor (North West Leicestershire MP) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Never happened. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 22:50, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Weak refine to the "Standing down" section where it gets explained the most. There are a few hits dotted around the web as a by-election was expected. Thryduulf (talk) 23:16, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- In which case it should be renamed Planned North West Leicestershire by-election, 2010, without leaving a redirect. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 18:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- If this were an article I could support moving but only retaining a redirect, as a redirect I can only oppose. The current title is the plausible search term, given that's how UK by-election articles are titled. Thryduulf (talk) 08:00, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- In which case it should be renamed Planned North West Leicestershire by-election, 2010, without leaving a redirect. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 18:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Sonic Wiild Fire[edit]
- Sonic Wiild Fire → Sonic and the Secret Rings (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
either an implausible misspelling or an implausible pun. i don't know which outcome is worse, but the term doesn't seem to see much (if any) use in the context of sonic, with or without a space cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 14:35, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment/Weak Keep - Article has mention of "Sonic Wild Fire" as the game's original working title, and a single doubling of a character is a potentially plausible typo, so I don't see a need to go out of our way to delete this thing, but I'll grant that searching the original working title to begin with is a rare proposition, so it's not like I feel strongly about this one. (Entirely possible the redirect creator was making a Wii system pun) Fieari (talk) 06:11, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 21:15, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: per WP:CHEAP. The game was previously named Sonic Wild Fire so the target makes sense. I see no reason to delete. C F A 💬 21:17, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Mystic Ruins[edit]
- Mystic Ruins → Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood#Plot (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
either vague, or more closely associated with sonic adventure cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 14:20, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 21:15, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Biographies of living persons[edit]
- Biographies of living persons → Biography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This should be a CNR to WP:BLP. All of the 304 links to this redirect are in reference to the Wikipedia policy, rather than the Biography article. It seems unlikely that anyone searching for this would be looking for the encyclopedic article, especially considering the term is never mentioned. It was retarted to Biography from a CNR in 2009. C F A 💬 18:34, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I suppose this could also be retargeted to an encyclopedia article about Wikipedia, like Wikipedia#Policies_and_content, Vandalism on Wikipedia, or List of Wikipedia controversies (Wikipedia Seigenthaler biography incident), though a project redirect would make the most sense in my eyes. C F A 💬 18:47, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget (or add encyclopaedic content) This is a very high profile policy that does get referenced frequently off-site so I'm surprised we don't have some encyclopaedic content about it that could host a hatnote to the policy, although finding sources will be tricky due to the large number of Wikipedia mirrors and many other sites that have policies/guidelines with the same title. If we don't have encyclopaedic content then a cross-namespace redirect is the way to go - this is something that needs to be very easy to find, particularly by prospective editors and article subjects who shouldn't have to learn about namespaces first. Thryduulf (talk) 20:50, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- I was wondering if there would be enough coverage to write a separate article on the policy. I found it surprising that even the Policies and content section in the main Wikipedia article only briefly mentioned the policy (in reference to the Wikipedia Seigenthaler biography incident). If someone is willing to do that and they can find enough coverage, then that (with a hatnote) would be my preferred outcome over retargeting. C F A 💬 21:09, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Its not really a Wikipedia specific term but all Google results are for the policy. Maybe it should be kept as with a link on the DAB page to the BLP policy as well as the current MOS page. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:23, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- That's what I was considering doing before listing it here, but I decided against it. Do you really think anyone typing "Biographies of living persons" into the search bar is looking for Biography? It is obviously directly referencing the policy and the term isn't even mentioned in the article. C F A 💬 03:48, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
Extoskelitan[edit]
- Extoskelitan → Exoskeleton (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
that's 3 separate spelling mistakes cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 18:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: per WP:CHEAP. C F A 💬 19:01, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- will disagree with this specific one per wp:costly. aside from wikipedia, there seem to be only 3 other instances of this typo being made, two of those are on user-generated sites, and the other one cites this redirect for some reason cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 19:36, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- I see no reason why this should be deleted (or even listed here). It does no harm, has a valid target, and is obviously not stealing a red link from a future article. Unless misspellings are so bad that it's not clear what the target should be, I don't think they should ever be listed at RfD. As WP:COSTLY says: "the mere fact that a redirect is listed and discussed at the Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion page creates work for others" and "[don't send] redirects to RFD, unless there is a serious problem that can't be solved any other way (e.g., WP:BLP violations)." It has received 74 pageviews over its 9-year history, probably mostly crawlers, but it has most likely helped someone at least a few times before. C F A 💬 19:53, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- There are 2,578,125 possible typos of "Exoskeleton" that misses 3 letters, only counting the alphabet, and discounting insertions/removals. You would need to hire 10 people for 8 hours everyday, entering one unique typo per second, for 45 days to have an 50% chance of arriving at this typo. So likely, this redirect have never seen actual human traffic. Ca talk to me! 04:10, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- if it's discounting insertions, this typo would be out of the question, as there's an added t
- on cfa's note, i doubt the views could reasonably come from any source besides people using the "what links here" tool (like i did), mashing, or somehow finding the 3 instances of this specific misspelling and searching it here for a quick laugh. if someone has to do mental gymnastics to maybe find a possible reason for any given misspelling, there's a good chance it's not plausible cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:52, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, but that was hardly my point. I obviously don't care if this useless redirect is deleted, and I don't imagine anyone else on Wikipedia does either. But there's really no point in listing harmless misspellings here as long as they are targeted appropriately: all you're doing is cluttering RfD and making more work for the voters, relisters, closers, etc. Tag them for R3 if you catch them early, but otherwise don't bother. C F A 💬 16:55, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with you on that on useless but harmless redirects, no need to nominate for deletion; but might as well delete this useless redirect since it have been already nominated for deletion. Ca talk to me! 17:01, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- There are 2,578,125 possible typos of "Exoskeleton" that misses 3 letters, only counting the alphabet, and discounting insertions/removals. You would need to hire 10 people for 8 hours everyday, entering one unique typo per second, for 45 days to have an 50% chance of arriving at this typo. So likely, this redirect have never seen actual human traffic. Ca talk to me! 04:10, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- I see no reason why this should be deleted (or even listed here). It does no harm, has a valid target, and is obviously not stealing a red link from a future article. Unless misspellings are so bad that it's not clear what the target should be, I don't think they should ever be listed at RfD. As WP:COSTLY says: "the mere fact that a redirect is listed and discussed at the Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion page creates work for others" and "[don't send] redirects to RFD, unless there is a serious problem that can't be solved any other way (e.g., WP:BLP violations)." It has received 74 pageviews over its 9-year history, probably mostly crawlers, but it has most likely helped someone at least a few times before. C F A 💬 19:53, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- will disagree with this specific one per wp:costly. aside from wikipedia, there seem to be only 3 other instances of this typo being made, two of those are on user-generated sites, and the other one cites this redirect for some reason cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 19:36, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, implausible error, not used in practice. Rusalkii (talk) 21:43, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 00:39, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete implausible error that's so incorrect it looks like it's from a different language 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:38, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Skeltal[edit]
that's the "doot" meme. doesn't seem like a plausible misspelling of "skeletal" otherwise, as e is just close enough to t where it'd be hard to forget to type one letter cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 18:09, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: per WP:CHEAP. C F A 💬 19:02, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Skeltal is a variant name of a popular internet meme [1]. Our article on skeleton lack information about this meme, neither do any other article. The intro of WP:REDIRECT, a guideline says
Redirects are used to help people arrive more quickly at the page they want to read
. A generic article about skeletons are not what readers would want to see when they are searching about a meme. Ca talk to me! 05:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Skeltal is a variant name of a popular internet meme [1]. Our article on skeleton lack information about this meme, neither do any other article. The intro of WP:REDIRECT, a guideline says
One PIece[edit]
that's an uppercase i cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: per WP:CHEAP. C F A 💬 19:02, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Implausible misspelling. Our search function automatically handles different capitalizations. I tend to agree that effort of listing redirects with minor errors can be used elsewhere, but we might as well delete them as they are listed to reduce maintance work for useless redirects. Ca talk to me! 05:47, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
M-Block[edit]
'm (or 'm block) is a glitch pokémon that shares missingno's "sprite", index number, and some functions, but is otherwise a different glitch. it's not mentioned in the article aside from an offhanded mention in the translation for source 1 cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:15, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. AFAIK we don't discuss the 'M glitch in any other capacity, the most common method of finding MissingNo will also turn up 'M, and it doesn't just copy SOME functions, but PRACTICALLY ALL functions. For our intents and purposes, 'M and MissingNo. are the same thing and should be treated accordingly by redirects. Leave further details to Glitch City Labs and Bulbapedia. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 23:33, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- for pedantries that would border on fancruft if there weren't actually a couple of sources behind them...
- missingno (the form everyone recognizes, that is) can be obtained via the old man and mew glitches and the time capsule exploit with certain names, special stats, and gen 2 pokémon respectively, adds 128 items to the item in the 6rd slot of the player's bag, and corrupts hall of fame data
- 'm (specifically 00, as fe and ff are just hybrids) can only be obtained via the old man glitch and shares missingno's sprite, item cloning, and hall of fame corruption as a result of sharing its index number, but has (slightly) different data, such as moves and cries, can evolve into clefairy or kangaskhan, and lets you catch phantom ditto. according to some old stuff i found, it can also apparently spontaneously turn into a rhydon if you have another 'm in your party
- from a quick-ish look, those two sources mention 'm and its differences compared to missingno in some level of detail, an archive of the latter currently being source 9 in missingno's article, so if a mention could be added or discussed, i wouldn't be opposed to it cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 14:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Lunamann.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 03:59, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Pokémon incident[edit]
- Pokémon incident → Dennō Senshi Porygon (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
extremely vague. requires that "pokémon" and "incident" be defined in a way that somehow narrows it down to only this particular episode of the anime generation that also featured jynx and hypno, while excluding every other controversy the franchise has seen cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:42, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- should mention that i would favor retargeting it to an article or section of an article detailing most controversies, no such thing exists (yet). the closest i found was pokémon episodes removed from rotation, but even then, that's only for the anime cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:48, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as far too vague. When seeing the title I assumed it was some sort of (political) scandal or other real-world incident related to Pokémon in some way. A politician making a gaffe and exposing their ignorance while trying to appear to be a "man of the people" or something like that would have been my first guess. Thryduulf (talk) 17:30, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- isn't that the plot of swsh cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:33, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- I wouldn't have a clue! I've never watched, read or played Pokémon. Thryduulf (talk) 20:53, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- isn't that the plot of swsh cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:33, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - contrary to the above (and a whiny fan base) this is by far the most consequential incident related to the series. This actually ahead real world implications, that reliable sources wrote articles about. Sergecross73 msg me 23:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
EP038[edit]
vague. i can name at least one other thing with more than 37 episodes cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:35, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep Surprisingly to me searching on google this episode of the anime is just about the primary topic - all the results on the first page and a couple on the second are about this. After that we get to product codes and episodes of other things, but still interspersed with the Pokémon anime - no other single thing gets more than two hits. Thryduulf (talk) 17:35, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- mostly one piece (and drama novels) on my end. google is weird :( cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:53, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep: per above. Yeah, weirdly enough, a Google search only returns results about this specific episode. Not sure why, but it does appear to be the primary topic for the term. C F A 💬 18:51, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- mostly one piece (and drama novels) on my end. google is weird :( cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:53, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Heartless Angel[edit]
- Heartless Angel → Sephiroth (Final Fantasy) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
a recurring attack for sephiroth in a lot of his appearances since his debut... but also for kefka. if both appear in a playable or boss form in any given game, heartless angel tends to go to whoever pops up first, which is usually kefka. if you want to be technical, sephiroth gets it more often overall because he gets more appearances, but results seem to associate it equally with both (give or take sephiroth being mentioned more often overall). even then, heartless angel isn't mentioned in either of their articles. if not deleted, i don't know if it should be kept there or retargeted to kefka, to final fantasy#gameplay, or to recurring elements in the final fantasy series#gameplay, because it'd be hard to cram an unsourced mention (or worse, a mention with a guide as the source) into those otherwise good or featured articles cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:16, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
바나나[edit]
rlang seems to apply. i haven't found anything about the koreas in any banana article cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:44, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 12:22, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- There have been reports of bananas growing in Seoul due to climate change, but bananas are not closely affined to Korea. Delete per nom. Ca talk to me! 16:07, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I agree that bananas growing in Seoul is not a strong enough connection to the country to justify the redirect.--67.70.101.117 (talk) 19:10, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 00:40, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Ramshackle[edit]
- Ramshackle → Independent animation (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Ramshackle (film) → Independent animation (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
'Ramshackle' (whatever that is) isn't mentioned anywhere in the target article. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 11:04, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Move Ramshackle (group) over Ramshackle and add a hatnote to Ramshackled (it already has a hatnote to Wiktionary). Delete Ramshackle (film). The only film I can find is Ramshackle House but that's a partial title match. Thryduulf (talk) 12:32, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- The full title of the film in question is Ramshackle: The Thesis Film. It has a reasonable view count on YouTube, but it's probably not notable enough for its own article - it's not in the same league as Lackadaisy or Helluva Boss. It's not mentioned at Independent animation. Replace with Ramshackle (group) per Thryduulf. Tevildo (talk) 15:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Australia national soccer team[edit]
- Australia national soccer team → Australia men's national soccer team (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Procedural nomination; I'm not leaving an opinion. This redirect was converted to a disambiguation page by Thrakkx, back to a redirect by Macosal, back again by Joeykai, and then back to a redirect by The Banner earlier today. Keep or disambiguate? —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 05:03, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Unfortunately, the men's team is the primary topic (I would love to see the women's team with the same status, but alas). Beside that, it solved a lot of links to disambiguation pages. The Banner talk 09:06, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate - Looking at the stats, the men's team does get more hits in typical month, but not always (see in August 2023 the women's team's hits completely dwarfed the men's). In the last year, the women's team article has received more views than the men's (745,602 vs 729,076) - which looks like it was largely due to them making it to the semis of the 2023 world cup, something the men's team has not achieved. Can't see an argument that either team is the obvious WP:PTOPIC so disambig looks like the way to go. BugGhost🪲👻 11:02, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Clarification - I forgot that the women's world cup was in 2023, but the men's world cup was in 2022 - so the stats in that link are a bit skewed because it included one but omitted the other. If you expand the date range to include both world cups, then you see a similar spike in hits for the men's team, and statistically the men's team overall has more views. I still stand by my conclusion that there's no primary topic and we should disambiguate. BugGhost🪲👻 11:13, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Disambig per Bugghost. Thryduulf (talk) 12:34, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Disambig as per the stats above. If men's team is primary topic, then WP:RM should be moved to remove men's from the article name, but that is an RM issue not an RFD one. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
ZeroNaseone[edit]
Naked Rugby League 2007-08[edit]
- Naked Rugby League 2007-08 → A League of Their Own (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Implausible redirect. Zinnober9 (talk) 00:26, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Naked Rugby League. This was originally created as a redirect to what became (after a series of moves) League of Their Own (calendar), an article about a calendar featuring naked photographs of Rugby league players (principally the 2006-07 edition, but it did include a paragraph about the 2007-08 version), but that article was prodded and subsequently deleted. However, Naked Rugby League is an extant article about the 2007-08 calendar so that is where it should target. The current target is an entirely unrelated 1992 film about baseball that (from a skim-read of the article) contains nothing related to nudity, Rugby league or 2007-08. Thryduulf (talk) 01:44, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- No objections to a retarget. That makes far more sense than the existing target. Zinnober9 (talk) 01:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
July 10[edit]
Samantha Payne (director)[edit]
- Samantha Payne (director) → Mean Girls (2024 film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Samantha Payne is not the director of Mean Girls. The director is Samantha Jayne. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 23:26, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
WIFJAJC[edit]
Acronym meaning "World Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders". Nothing links here. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 22:42, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Protection policy/Padloacks[edit]
- Wikipedia:Protection policy/Padloacks → Wikipedia:Protection policy/Padlocks (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Implausible redirect, given that Padloack doesn't even exist in main space. 88.97.195.160 (talk) 19:40, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Implausible misspelling. Ca talk to me! 14:56, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete since as noted even the mainspace redirect doesn't exist and it was at this title for less than a minute in 2013. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:41, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Right-wing media[edit]
- Right-wing media → Media bias (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not sure if this is appropriate, as "bias" implies something untoward (as with the rest of the article). Plenty of news outlets that are openly left or right-wing but there is nothing wrong about it. GnocchiFan (talk) 18:56, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- I agree, that redirect violates WP:NPOV for me, delete. Jonteemil (talk) 19:01, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: per nom, Jonteemil, and WP:REDLINK. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:34, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per above. While we're at it, Conservative media also redirects to Media bias. Mirror links (e.g., Left-wing media don't appear to exist. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 22:46, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Didn't realise that; Liberal media also redirects there. If this is deleted, all "(political persuasion) media" articles that redirect here should be deleted. GnocchiFan (talk) 11:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per above. This is a plausible topic for an article. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 00:34, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. It is not implausible that an article at the target title could be an appropriate target for this redirect, but the article that actually exists there is not. I'm surprised we don't have any articles or lists discussing right and left wing media with examples, as such would be encyclopaedic and this would be a plausible search term for that, but at present there is no good target I can find. Thryduulf (talk) 01:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Håndboldligaen redirects[edit]
- 2024-25 Håndboldligaen → Danish Men's Handball League (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- 2022-23 Håndboldligaen → Danish Men's Handball League (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- 2020-21 Håndboldligaen → Danish Men's Handball League (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- 2023-24 Håndboldligaen → Danish Men's Handball League (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- 2024–25 Håndboldligaen → Danish Men's Handball League (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- 2023–24 Håndboldligaen → Danish Men's Handball League (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- 2022–23 Håndboldligaen → Danish Men's Handball League (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- 2020–21 Håndboldligaen → Danish Men's Handball League (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I don't think these are good redirects. Redirects exist to lead people to the right place, not to avoid redlinks. When someone bothers writing these pages, then they can become bluelinks, but not until then. Also, the risk for it staying unwritten is higher when it is a bluelink than if it were a redlink. Jonteemil (talk) 18:46, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: I agree that these should be red links. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:34, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:REDLINK per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 01:55, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Bigrigs[edit]
- Bigrigs → Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
i think it should be retargeted, but should it be to semi-trailer truck, or to big rig (disambiguation)? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 18:34, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Semi-trailer truck: Since this is the primary topic, it would serve readers best to redirect here. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:36, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment in my searches, the primary topic is actually Big Rigs, an Australian magazine that at first glance might be notable (I've not looked deeper than that) but which doesn't have an article. The semi-truck page does have a hatnote to the dab page, which lists the video game prominently however that is two clicks rather than none. Thryduulf (talk) 02:10, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment on a related note, I've just created Bigrig as a redirect to Bigrigg (a village in the UK) and added a hatnote to the truck and dab page, but I debated with myself which target is best so feel free to discuss if you think I made the wrong choice. Thryduulf (talk) 02:10, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
big rigs redirects with no space[edit]
- Big rigs:over the road racing → Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Big Rigs:Over the Road Racing → Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
missingspace, but it sounds like something the game itself would do cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 18:28, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as harmless, especially if it
sounds like something the game itself would do
(I have no opinion on that and the images in the article don't help). Thryduulf (talk) 02:12, 11 July 2024 (UTC)- if context is needed, "beating" a "race" with it earns you a crusty png of a trophy, accompanied by the text "you're winner !". it's exactly that bad. an image of that "win screen" wouldn't actually be too bad, now that you mention it cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Active worlds in the Solar System[edit]
- Active worlds in the Solar System → Volcano#Volcanoes on other celestial bodies (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
not the biggest volcano nerd out there, so sorry in advance for any uninformed claims, but from reading the target and other related articles, there seem to be no other celestial bodies that meet the criteria of being a "world", currently having volcanic activity, and being in the solar system, though mercury is a strong "maybe". on another note, i'm not entirely sure "active world" is a term used to refer to volcanic activity, and the creator of the redirect (who seems to have made it as an essay) seemed to have also been referring to geysers, and counting moons as "worlds". for results. wikipedia gave me an mmo (shoutouts to hitomi fujiko), google gave me assorted apps and brands, and wiktionary gave me nothing. unless there's a detail i'm missing or this is a scientific term that refers to celestial bodies with volcanic activity, i'll vote for deletion cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:07, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- on this note, i should mention "volcanically active worlds", a redirect that specifies the type of activity it refers to and does not specify the location. jury's still out on the definition of world though, but it's a step in the right direction cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:16, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Is there a better redirect at this time as is this not a redirect with potential.?
- Jury is out on definition of volcano as noted in the article itself and presumably meaning of world. Planet and moon are more accurate terms. Many "worlds" are active in some way as they are above absolute zero and may have internal or external entropy sources that disturb their surface however that is defined. Someone could get a good article out of this so my vote is to retain in hope someone will do the job, unless there is a better redirect. ChaseKiwi (talk) 17:56, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- drifting into personal opinion territory by now, but wouldn't returning to red be better for that? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 18:05, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- I think "Active worlds" is too ambiguous to justify keeping "Active worlds in the Solar System" as a redirect to Volcano#Volcanoes on other celestial bodies. I also have not found any other suitable redirect targets because the problem is the lack of meaning in the redirect's title rather than a problem with any targets of the redirect. I recommend delete. GeoWriter (talk) 11:49, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- drifting into personal opinion territory by now, but wouldn't returning to red be better for that? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 18:05, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Super Smash Bros. 6[edit]
- Super Smash Bros. 6 → Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned in the target. No information about a video game named Super Smash Bros. 6 exists in the target article or in Super Smash Bros. Mia Mahey (talk) 22:30, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- delete as wrong. ultimate is the 5st installment cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 22:45, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Cogsan see below. Some call it the sixth. Not arguing that's correct, but it's plausible at least. Sergecross73 msg me 23:04, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- that's if you ignore the fact that smash for 3ds and that other console are both commonly referred to as "sm4sh", and clumped together as two different flavors of the same installment by pretty much everyone less pedantic than me. ironically, nintendo considers them to be separate, but even the article reduces that to note c, accompanied by "but who cares about those guys, most sources say they're both smash 4" cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:25, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- None of that changes that its a plausible search term, with sourcing and notes to clear up confusion. Again, I'm not saying its the sixth title. I'm not arguing anyone should think that. I'm saying its a plausible redirect because some people think that, and some sources outline it. Sergecross73 msg me 13:19, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- that's if you ignore the fact that smash for 3ds and that other console are both commonly referred to as "sm4sh", and clumped together as two different flavors of the same installment by pretty much everyone less pedantic than me. ironically, nintendo considers them to be separate, but even the article reduces that to note c, accompanied by "but who cares about those guys, most sources say they're both smash 4" cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:25, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Cogsan see below. Some call it the sixth. Not arguing that's correct, but it's plausible at least. Sergecross73 msg me 23:04, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - it is the sixth entry in the Smash Bros if you consider the 3DS and Wii versions separate games, which some developers/sources do. Sergecross73 msg me 23:02, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- The target does not state that it is the sixth entry in the series instead of the fifth. This redirect will be misleading when a sixth Super Smash Bros. game is released. Mia Mahey (talk) 23:27, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- A reliably sourced mention of how some consider it the sixth entry could be very easily implemented. Additionally, there's no need to right now future-proof the article for a future game that hasn't even been announced to exist yet. Sergecross73 msg me 23:51, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- People searching for Super Smash Bros. 6 are most likely looking for information on a successor of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. No information on such game exists in the target article, or for that matter, anywhere on Wikipedia, so the redirect is harmful and should be deleted per WP:COSTLY. Mia Mahey (talk) 00:57, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- I strongly disagree with that notion. Why would people be searching for an unannounced game that currently isn't know to exist with this search term? And if someone was knowledgeable enough to use a relatively rare search term like "Smash Bros 6" in a search bar, they'd be knowledgeable enough to understand what Smash Bros Ultimate is. So your confusion scenario feels rather far fetched to me, I don't know what sort of person this would apply to. Doubly so since I've maintained the Ultimate page since its inception and thus has not been a common issue. Sergecross73 msg me 02:34, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Usually only major video games in a series are numbered, and Super Smash Bros. Ultimate is only the fifth major Super Smash Bros. game. If Super Smash Bros. 6 redirects to Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, on the basis of the 3DS and Wii U releases being treated as separate games, I think we should probably also have Mario Kart 9 redirect to Mario Kart 8#Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, which we don't and we shouldn't. Mia Mahey (talk) 04:51, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- by that logic, which one would be 5 anyway? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 13:11, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- This is irrelevant. There's never been any discussion or consensus that Mario Kart is handling it correctly either, so it's no standard to aspire to. It's just an WP:OSE-violating comparison. Sergecross73 msg me 13:17, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Usually only major video games in a series are numbered, and Super Smash Bros. Ultimate is only the fifth major Super Smash Bros. game. If Super Smash Bros. 6 redirects to Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, on the basis of the 3DS and Wii U releases being treated as separate games, I think we should probably also have Mario Kart 9 redirect to Mario Kart 8#Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, which we don't and we shouldn't. Mia Mahey (talk) 04:51, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- I strongly disagree with that notion. Why would people be searching for an unannounced game that currently isn't know to exist with this search term? And if someone was knowledgeable enough to use a relatively rare search term like "Smash Bros 6" in a search bar, they'd be knowledgeable enough to understand what Smash Bros Ultimate is. So your confusion scenario feels rather far fetched to me, I don't know what sort of person this would apply to. Doubly so since I've maintained the Ultimate page since its inception and thus has not been a common issue. Sergecross73 msg me 02:34, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- People searching for Super Smash Bros. 6 are most likely looking for information on a successor of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. No information on such game exists in the target article, or for that matter, anywhere on Wikipedia, so the redirect is harmful and should be deleted per WP:COSTLY. Mia Mahey (talk) 00:57, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- A reliably sourced mention of how some consider it the sixth entry could be very easily implemented. Additionally, there's no need to right now future-proof the article for a future game that hasn't even been announced to exist yet. Sergecross73 msg me 23:51, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- The target does not state that it is the sixth entry in the series instead of the fifth. This redirect will be misleading when a sixth Super Smash Bros. game is released. Mia Mahey (talk) 23:27, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Super Smash Bros for 3DS and Super Smash Bros for Wii U are both Smash 4, and neither are Smash 5. They did release on separate days, with Wii U being released after 3DS, but they were released literally two months apart, were clearly developed together, and they have several methods of transferring data between the two platforms; it's highly probable that they only released separately due to delays. They also share a Wikipedia page, shared advertising space, pretty much everywhere you go they're talked about as one unit instead of two separate games-- much like, for example, Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team and Red Rescue Team, another instance of one game with two names on two different Nintendo consoles with different capabilities. (If you throw out the 'two different consoles' thing, pretty much any first-of-the-gen Pokemon game in the history of ever, from Pokemon Red and Blue all the way to Pokémon Scarlet and Violet are examples of this in action. (Like, what, are you saying that Pokémon Emerald is Pokemon 13 or something???) Because of this, Smash Ultimate is clearly Smash 5, and thus, Smash 6 would logically be the next entry of the series after Smash Ultimate, a game that does not exist. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 18:45, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- no, let's make it worse
- red + green (jp) > blue (jp) > stadium (jp) > yellow > red + blue (not jp) > hey you, pikachu > tcg (game boy) > snap > pinball > "stadium" (actually stadium 2) > gold + silver > dance! pikachu > puzzle challenge > puzzle league > "stadium 2" (actually stadium gold and silver) > crystal > pikachu's great surfing adventure > tcg 2 > crayon kids > party mini > zany cards > pinball mini > puzzle collection > tetris > breeder mini (wait what) > puzzle collection vol. 2 > race mini > catch the numbers > pichu bros. mini > togepi's great adventure > ruby + sapphire > box r&s > channel > pinball r&s > channel > pinball r&s > some hiragana and katakana education game > colosseum > firered + leafgreen > pico for everyone > emerald
- thus, emerald is the 46nd installment in the pokémon franchise, or the 14st mainline installment cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:20, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Is that jan Misali reference I'm seeing? :D Ca talk to me! 01:09, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- a what cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:22, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm getting into WP:NOTFORUM territory, but they published a video exploring a similar question but for Super Mario mainline series. Ca talk to me! 06:38, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- oh, that one. my dumb brain forgot it wasn't from summoning salt. whoops cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:35, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm getting into WP:NOTFORUM territory, but they published a video exploring a similar question but for Super Mario mainline series. Ca talk to me! 06:38, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- a what cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:22, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Again, you're both arguing what's "correct" instead of arguing what's plausible. Whether it's the correct numbering is irrelevant. Some people (not me) believe it to be true, and the alternative is a game that doesn't even exist. We don't need to future proof for scenarios that may not ever even happen. It can be easily and quickly fixed as things potentially change someday. Sergecross73 msg me 00:55, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Is that jan Misali reference I'm seeing? :D Ca talk to me! 01:09, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Super Smash Bros.#2015–2021: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - only mention of "Smash Bros. 6" on Wikipedia is from that article, talking about a Bandai Namco recruitment page stating:
The recruitment page consisted of a listing for programmers for "Smash Bros. 6", which was expected to be released in 2015 for both the Wii U and Nintendo 3DS"
, which is likely why the redirect exists in the first place. It being mentioned there is just a happy coincidence though - the main reason why I am saying it should go to Super Smash Bros.#2015–2021: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate rather than Super Smash Bros. Ultimate directly is because the lengthy discussions above shows that there is ambiguity that SB6 would refer to Ultimate or some future/non-existent game, and Super Smash Bros.#2015–2021: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate is directly above a "Future" section, so this redirect would cover both bases. As an aside, I don't think the above discussions need to be continued - regardless of anyone's views, I think the outcome is obvious that there's no clear primary topic - we now just need to find the best way of disambiguating. BugGhost🪲👻 08:43, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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Porch monkey[edit]
- Porch monkey → List of ethnic slurs#P (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Porch Monkey → List of ethnic slurs#P (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No longer mentioned at target. The second redirect is fully protected, so I cannot tag it. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:33, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- It is mentioned at List of ethnic slurs and epithets by ethnicity, although that article does seem like a WP:CFORK to me. 162 etc. (talk) 02:45, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- I agree that List of ethnic slurs and epithets by ethnicity and List of ethnic slurs have a CFORK problem; the only difference scope-wise is sorting order, with the original target being alphabetically sorted by the slurs and the other list being sorted by target ethnicity. This issue should probably be resolved (and the two pages possibly re-merged) before we figure out where this should target. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 13:04, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note I've added the RfD tag to the second redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 12:01, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Retarget to Porch sitting#In popular culture where it is mentioned and expounded upon. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 07:20, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- But unsourced, and I have just added a {{cn}} there. Jay 💬 16:57, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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redirects to unmanned combat aerial vehicle[edit]
- Military drone → unmanned combat aerial vehicle (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Combat drone → unmanned combat aerial vehicle (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Combat drones → unmanned combat aerial vehicle (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Armed drone → unmanned combat aerial vehicle (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Weaponized drone → unmanned combat aerial vehicle (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Attack drone → unmanned combat aerial vehicle (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Battlefield UAV → unmanned combat aerial vehicle (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- battlefield unmanned aerial vehicle → unmanned combat aerial vehicle (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Non-US battlefield UAVs → unmanned combat aerial vehicle (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- International Battlefield UAVs (2) → unmanned combat aerial vehicle (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- International Battlefield UAVs (1) → unmanned combat aerial vehicle (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- International Battlefield UAVs → unmanned combat aerial vehicle (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
These need retargetting, as these are not specific to UCAV. Military drones can be unarmed, such as the Global Hawk, and most target drones (Q-planes) like the QF-4 (retired fighter converted to target drone). Armed drones are not restricted to UCAVs, such as sea drones operated by Ukraine that have sunk many Russian ships. On the Ukrainian battlefield, armed and unarmed land drones (unmanned ground vehicle -- UGV) also are being used, as are armed and unarmed aerial drones (UAV - unmanned aerial vehicle). Both the US and China have demonstrated drone tanks and robot dogs with machine guns. Police have tracked ground drones armed with shotguns, so not just militaries have armed drones. UXOD and landmine clearing also use military ground drones.
-- 64.229.90.32 (talk) 13:36, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment International Battlefield UAVs (1) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and International Battlefield UAVs (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) should probably have a round robin swap, since the edit history is located at (1) and no significant history is located at the base name. That would allow deletion of (1) and International Battlefield UAVs (2) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) as useless numbered redirects from old swaps -- 64.229.90.32 (talk) 14:08, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment if there is no better target, they should retarget to drone (disambiguation) page, that lists various types of drones. -- 64.229.90.32 (talk) 20:49, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete International Battlefield UAVs and International Battlefield UAVs (2), as they appear to have been created during a botched round robin move. Then move International Battlefield UAVs (1) to International Battlefield UAVs without leaving a redirect, as its revision history is likely worth keeping. At the moment, I'm not sure what to do about the rest, but I agree that their current target is not optimal. - ZLEA T\C 05:50, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Upon further thought, I believe the best course of action for the others would be to make Military drone a disambiguation page and retarget the rest to it. - ZLEA T\C 17:36, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
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Digimon World Re:Digitize[edit]
- Digimon World Re:Digitize → Digimon World Re:Digitize (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
that's a completely different type of colon. not sure who would write the title in english, switch to a japanese keyboard setting to add that specific colon and nothing else, and then back to a latin one to write the rest cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:40, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as implausible mixed-script redirect. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:16, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - I'm an EFL teacher to native Japanese speakers and see my students do this kind of thing all the time. Random "full-width" punctuation and spaces everywhere when they try writing in English. No comment as to whether or not that makes it keepable, but just needed to say... yes, they do this. No, I don't know why, no matter how many times I tell them not to. Fieari (talk) 04:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- On reflection, coming back to add: I do know why they do this. Japanese keyboards have a button to switch between hiragana/kanji, katakana, and romaji modes, as well as some other modes as well. Japanese users are very familiar with switching between modes multiple times within a single sentence in order to type the characters they need. So they are typing in romaji mode to type the less familiar English characters/words, but then they suddenly come across a character they are used to much more, the colon! So they switch back to kana input to put in the familiar character before switching back to romaji mode to continue typing the unfamiliar parts. As I said, it happens A LOT despite my best efforts to curtail it ("Just keep it on romaji while in English class!") Fieari (talk) 07:06, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Digimon world:re:digitize[edit]
- Digimon world:re:digitize → Digimon World Re:Digitize (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
missing a space as well, but this one might make a little sense if you're thinking of emails. still voting for deletion, but will give it the benefit of the doubt cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:35, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
malformed digimon redirects[edit]
- Digimon:Digital Monsters (anime) → Digimon (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- DIGIMON:Digital Monsters → Digimon (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Digimon:Digital Monsters → Digimon (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
missingspace too cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:15, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Lucas(Mother 3)[edit]
Observatorio tecnológico[edit]
- Observatorio tecnológico → Observatory (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete as an unlikely redirect from a foreign language. ArcticSeeress (talk) 09:34, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- delete. don't know why there's a redirect in portuguese if the language doesn't even exist. that aside, the article isn't necessarily about "technological" observatories (whatever that's supposed to mean) cogsan (me incomodar) (me perseguir) 12:24, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- note: i was wrong. this was an ad in spanish. thought there was something wrong with the missing accent in "observatório". vote still stands cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 21:04, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Standard WP:FORRED case. Ca talk to me! 07:03, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Sdn Bhd[edit]
- Sdn Bhd → Private company limited by shares (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Sendirian Berhad → Private company limited by shares (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No mention in article Isla🏳️⚧ 00:50, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment added Sendirian Berhad to this nomination (the expansion of the abbreviation sdn bhd, which points to the same target). Best course of action here might be to add a mention at some existing Malaysia-specific article (e.g. Companies Commission of Malaysia) where it could fit as a subtopic, and retarget there temporarily as a {{R with possibilities}}. The current target is extremely UK-specific. 59.149.117.119 (talk) 06:20, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - Is this term just a foreign language term for the same thing? In that case we should delete per WP:RFOR. Alternatively, is there a distinction that would make this more like a proper name for the concept, being brought into the English corpus as a loanword? In that case we should delete it to WP:RETURNTORED and encourage a proper article to explain the difference. Fieari (talk) 23:18, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
Is this term just a foreign language term for the same thing?
No. It's the Malay (and possibly Malaysian English?) term for a type of Malaysian legal entity that is roughly equivalent to, but not the same as, the British legal entity. Thryduulf (talk) 20:37, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment List of legal entity types by country#Malaysia tells me this is a type of corporation in Malaysia that is approximately equivalent to Private company limited by shares in the UK, which is in turn approximately equivalent to GmbH in Germany, Austria and Switzerland, Société à responsabilité limitée in France (and some other French-speaking countries), Aktiebolag in Sweden, Proprietary company in Australia, South Africa and Namibia, etc. I'm undecided though whether retargetting to the list or deleting per WP:REDLINK is best. Thryduulf (talk) 20:37, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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Puddle thinking[edit]
- Puddle thinking → Fine-tuned universe#In popular culture (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned anymore at the target page. Puddle thinking was merged to Fine-tuned universe in 2010 (diff), and the relevant content was removed in 2020 (diff). Tea2min (talk) 09:22, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. There's some ancient discussion prior to the merge at Talk:Anthropic principle/Archive 2#Merge of Puddle thinking and Talk:Fine-tuned universe/Archive 5#Merge puddle thinking here?. Tea2min (talk) 09:27, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Crosswiki to Wikiquote - The original content of that page seems to have just been a quote from Douglas Adams, which is still kept at wikiquote: [2]. I wish we could target the quote directly, but it's pretty close to the top of the quotes list, and should provide everything the searcher is looking for on this one. Fieari (talk) 23:39, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, seems harmless and I could plausibly see the quote being discussed at Fine-tuned universe or a child article in the future at some point. SnowFire (talk) 23:05, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
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July 9[edit]
World War 5[edit]
- World War 5 → World War III (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- World War V → World War III (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Fifth World War → World War III (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- 5th World War → World War III (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Ww5 → World War III (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not a helpful search term, no mention at target, and not likely to be a typo for somebody searching for World War III. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- the best argument i can think of is 5 being right over 2 in most pads. still not a typo you'd make without noticing. delete as implausible cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 19:15, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Keep:Delete: The primary reason for keeping these redirects in general would be the quote about World War V mentioned in the discussion linked to later in this comment. However, that quote seems to have since been removed from the article about World War III. Original: I created this redirect because World War V and Fifth World War already existed. If you were to propose deleting all of these redirects, then I would reconsider, but I think that keeping those while deleting World War 5 would be quite inconsistent. For reference, a similar discussion took place around "World War VI": Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 October 26#World War VI. –Gluonz talk contribs 19:21, 2 July 2024 (UTC); edited 14:47, 7 July 2024 (UTC)- I bundled in other redirects you've found. I don't think josh was suggesting that we only delete World War 5, but just haven't found the other similar redirects. Ca talk to me! 13:55, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- and delete them too, for the same reason cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 14:25, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Ca: I have also found 5th World War (which currently redirects to World war#Potential Third World War) and Ww5 (which currently redirects to World war#Subsequent world wars). –Gluonz talk contribs 21:04, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- I bundled in other redirects you've found. I don't think josh was suggesting that we only delete World War 5, but just haven't found the other similar redirects. Ca talk to me! 13:55, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete No mention of WW5 in the article, and Wikipedia is not a crystal ball Ca talk to me! 13:57, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete all as not mentioned at target and misleading. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:03, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Should World War IIII (and similar redirects) be deleted as well?
WW4 isn't mentioned at the WW3 article either. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:44, 3 July 2024 (UTC)- World War IV is briefly mentioned three times in that article. Also, a film titled The Fourth World War exists, as does a work of the same name by Subcomandante Marcos. –Gluonz talk contribs 18:01, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as no content about a fifth world war is mentioned at the target page and neither WW3 nor WW4 have happened yet. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 21:32, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete all We'll cross that bridge when we get to it... if it's not a pile of radioactive rubble, at least. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:56, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Scared Silly[edit]
- Scared Silly → Ronald McDonald (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
normally a little vague, but as a name, it seems more primarily associated with an open season movie cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:03, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Weak DABify - This is the title of the first episode of The Wacky Adventures of Ronald McDonald, and also for the movie Open Season: Scared Silly. I'm uncertain if the Open Season movie is the WP:PTOPIC for the phrase "Scared Silly" specifically, and google shows that it's the title of more things as well, such as a children's novel by Elizabeth Eulberg (no wiki-page), a picture book by Marc Brown (author) (very famous author), a stage play by Peter Bloedel (probably not notable), and likely many more... as this is a common English expression as well! Google does show the movie a bit more prominently than the other entries, mind you, so the PTOPIC argument can certainly be made, but that's why my DABify !vote is weak. Although I will say, if a PTOPIC is established, a disambiguation page should probably be made alongside it and hatnoted. Fieari (talk) 06:28, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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Snuffleupagas[edit]
- Snuffleupagas → Mr. Snuffleupagus (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete. The Snuffleupagus redirect already exists, but Mr. Snuffleupagas doesn't, and creating it just to justify the Snuffleupagas redirect may run the risk of reinforcing this particular misspelling. If a reader looking to read about Snuffy types "snuffleu" into the search bar, Snuffleupagus should be what appears in the resulting list, not the redundant Snuffleupagas. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 22:45, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as a plausible and unambiguous misspelling. Just tag it as a {{r from misspelling}} and move on. - Eureka Lott 02:03, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - Very plausible misspelling. It actually took me well over a minute of staring and triple-checking to even notice where the error was-- I think it's like that famous "Paris in the the spring" test (because I and many people automatically sight-read the pronunciation, and the pronunciation matches pretty much perfectly here). Fieari (talk) 06:11, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as plausible misspelling. I've tagged it with {{R from misspelling}}. mwwv converse∫edits 13:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Chhota Bheem 2[edit]
- Chhota Bheem 2 → Chhota Bheem and the Throne of Bali (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Chhota Bheem 3 → Chhota Bheem (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Chhota Bheem 4 → Chhota Bheem: Kung Fu Dhamaka (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
All redirects were created on the same day by the same creator as a chronological search aid for theatrical films in order of release for the series. Apart from animated films, Chhota Bheem also has a live action film and is a television series. Lack of "film" in the redirect titles was a factor in the deletion of Chhota Bheem 1 and Chhota Bheem 5 at the recently closed RfD WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 25#Chhota Bheem 1. Chhota Bheem 3 redirects back to the parent article that has no listed chronology. I would recommend deletion consistent with the already deleted ones. Jay 💬 22:20, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- As I mentioned in the linked RfD, the lack of 'film' in the title wasn't my issue with Chhota Bheem 1 and Chhota Bheem 5-- the issue I had was that the redirect target was incorrect, pointing to Chhota Bheem and the Curse of Damyaan (2012 film) instead of the actual first and fifth films: Chhota Bheem Aur Krishna and Chhota Bheem: Journey to Petra. (You may notice that both of those redirect to the Chhota Bheem page itself-- that's because we don't have information on those films.)By that logic:
- Chhota Bheem 2 should redirect to Chhota Bheem and Ganesh in the Amazing Odyssey. Retarget appropriately.
- Chhota Bheem 3 should redirect to Chhota Bheem Aur Krishna in Pataliputra, a page that does not exist. Delete.
- Chhota Bheem 4 should redirect to Bheem vs Aliens, which itself is a redirect to Chhota Bheem-- we don't have a page on this movie. Delete.
- 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 03:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Delete all per nom. M S Hassan (talk) 04:15, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
The Halberd[edit]
- The Halberd → Meta Knight (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
not entirely sure what makes this halberd that's only mentioned in passing in the target "the", as opposed to the weapon cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete not sure if there's a definite target for this redirect. Closest that I think is the The HMS Halberd which was an unlaunched Weapon-class destroyer. --Lenticel (talk) 00:07, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as those searching for a halberd are unlikely to be adding a "the" prefix. This could potentially be renamed "The Battleship Halberd" or "Battleship Halberd" since the Halberd is a recurring location in the Kirby series that is highly associated with Meta Knight, thus making it a feasible search target. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:53, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as vague. Even ignoring generic uses, google finds content about specific halberds in at least three media franchises on the first two pages. Thryduulf (talk) 20:01, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 21:31, 9 July 2024 (UTC)- Keep. I don't find this vague-- searching for The Halberd on Google turns up two classes results-- the weapon and its existence both irl and in various video games like Elden Ring or Dark Souls (it may be capitalized in such links but it's literally just *a* halberd in those instances), and this fictional battleship and its appearances in the Kirby series and the Super Smash Bros series. (That doesn't count as two separate ships-- the Smash one is intended to *be* the Kirby one.) WP:DIFFCAPS is enough to establish that someone searching for "The Halberd" is probably not wanting to go to halberd the weapon, if the leading The wasn't a tip-off already. As for target, anyone looking for information on the Kirby Halberd is well-served by this redirect, which takes you to information on the ship's owner and main resident, and has information on the battleship itself. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 03:50, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Too vague. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:55, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
E.Π.Ε.Κ.[edit]
- E.Π.Ε.Κ. → National Progressive Center Union (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
First E is Latin, second is Greek. Delete per WP:MIXEDSCRIPT or (my preference) move to Ε.Π.Ε.Κ. without leaving a redirect. Nickps (talk) 21:29, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Move per nom Implausible. No one is going to change their keyboard language to type the second E. Ca talk to me! 06:03, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Ichtyol[edit]
this one, i don't understand. ichtyol seems to be either a type of medicine (or chemical?), a misspelling(?) of "ichthyol", which seems to be a fossil fish oil, or a brand of shampoo. none of those seem to be related to shiitake mushrooms. is there something i'm missing? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 15:35, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Apparently, this can refer to water extracts of shiitake mushrooms, like here for example. However, that's an off-hand mention and the paper it cites does not refer to its shiitake extracts as ichtyol.[3] Neither does the paper it cites for the extraction methodology. [4] Other mentions of 'ichtyol' referring to Shiitake extracts I found are not reliable sources. My efforts here don't support adding a mention of ichtyol to Shiitake and the redirect should probably be deleted as there is no mention. ― Synpath 21:07, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- For reference there is an article on Ichthyol: Ammonium bituminosulfonate ― Synpath 21:08, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Ammonium bituminosulfonate as closest potential target. --Lenticel (talk) 00:01, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
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Shiitake mashrooms[edit]
implausible misspelling of "mushroom"? at the very best, i think someone could potentially mishear the "u" depending on the speaker's accent, but that doesn't seem very likely, and u and a are almost on opposite sides of the keyboard cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 15:29, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
WeakKeep - I'm calling this a potentially plausible search based on the fact that the Japanese pronunciation of "mushroom" is マシュルム, which would be transliterated "mashurūmu" but when spoken aloud sounds like "mashroom" (two of the "u"s are nigh-unvoiced). This is only relevant because "shiitake" is Japanese to begin with. The thing that makes it a stretch is that マシュルム, in Japanese, does not refer to shiitake, but only to (western style) button mushrooms...so I'll leave this as a weak !vote.Eh, redirects are WP:CHEAP anyway. Fieari (talk) 03:06, 3 July 2024 (UTC)- Delete. Mashroom doesn't exist. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:08, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak Keep per Fieari. To add on to Fieari, the misspelling is common enough to be included in this dictionary and this wikipedia article. The WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST argument is flawed since mushrooms in general is not affined to Japan, but Shiitake mushrooms do. Ca talk to me! 15:22, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Strengthening my !vote above per your reference that this misspelling is attested in reliable sources related to the subject. Fieari (talk) 04:44, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Wicked Ways Garbage song[edit]
- Wicked Ways Garbage song → Wicked Ways (Garbage song) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Was missing parentheses. Seems unnecessary now that it has been moved to the correct Wicked Ways (Garbage song). Jameboy (talk) 12:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Per nom. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 18:28, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: the correct version exists. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:07, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep plausible search term. Also, why on earth did the nominator move a redirect, when it's valid to have redirects from more than one place to the same target article? Joseph2302 (talk) 08:06, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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Port Royal, Richmond County, Nova Scotia[edit]
- Port Royal, Richmond County, Nova Scotia → Isle Madame (Nova Scotia) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
It is not clear why this redirects here. "Port Royal" itself is ambiguous, and there's no mention of "Port Royal" in the article. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:38, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- There is such a place (not sure if linking google maps like that works), it just doesn't have an article at present. It had been a stub before being redirected and the corresponding mention of it in Isle Madame (Nova Scotia) was removed a few years ago. I've no idea if the place is notable in any way. older ≠ wiser 20:28, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Saint John Rivers[edit]
Delete because it's nonsense, as pointed out by in this summary] by User:Masato.harada Enyavar (talk) 18:18, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete The name of the Jane Eyre character is St John Rivers. Even if the redirect page's name were corrected, there is no reason for its existence compared with dozens of other characters of equal importance in the novel. Masato.harada (talk) 18:57, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- admittedly uninformed, but i'd say weak keep as a plausible-ish spelling, as is the case with "john saint john" redirecting to the "proper" name. on another note, is there some weird technical reason the nomination was improperly formatted? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 19:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Cogsan. I don't see how this is implausible at all, especially if one heard it aurally. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 23:46, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Please note that I came across it when searching for the various Saint John Rivers, and that disambiguation page already lists the character but also provides links to the more likely meanings. If we keep it, change the target to the disamb page. (And if you want properly formatted nominations, I suggest streamlining this byzantine nomination procedure.) --Enyavar (talk) 05:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Re "if heard aurally": the name St John is pronounced Sinjen, not Saint John, so there should be no confusion. Masato.harada (talk) 08:00, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- See, the problem is that is assuming the reader would know that's the correct pronunciation. I personally would assume it would be "Saint John" being from the U.S. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 00:27, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Saint John River per Enyavar. The character is listed there, and it's a plausible search term. Tevildo (talk) 17:57, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I originally created the redirect as it was a quiz bowl answer in Wikipedia:Stanford Archive answers. Cheers, Jack (talk) 11:08, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Super Nintend[edit]
- Super Nintend → Super Nintendo Entertainment System (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
implausible misspelling, search function will complete it anywa cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:29, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: From my own notes in the redirect, a pirated game cartridge had used that misspelling (I don't remember which one) WhisperToMe (talk) 20:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete not a plausible misspelling and unless the pirated cartridge is mentioned somewhere is not relevant to this discussion.--67.70.101.117 (talk) 21:00, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete WP:RDEL #8. Extremely obscure from my searches, only finding apparent typos. Ca talk to me! 15:02, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:RTYPO, as it only has one error. I do not find it implausible, especially given WhisperToMe's compelling statement. If this has occurred on official material, it may be a redirect with possibilities (i.e we may cover it somewhere or someday). — Godsy (TALKCONT) 17:15, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- While I see some typos as plausible I don’t see missing the O in Nintendo as likely it’s not something like a silent letter or unusual combination of letters where a typo would be more expected. Also I don’t believe the existence of a pirate cart that hasn’t appeared to be covered anywhere on Wikipedia for the 12 year period that this redirect existed as compelling whatsoever. Finally, while I may be wrong, I see keeping this because we may at a later date cover the pirate cart to be a WP:CRYSTAL issue--67.70.101.117 (talk) 16:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney(Episodes)[edit]
- Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney(Episodes) → Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
malformed cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:08, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete it was at this title for a day and a bit in 2006. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:21, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete No one would use this a search term.--67.70.101.117 (talk) 02:25, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:RDAB. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 17:08, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Your Mileage May Vary[edit]
- Your Mileage May Vary → TV Tropes#YMMV (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
used in other places as well, though the title case might imply something more specific. retarget to your mileage may vary (which is itself a soft redirect to wiktionary), or leave as is? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:25, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Your mileage may vary. The phrase hasn't been part of the TV Tropes article since it was removed in 2021. The only proper name in an article is an unreferenced mention of a short story in The Morganville Vampires series. I think it would be more helpful to readers to direct them to the Wiktionary article instead of an obscure story. - Eureka Lott 02:24, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Crosswiki to Wiktionary - We don't have an article or any other information on this phrase, may as well get the searcher to its definition since we have that. Fieari (talk) 06:15, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Since Wiktionary doesn't cover the capitalized version, I'm assuming you mean wikt:your mileage may vary. Your mileage may vary is already a soft redirect to that page, so we should point the capitalized version there to eliminate the need to maintain multiple Wiktionary redirects. - Eureka Lott 17:02, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete We already have the lowercase version going to Wiktionary, that's pretty much all that is needed. This is redundant. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:58, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- retarget to Your mileage may vary. Searching in title case for something commonly abbreviated in allcaps is highly plausible and some methods of finding Wikipedia content are case sensitive. We gain absolutely nothing by deletion. Thryduulf (talk) 13:25, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Brown hat[edit]
Not mentioned at current redirect article. GnocchiFan (talk) 15:58, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
The two Johns[edit]
- The two Johns → They Might Be Giants (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
what makes those two specific johns "the", as opposed to john and john from john and john, or any other combination of two johns? doesn't seem related to "gigantic (a tale of two johns)", which is about those two specific johns, but doesn't necessarily make those of all johns "the" cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 13:39, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
This Might Be A Wiki[edit]
- This Might Be A Wiki → They Might Be Giants (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
really funny, but only linked at the end of the article (and cited 4 times, which i will provide no input on), and not mentioned otherwise cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep for now. As it stands, this is a correctly targeted redirect-- while it's a tiny amount of information, it IS still SOME information that we have regarding the redirect title. However, and this is such a big however that I'm going to put it in bold, I don't believe this piece of information should stay on the article. While tmbw.net boasts that the official They Might Be Giants site links to them (in multiple places), the current site... doesn't. And not only are there no citations for the inclusion of TMBW on the Wikipedia page, I also don't believe they're a reliable source; it's in the same ballpark as WP:FANDOM-- heck, TMBW's own About page mentions that Wikia (which later became Fandom) offered to host the wiki on their servers, and they declined because they... wanted more control than Wikia offered?That said, at the end of the day, this is a discussion about the redirect, not the information being redirected to. And as it stands, the information is there-- so if someone wants to find it, this is where it is. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 03:33, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Pignas[edit]
- Pignas → Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog#Reception (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
unlikely misspelling of "pingas"? if it's not deleted, i'll suggest retargeting to youtube poop, while i make a not as misspelled redirect to it cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:37, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- oh wait, "pingas" is already a redirect to a dab. leave that one as is (give or take a mention of it in the dab), or retarget it to ytp? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:40, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Line 4 (Singapore MRT)[edit]
- Line 4 (Singapore MRT) → North–South MRT line (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Line 5 (Singapore MRT) → North–South MRT line (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Line 6 (Singapore MRT) → North East MRT line (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Line 7 (Singapore MRT) → North East MRT line (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Line 8 (Singapore MRT) → Circle MRT line (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Line 9 (Singapore MRT) → Circle MRT line (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Line 10 (Singapore MRT) → Circle MRT line (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Line 11 (Singapore MRT) → Downtown MRT line (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Line 12 (Singapore MRT) → Downtown MRT line (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Line 13 (Singapore MRT) → Thomson–East Coast MRT line (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Line 14 (Singapore MRT) → Thomson–East Coast MRT line (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Proposing to Delete. Reiterating my rationale at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 15#Line 1 (Singapore MRT). These lines have never been referred to as Line 4, Line 5, etc, but rather directly by their names (Circle MRT line, Downtown MRT line etc). A quick Google search brings up the line numbers in order of their opening (For example, when I search for "Line 5 Singapore MRT", Google brings up Downtown MRT line, which was the fifth line to open in SG, as the first result). Given this, I find it to be an inaccurate search term at best, and if I were to go further, an invalid search term. S5A-0043Talk 07:53, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
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Notorious Software Patents[edit]
- Notorious Software Patents → List of software patents (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unused (no pageviews in 90 days) redirect of unlikely editorialization and capitalizaiton. Nat Gertler (talk) 04:16, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete The list does say some patents have "achieved notoriety in other ways", but not all patents listed are "notorious" (if we are editorializing here), and the list isn't about patent controversies anyways. Misleadings and unlikely search term. Ca talk to me! 06:27, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Not WP:NPOV. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:20, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- FYI redirects do not need to be neutral per WP:RNEUTRAL. Ca talk to me! 14:59, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Some software patents have been described as "notorious" by reliable sources, so it is a reasonable search term, and it is reasonable (and not uncommon) for a more specific search term to redirect to a broader article. However someone using this search term is almost certainly looking for either a list of software patents that are (or have been called) notorious or information on what makes a software patent notorious, but that information is not in the target article or the main article about software patents, making the redirect misleading. Thryduulf (talk) 15:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Acoustic punk[edit]
- Acoustic punk → Acoustic music (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I disambiguated acoustic punk with links to acoustic music, folk punk, antifolk, and gypsy punk, however, it was restored to its original redirect, and there appears to be some confusion on the acoustic punk talk page, so am listing it here to get consensus on whether the redirect or disambiguation page is more appropriate. I feel like the disambiguation page would work better because folk music is acoustic, and folk punk, antifolk, and gypsy punk can be performed acousticly sans electric amplification. Moline1 (talk) 03:56, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- As I explained on the talk page, this could perhaps be a broad concept article, but not a disambiguation page at present. None of these articles are ambiguously titled with the term "acoustic punk" and at present, none of them even so much as mention the term. If the articles are updated to provide some indication as to why they are suitable for inclusion on a dab for "acoustic punk", that could work as well, but otherwise a broad concept article is needed to provide context for these unambiguously titled articles. older ≠ wiser 09:01, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Convert to disambig - A disambiguation page is more helpful than being redirected to a more general page (ie. Acoustic music). Users who want Acoustic music can click on that link, users who are looking for a more specific acoustic punk subgenre are presented with a list of them to chose from. The previous DAB was lacking a clarifying introduction though. BugGhost🪲👻 09:53, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- At present, none of the articles contain any indication that they are ambiguous with the term. These articles may be conceptually related topics, but strictly speaking the current titles and content of the articles are not ambiguous. older ≠ wiser 10:18, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Moline isn't suggesting that articles like Folk punk and Celtic punk etc are ambiguous - they are saying that the term Acoustic punk is ambiguous, which is evident seeing as we are disagreeing on the topic. Seeing as that term is ambiguous, we should disambiguate it. BugGhost🪲👻 11:52, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- The problem is that at present there is no existing article that addresses that ambiguity. Why should we direct readers to articles like folk punk or celtic punk that say nothing directly about "acoustic punk"? older ≠ wiser 12:44, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- ... because they are punk subgenres that focus heavily on acoustic elements? The target articles do not need to express an ambiguity, because they are not the ones being disambiguated. Either way, I think you and I have sufficiently clarified our positions - let's put a pin in this comment thread and see what other editors say on the topic. BugGhost🪲👻 13:43, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- OK, except that's not really disambiguation -- that is more like saying we don't have an article on "acoustic punk" but here are some articles that might have some conceptual overlap. older ≠ wiser 16:21, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- ... because they are punk subgenres that focus heavily on acoustic elements? The target articles do not need to express an ambiguity, because they are not the ones being disambiguated. Either way, I think you and I have sufficiently clarified our positions - let's put a pin in this comment thread and see what other editors say on the topic. BugGhost🪲👻 13:43, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- The problem is that at present there is no existing article that addresses that ambiguity. Why should we direct readers to articles like folk punk or celtic punk that say nothing directly about "acoustic punk"? older ≠ wiser 12:44, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Moline isn't suggesting that articles like Folk punk and Celtic punk etc are ambiguous - they are saying that the term Acoustic punk is ambiguous, which is evident seeing as we are disagreeing on the topic. Seeing as that term is ambiguous, we should disambiguate it. BugGhost🪲👻 11:52, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- At present, none of the articles contain any indication that they are ambiguous with the term. These articles may be conceptually related topics, but strictly speaking the current titles and content of the articles are not ambiguous. older ≠ wiser 10:18, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Folk punk (of which celtic punk and gypsy punk are sub-genres), with which it is fairly synonymous (some sort of sourcing should be possible and a mention may be added; otherwise, {{r without mention}} for now). Hat note to antifolk, if desired. No need to do include the general concept of acoustic music in any form. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 00:47, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Moscow City[edit]
- Moscow City → Moscow International Business Center (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Are we sure that Moscow International Business Center is the primary topic for "Moscow City" (not hyphenated, but capitalised), as opposed to Moscow? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:01, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Known as such in reliable sources [5] [6]. There's a hatnote in place for those who may have somehow typed "Moscow City" to look for Moscow. 162 etc. (talk) 21:12, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- "X City" or other similar noun prefixes generally doesn't refer to a settlement unless there is a country or state with the same name such as Mexico City or New York City. Look at Manchester City and Ipswich Town for example. However there is Mezhdunarodnaya (Moscow Metro) so I'd probably suggest
disambiguate, either a separate DAB page or redirecting to Mexico (disambiguation). Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:24, 1 July 2024 (UTC)- Moscow City should be the primary topic ahead of the metro station named for it. The existing hatnote is fine. See Empower Field at Mile High / Empower Field at Mile High station, Powell Street / Powell Street station, etc... 162 etc. (talk) 16:46, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- OK keep then. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:34, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Moscow City should be the primary topic ahead of the metro station named for it. The existing hatnote is fine. See Empower Field at Mile High / Empower Field at Mile High station, Powell Street / Powell Street station, etc... 162 etc. (talk) 16:46, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Moscow Even with capitalising "C" in the word "City", the city of Moscow is still the primary topic. 103.111.100.82 (talk) 07:37, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:11, 9 July 2024 (UTC)- Keep. Given the Moscow International Business Center is known as Moscow-City, I'd say WP:DIFFCAPS is enough to keep this one. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 01:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Moscow per the IP above. Moscow-City already exists and is appropriately targeted to the business center; it is important to consider that, according to the article, this is a romanization of a Russian term. This begs the question of how widespread usage of this term is in English usage. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 18:19, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Mexican Avocado Dispute[edit]
- Mexican Avocado Dispute → Avocado#Avocado-related international trade issues (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
there isn't anything in the article about a dispute and the section to which this links no longer exists. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:37, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment if this deleted, the link at Dispute settlement in the World Trade Organization#See also should be removed. Thryduulf (talk) 10:40, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment The relevant portion of the target was removed in this February 2021 edit by Zefr with the rationale "trim outdated trade issues section", but the follow-up sections (including all the citations) that were present at the time of the redirect creation (this version) had been removed sometime previously. Thryduulf (talk) 10:55, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
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The North Caucasus[edit]
- The North Caucasus → North Caucasus (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unnecessary redirect, recently created. Walsh90210 (talk) 23:54, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Harmless {{R from modification}}. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 00:33, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep per above. Adding a "the" sounds very natural in this context to me, and is a plausible search term. Ca talk to me! 06:29, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - Natural search expression. Oftentimes, the "the" is considered part of the name of something (like The Big Apple) which makes it useful to redirect. This easily feels like that sort of thing. Fieari (talk) 06:20, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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Paper Bowser[edit]
- Paper Bowser → Paper Mario (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
no game under that title yet (give them time), wouldn't the list of paper mario characters be a better target? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:20, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- oh wait
- there's no section specifically for bowser there, and his article doesn't mention him in paper mario beyond "he was there". forget retargeting, i vote to delete as unhelpful cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:51, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Keeping under the idea that they might make a game with that title is pointless WP:CRYSTAL-gazing, and unfounded to boot. As it stands now, we have no information at all regarding Bowser's inclusion in the Paper Mario series, nor any other place where something might be known as 'Paper Bowser'. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 01:52, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, although he really should have a section at list of Paper Mario characters. QuicoleJR (talk) 03:26, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. --Un assiolo (talk) 15:13, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - We lack information on this topic, and shouldn't claim we have it when we don't. Sometimes the mere existence of a redirect can be informative even without a mention, but this is not one of those cases. Fieari (talk) 07:28, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
City of Auckland[edit]
- City of Auckland → Auckland City (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The City of Auckland is a distinct entity from Auckland City. It is not discussed in proper detail in the Auckland article nor the Auckland City article. I do believe it has the merits to meet notability on it's own: e.g. https://www.gutenberg.org/files/46925/46925-h/46925-h.htm Deletion would be the best option as it doesn't mislead readers into a different entity and might encourage someone to create an article on it. Traumnovelle (talk) 22:25, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep All that's needed is to tag it with Template:R with possibilities. I've done so. Schwede66 08:39, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- I still don't believe it's a good redirect. Auckland City is completely different to the City of Auckland. It'd be like having New York County redirect to New York City. It is only a partial continuation in area and most of Auckland City's area is from the County of Eden. The term being redirected serves to confuse the reader into thinking City of Auckland (note the important capitalisation as a proper noun) is just another name for Auckland or Auckland City. Traumnovelle (talk) 09:14, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Write content seems to be the obvious answer here. It needn't be more than a short paragraph detailing the status, extent, etc. on whichever of Auckland or Auckland City is the broader. This redirect can then be targetted there. Thryduulf (talk) 09:43, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe there should be an article on the district that has existed since 2010 just like City of York deals with the district that was created in 1996 even though there was one that existed from 1835 to 1996. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:43, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Any further thoughts?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 04:07, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- I agree there should be content but in the absence of it I do not believe the current redirect is appropriate as it is misleading. Traumnovelle (talk) 04:09, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:RETURNTORED. The current target is misleading, there's potential for an article, redlinking it can encourage article creation. Fieari (talk) 06:56, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Also notified of this discussion at the talk of the creator and target pages.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 19:01, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Mario Paint Wii[edit]
- Mario Paint Wii → Mario Paint (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
no confirmed relation with the wii. don't quote me on this part since i'm unfortunately not the biggest mariopainthead out there, but nothing i found suggests that it or a related game was ever even released on the wii cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 18:34, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. --Un assiolo (talk) 15:16, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Elpincha:2D[edit]
- Elpincha:2D → Theory of the two demons (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This title is pointless because "Elpincha" is only the name of the user who wrote the original content under this redirect (see history), and "2D" is short for "two demons". The unsourced 2005 content has a SNOW chance of being merged into the main article, and based on the edit summary of "counterweight to the current article" we can infer that it was probably an attempt at creating a fork. Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 18:33, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- delete as fake pseudo namespace cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 18:54, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as a redirect that will never be used. QuicoleJR (talk) 03:28, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Sportacus 9[edit]
there are theories that robbie rotten was the previous sportacus and wore the number 9, though they have little to no evidence that could be used here. retarget to his article, keep as is, or delete as fancruft? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 18:03, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep redirect to sportacus. Robbie rotten and number 9 (sportacus 9) are not the same person. Robbie and number 9 where butting heads (see https://web.archive.org/web/20040108161211/http://www.lazytown.com/pages/about/concept/theoriginsstory.html ). Robbie later became Robbie rotten (see https://web.archive.org/web/20031225235205/http://www.lazytown.com/pages/about/concept/robbierotten.html). Number 9 (sportacus 9) has much more similarities with sportacus 10 (the current sportacus) than Robbie, so that redirect makes sense for now. Snævar (talk) 14:47, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Sportacandy[edit]
unlikely misspelling of "sportscandy"? i'm pretty sure most people would notice the typo and correct it around the n. unless it's meant to be a pun on "sportacus", in which case retarget to sportacus and then delete cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:56, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- The LazyTown fandom wiki actually states that the character Ziggy uses "Sportacandy" as an alter ego-- something attested to in our article from all the way back before the 2007 creation of this redirect, all the way to September 2014-- when it was removed because Sportacandy was listed as its own character, when in reality, it's... just Ziggy. It's plausible to edit the Ziggy section to include a reference to Sportacandy, although I'll note that there's a considerable dearth of citations even in the current version of the section, much less the original Sportacandy section.However, more pressing is that there's really no other place this redirect COULD go. Even throwing out the Sportacandy alter ego of Ziggy, the redirect is still a simple portmanteau of "Sportacus", a character from this show, and "Sports Candy", a name given to fruits and vegetables by Sportacus in the show (and mentioned repeatedly in the article)-- someone could easily misremember "Sports Candy" as "Sportacandy" for this reason. This, combined *with* the fact that said portmanteau can't properly be filed under WP:NEO because it is a name used in the show, means we should keep. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 02:15, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- okay yeah fair enough i forgot about that part, weak keep cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:10, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Change redirect to LazyTown#Ziggy. Like lunamann wrote, Sportacandy is just the alter ego of Ziggy. I also think the removed sportacandy text from LazyTown should be re-added to Ziggy. That the same person is behind both characters does justify presenting it differently, but not removing it.--Snævar (talk) 15:49, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Tone (color)[edit]
- Tone (color) → Lightness (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Tone (color theory) → Tint, shade and tone (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
These two redirects should point to the same article. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:40, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Tone is an ambiguous term? There are separate articles about color and color theory – and color science! – and colorimetry and color appearance model! In English, "tone" has many meanings; the applicable meaning here is " The shade or quality of a colour." (disambiguation of an ambiguous term by a definition which uses more ambiguous terms). Is there really such a thing as color quality (quality (color)?? – wbm1058 (talk) 10:02, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 04:07, 1 July 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 17:00, 8 July 2024 (UTC)- Target both to Tint, shade and tone. The Lightness article has four mentions of the word Tone according to ctrl-f: the first is a link to Tint, shade and tone that pretty much rephrases that article's title ("Tints, shades, and tones"), the second is a See Also link that also goes to Tint, shade and tone, the third is a third link to Tint, shade and tone, this time as part of the Color Topics template, and the fourth is a link to Pantone that's also in the Color Topics template. From this we can easily deduce that the information someone looking for when they search Tone (color) is *not* on the Lightness page itself, and is instead on the Tint, Shade and Tone page. Retarget as appropriate. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:25, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget Tone (color theory) to Color theory#Tints and shades, while altering the section heading and including a brief mention of tone. Delete Tone (color) as vague, unless a strong and unambiguous target can be presented (unmentioned at color). — Godsy (TALKCONT) 16:46, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget both to Tint, shade and tone per Lunamann. If someone wants some other meaning of tone in relation to colour they can find it from that article. Thryduulf (talk) 12:51, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Bawang putih[edit]
its indonesian and malay name. while they seem sort of associated enough, as malaysia and around half of indonesia are in southeast asia, the names and those two countries aren't mentioned in the target at all cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:47, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:RFOR. While I'm sure Malay and Indonesia use a lot of garlic in their cooking, so does most of the rest of the world, and so I don't think this is a topic closely associated enough with these countries to pass policy. Fieari (talk) 07:30, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Skorodon[edit]
results gave me unrelated plants, funny-looking rocks with no relation to each other, and... really, everything besides garlic. seems to be a romanization of one of two ancient greek names for garlic, but i only found that by digging around wiktionary cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:41, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Possibly retarget to Allium as an {{A2r}} from Scorodon? It looks like a plausible misspelling but then the question becomes, is "Scorodon" a valid redirect in the first place? Nickps (talk) 17:49, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- i'd say leave scorodon as is, but then delete skorodon as "clearly you know some greek if you're looking for this, so there's no excuse to misspell it" cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:52, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think that's right. According to romanisation of Greek, skorodon is a valid romanisation under the system the Library of Congress uses. Nickps (talk) 13:06, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- i'd say leave scorodon as is, but then delete skorodon as "clearly you know some greek if you're looking for this, so there's no excuse to misspell it" cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:52, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Microsoft® Windows® Operating System® Redirects With Pointless Legalese© Unicode® Characters™[edit]
- Windows® → Microsoft Windows (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Microsoft® Windows® → Microsoft Windows (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Microsoft® Windows® Operating System → Microsoft Windows (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
apparently previously subject to an RFD™ that ended in a TrainWreck©, consensus currently seems more inclined to delete redirects with copyright or trademark symbols CogSan© (Forum) (Our Portfolio) 16:20, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- forgot to link the rfd, oops. here it is. should someone try nominating all the remaining redirects again? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:30, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete all. While that RfD did mention the possibility of using ® as a disambiguator (separating, say, a search for Apple the fruit from a search for Apple Inc.), that's not applicable here-- the word Microsoft (and the words Operating System) are already disambiguator words, but even with the first one that has neither, Windows already goes to Microsoft Windows instead of Window. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:32, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Windows®, delete the rest. I agree that the lower two lack sufficient disambiguating strength to be kept, and they are unlikely search terms. However, there are reasonable things one could search for with the search term "Windows", and it wouldn't be unreasonable to have someone who knows their unicode shortcuts attempt to search Windows® to find the product. As such, I think this one ought be split. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 23:15, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed They might not realize windows already redirect to the product, and add a symbol to disambiguate naturally. The rest is plain excessive and unlikely. Ca talk to me! 06:32, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete all The search function exists for a reason, we don't need to account for every obscure version of a name or unusual typo someone may possibly make once every 50 billion years. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:55, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Windows®, reasonable just like Microsoft®. Would likely be okay with Microsoft Windows®, if it existed. No opinion on the others. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 16:57, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Windows® per Godsy, Red-tailed hawk and Ca. If you have a compose key setup (and many people do) then it's exactly as easy to type ® as it as accented characters like é, ç and ŵ. (composeor and compose(r are both standard on at least my version of Linux), and it's also possible to copy and paste from somewhere else. Weak keep Microsoft® Windows® as it's plausible to copy that from some marketing or legalese somewhere. Delete the one with operating system as that's very unlikely. Thryduulf (talk) 13:03, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Windows®, delete the rest: As the restricted symbol does seem like a natural disambiguator for someone who doesn't know Windows already goes to the page for Microsoft Windows while the rest are implausible search terms. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 17:38, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Tighten[edit]
not entirely sure megamind as a franchise has dominion over the public perception of this specific word, or that tight would be a good target cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 15:47, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to wikt:tighten and hatnote to the previous target, essentially per nom. Duckmather (talk) 18:12, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate. Per WP:SSRT,
only topics with a less-than-encyclopedic scope that are commonly wikified words or that are repeatedly recreated should become soft redirects
(emphases mine). This word is neither commonly wikified (indeed, there are no mainspace links that point to it), nor has it been repeatedly recreated. But because it might reasonably be a search term for multiple items on Wikipedia, and none seem like an easy primary topic, a dab page should suffice. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 23:12, 8 July 2024 (UTC)- What would you place on a disambiguation page for this term? There are over 10,000 uses of tighten (or variants like tightens, tightened, and tightening) in the mainspace. I couldn't review them all, but from what I did see, there aren't enough candidates to justify creating a disambiguation page. - Eureka Lott 04:35, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Like Eureka Lott, I struggled to find alternative candidates to list on a DAB page. I concur with Red-tailed hawk that a soft redirect is unhelpful here. In the absence of other suitable targets, I see no reason to change from the present one. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 23:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - agreeing with Presidentman, unless there's a few good suggestions for the contents of a DAB, I think it should remain as-is. I don't think the existing redirect is helpful to many people, but I don't think moving it to anywhere else would be an improvement either, so keep. BugGhost🪲👻 10:57, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Lua cites[edit]
- Wikipedia:Lua cites → Module:Citation/CS1 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Completely implausible search term and unused as a shortcut as the empty WLH shows. If kept, it should be dabified between its current target and Module:Citation/CS2. Nickps (talk) 13:47, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
if you are going to propose deleting Wikipedia:Lua cites, you should also propose deleting these, just as unused, redirects:
- Template:Citation/lua – links
Template:Cite book/lua – linksTemplate:Cite encyclopedia/lua – linksTemplate:Cite journal/lua – linksTemplate:Cite news/lua – linksTemplate:Cite press release/lua – linksTemplate:Cite web/lua – links
These redirects are stepping-stone artifacts left behind in the process of creating Module:Citation/CS1. They are no longer needed or used.
—Trappist the monk (talk) 14:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Well, Template:Cite book/lua → Module:Cite book would make sense too, ditto for the others. It's certainly more plausible than WP:Lua cites. Nickps (talk) 14:26, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'd forgotten about those modules so repointing the redirects seems the appropriate thing to do. Can I just do that or will someone's panties get in a bunch because of 'process'?
- —Trappist the monk (talk) 14:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Considering that none of these templates are actually nominated for RfD, retargeting right away should be fine. Nickps (talk) 14:47, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done, except for Template:Citation/lua → Module:Citation. That module exists as a nonfunctioning placeholder. It is the parent of Module:Citation/CS1 and was retained pursuant to a 2018 TfD.
- —Trappist the monk (talk) 15:13, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'll open a separate
RfDTfD for that one. Nickps (talk) 15:16, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'll open a separate
- Considering that none of these templates are actually nominated for RfD, retargeting right away should be fine. Nickps (talk) 14:47, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
The Three Mage-Sisters[edit]
- The Three Mage-Sisters → Characters of the Kirby series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
They are not on the list. The one game they appear in, Kirby Star Allies, is a potential target but that article does not use this name for them. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:39, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- i'd say mention the name in star allies cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 15:48, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- did it, so i'll vote for retargeting to kirby star allies cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:26, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Shinespark[edit]
- Shinespark → Characters of the Metroid series#Etecoons and Dachora (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The section only mentions it once and in passing. No description of it is given. Also, this is a gameplay feature and not a character. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Metroid#Gameplay, I found a decent mention of it here that can easily be added. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:59, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Nuzlocke[edit]
"Nuzlocke" is not mentioned in the target article. Nuzlocke section was removed from the article in January 2023 and seems no one objected: [7]. In 2015, Nuzlocke article was redirected to Pokémon after an AfD. Mika1h (talk) 13:16, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of video games-related deletion discussions. Mika1h (talk) 13:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- It seems like you didn't actually add the RfD to the delsort list. It has to be added manually over there, like this. In this case, I replaced a closed RfD with this one. Nickps (talk) 14:52, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- The redirects weren't tagged either. Nickps (talk) 17:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, forgot to do that. --Mika1h (talk) 17:28, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- The redirects weren't tagged either. Nickps (talk) 17:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- It seems like you didn't actually add the RfD to the delsort list. It has to be added manually over there, like this. In this case, I replaced a closed RfD with this one. Nickps (talk) 14:52, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- i think a mention in gameplay of pokémon would work, but hopefully with better sources than the ones removed in that diff. put my vote on hold until i remember to look for that cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 15:54, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'd say re-add the information, although finding new sources would be a good improvement. On the contrary to user:Juxlos's judgement that the Nuzlocke Challenge is "nothing special" because "there are multiple fan-made modes": most of them are based on or inspired by the Nuzlocke, and AFAIK the ones that aren't come from the speedrunning community. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:43, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- I must note here that my removal of Nuzlocke is a WP:DUE thing, not a WP:GNG. I have no objections to its notability, though I objected to its inclusion in the main article the same way I would object to including Pokémon Sage or Pokémon Fossil Museum in the main article. Juxlos (talk) 03:40, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Information about it should be re-added to the article, it was wrongly removed. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:53, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- WP:RETURNTORED - Nuzlocke could easily be turned into an article, there's decent number of sources about it, eg: [8], [9], [10], [11], [12] and it's mentioned in 14 different Wikipedia articles. (My second preference would be keep/reinstate into Pokemon) BugGhost🪲👻 09:37, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Hardcore Gamer (website)[edit]
- Hardcore Gamer (website) → Gamer#Dedication spectrum (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The target page mentions the concept of a "hardcore gamer" but bears no reference to the website of that name. IceWelder [✉] 08:11, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - We do not appear to cover the parent company of the publication, i.e. Valnet, Inc. It is, however, listed at Valnet. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 10:56, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete since there is no article for the parent company per above. LBWP2 (talk) 01:08, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no[edit]
- No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no → I'm Not a Juvenile Delinquent (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- No no no no no no no no → I'm Not a Juvenile Delinquent (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Too ambiguous a term to redirect to one song with lyrics that repeat the word "no". Walsh90210 (talk) 04:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I understand how ambiguous it gets when it comes to this song regarding the memorable "no, no, no" line. I mean what if there are new songs that use the same line? Inajd Inajd0101 (talk) 05:05, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- "No Limit"? "Rehab"? Delete per nom as ambiguous. Tevildo (talk) 11:16, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's fair. Inajd Inajd0101 (talk) 02:28, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- "No Limit"? "Rehab"? Delete per nom as ambiguous. Tevildo (talk) 11:16, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - not helpful, too ambiguous BugGhost🪲👻 11:42, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- could be just as easily associated with stardust crusaders or babysitting mama, so delete as vague cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 15:51, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Do we keep this extremely vague redirect? What do you say, cat? No no no no no no no no? Very well then, we Delete. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:46, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Also, you're funny. Inajd Inajd0101 (talk) 04:28, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - Too many potential targets, and not a distinct enough text string to be worth a disambiguator. Repeatedly saying "no" is not a unique expression that is linked to any one work, it's just a common way of expressing dismay, distress, or emphatic rejection! I mean, Lunamann's humorous cat video shows this pretty well, as does anyone who has ever dealt with a toddler for more than five minutes. Fieari (talk) 06:01, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
2015-16 Missouri Valley Conference men's basketball season[edit]
- 2015-16 Missouri Valley Conference men's basketball season → 2015–16 Evansville Purple Aces men's basketball team (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This appears to be an oddly specific way to handle a basketball season for an entire conference. I think this is better left as a redlink to encourage future creation, rather than as a redirect to the season for a single team. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 04:20, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Philippe, Charles[edit]
- Philippe, Charles → Charles Philippe (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Charles-Philippe is a compound given name, so this comma format doesn't make any sense and should be deleted. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:12, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- No objection, if this is not an actual sort name it can be speedied. BD2412 T 01:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as an incorrect sort name. I thought about proposing redirection to Philippe Charles which I just made, but that would cause too much confusion as it looks like a sort key. Nickps (talk) 11:34, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
July 7[edit]
Brohoof[edit]
- Brohoof → My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic fandom (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Useless redirect — the term is not mentioned in the target article at all. (The article i was looking is for is Fist bump — it's a non-neutral name for that, and not mentioned in that article either) 2002:57CF:EE0A:1:E989:4C91:CB45:4CA (talk) 21:05, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - not mentioned anywhere, no clear target BugGhost🪲👻 11:48, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Now corrected: keep. Drmies (talk) 16:24, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as it is now mentioned at the target and is heavily associated with the brony fanbase. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 01:21, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per well sourced due-weight addition to the article. Fieari (talk) 06:28, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Blagger[edit]
- Blagger → Social engineering (security)#Pretexting (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This was flagged up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation#Searching for "Blagger" currently redirects to a page with no mention of the word. by user:Oathed with the comment seems weird that it doesn't link or disambig to Blagger (video game). Not sure how to mark a page for "Disambig page needed".
At the very least this does need a hatnote to the video game, but I'm not acutally sure the video game isn't the primary target. Neither the present target nor Pretexting (linked as the main article) use the term. The only other uses I'm finding (Blaggers ITA (formerly known as The Blaggers) and The Blaggers Guide would be at most see-alsos on a dab page.
The video game article was created at this title but moved in March 2018 by Zxcvbnm with the summary "Merge, in order to disambiguate" but they just changed the redirect target and added a hatnote. The hatnote was removed without explanation by an IP in 2020, but the mention of "blagging" had been removed in July 2018 as part of a cull of unreferenced information by Michaelgt123. None of "blag", "blagging" or "blagger" has ever been included in the Pretext article. Thryduulf (talk) 20:27, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete and move Blagger (video game) to it.
- The redirect made at least some sense at the time it was created. The article Pretext, as it appeared at the time, was about the general well-understood meaning of a "pretext"; a reason given in justification of a course of action that is not the real reason. It had only a single paragraph describing the social engineering trick.
- Meanwhile, the article Social engineering (security), as it appeared at the time, in the section Pretexting, said "Pretexting..., also known in the UK as blagging". So that made at least some sense as a target (although even then, I think the video game article would have been a more appropriate target).
- The video game seems pretty clearly to be the primary use for "Blagger"; if the "blagging" text is re-added to the Social engineering (security) article (as it probably should, there seems to be sufficient documentation of that, e.g., [13] at the BBC), it can be dealt with by ordinary disambiguation (hatnote or a Blagger (disambiguation) page, as appropriate). TJRC (talk) 02:39, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- The page mover / redirect creator Zxcvbnm was notified in the nomination, however I have just notified at the talk page as well. Jay 💬 11:24, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate "Blagging" is another term for social engineering (see here and here). If that isn't the primary topic, then it should be disambiguated between social engineering (security) and the game, not have the game moved back here. That would be the height of folly when it could simply be re-added with a single sentence referenced to a reliable source. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:00, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Should the page Blagger be a disambiguation page?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ca talk to me! 08:46, 30 May 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Is there a primary topic?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 08:26, 11 June 2024 (UTC)- Delete, move Blagger (video game) to it, then add a hatnote. "Blagging" is an informal term in UK that has similarities to social engineering, but it's not quite the same thing - it's just a phrase that sort of means "bullshitter", someone who can make up lies quickly - social engineers will blag, but not all blaggers are social engineers. For example most improv comedians are good blaggers, but that doesn't mean they are doing anything nefarious. Seeing as Blagger (video game) exists, it should be the primary topic. BugGhost🪲👻 13:53, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- It's also not exclusively lying per se - it includes things like asking for something you know you aren't entitled to on the off-chance that the person you're asking wont check, presenting truths misleadingly or selectively. It is very significantly broader than social engineering. Thryduulf (talk) 11:51, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- With The Blaggers now thrown into the mix, I wouldn't be against a disambiguation page. I still think Blagger (video game) is the primary topic here (it is the only topic being discussed that actually universally uses the name "Blagger"), but a disambiguation is far better than keeping the existing pretexting redirect. BugGhost🪲👻 15:24, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete and move the video game here, for lack of any other acceptable outcome as the social engineering article does not mention it and nobody has been willing to add a mention in weeks of being at RfD. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:27, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Move back the video game to Blagger per others, and hatnote to The Blaggers. Whether or not the current target has a mention, there needs to be mention at Pretexting, for disambiguating or hatnoting, and we don't. Jay 💬 05:35, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate per my draft. An important factor here is "blag" at Glossary of British terms not widely used in the United States, and The dictionary definition of Blagger at Wiktionary. A disambiguation page gives the reader access to those. Social engineering (security)#Pretexting can be added only if there's a legitimate mention. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:44, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate per Shhhnotsoloud since there is no primary topic. There appears to be 3-4 terms it could refer to: the game, the band, the British slang term (with an entry at Glossary of British terms not widely used in the United States) and the social engineering definition which does appear to be referenced in sources. A disambiguation page also gives the reader access to the Wiktionary definition. C F A 💬 04:21, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I have added a referenced mention to blagging at Social engineering (security)#Pretexting. C F A 💬 04:32, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Apologies for relisting this again after being open so long, but I would appreciate additional comments considering CFA's recent addition of the term at the target. So, disambiguate or move the video game article to this title?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 18:41, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate or move the video game here, no clear primary topic. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Botswanan[edit]
It should redirect to Motswana. Not sure why this got reverted, the authority is wikitionary or however you spell it. Botswanan is not a proper word. [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] OK I think I’ve made my point. 48JCL 01:54, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- oops wrong place 48JCL 01:55, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- @48JCL: I have reverted your bold retarget and restored the redirect with the RfD tag as nominated to allow for proper consensus to be reached on where to target this. As stated at WP:RFD,
please do not unilaterally rename or change the target of a redirect while it is under discussion
. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 04:27, 18 June 2024 (UTC) - Comment 48JCL I think you maybe need to give a bit more of an argument for why it should be retargeted. Even if Botswanan isn't a "proper" word I think for most readers the main Botswana article is a good target; it also mentions the Tswana people in the lead paragraph for example. Skynxnex (talk) 15:22, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- "Botswanan" not being 'a proper word' isn't really an issue-- the question is if it's *a plausible word*. Adding an -n, -an, or -ian suffix to the name of a place is a typical English way of signifying "from this place" or "people from this place", see American, Mexican, Canadian, Italian, ect, just like "-ish" (English, Spanish, ect) or "-ese" (Japanese, Chinese, Portuguese, ect). I can easily see someone unfamiliar with the term Batswana to invent terms like Botswanese, Botswanish, or, yes, Botswanan.That said, I would
Retargetto the Tswana DAB, simply to match the other 'from this place' words above. The searcher is clearly looking for information on *something* from Botswana- let's both inform them of the correct term, AND offer up the multiple meanings for said word. After all, who's to say they're not looking for the language they speak in Botswana? 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 15:46, 18 June 2024 (UTC)- Comment @Lunamann, the proper denonym is at Motswana. 48JCL 13:14, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- That... definitely presents an issue, given part of the reason I targeted the Tswana DAB was its link to Tswana language; many demonyms also serve as a name for the language that group uses (see English, Chinese, German, ect); and given Botswanan is a made-up and incorrect demonym, there's really nothing stopping someone from also using it as an incorrect name for the language.The only idea I have is, to retarget to the Motswana DAB, and then add a See Also that targets the Tswana DAB? 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 14:10, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Lunamann: Yes, that does seem to be a problem; I will ping Lefcentreright and John, who were able to somewhat eradicate the term from the Wikipedia and replace it with proper terms. 48JCL 22:33, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- That... definitely presents an issue, given part of the reason I targeted the Tswana DAB was its link to Tswana language; many demonyms also serve as a name for the language that group uses (see English, Chinese, German, ect); and given Botswanan is a made-up and incorrect demonym, there's really nothing stopping someone from also using it as an incorrect name for the language.The only idea I have is, to retarget to the Motswana DAB, and then add a See Also that targets the Tswana DAB? 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 14:10, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment @Lunamann, the proper denonym is at Motswana. 48JCL 13:14, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to the dab per Lunamann. The word appears in dictionaries (Cambridge, Oxford) and is used by reliable sources such as the United States Mission to the United Nations, Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the People's Republic of China, Cardiff University and Florida State University among others as well as lots of other sites I haven't bothered to assess for reliability. Even if it isn't a "proper word" (which seems doubtful given that evidence) it is very much a plausible search term. Thryduulf (talk) 16:53, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment What about creating a disambiguation page that points to Botswana, Tswana people and Tswana language? --Error (talk) 09:48, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think this is the better solution. The sources that Thryduulf has included in their comment show that "Botswanan" refers just as much to the country itself as it does to the people or language. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 18:30, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- I wouldn't be opposed to this. Support. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 19:39, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have no objections to this. Thryduulf (talk) 10:36, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Support this, sounds like the most helpful solution. BugGhost🪲👻 09:48, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have no objections. If this is closed, the result would probably be like merge 2 articles and retarget to disambiguation. 48JCL 01:48, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: This is leading to agreement on a disambiguation page but it is unclear if the current redirect will be converted to it, or be targeted to a new disambiguation page that needs to be created.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 18:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Petapixel[edit]
Aside from the "Petapixel redirects here", not mentioned in page. I can't find any discussion of the concept of a petapixel image to see if it should be mentioned in the page, search results are completely shadowed by PetaPixel. Possibly this should redirect there? Rusalkii (talk) 18:16, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment peta- is an SI prefix. JoshuaAuble (talk) 19:15, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Fieari JoshuaAuble (talk) 02:21, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - The target doesn't discuss petapixel images by name because, to my knowledge, such a thing does not yet exist... yet if it did/when it does, it's basically the same thing as a gigapixel image except... moreso. As Joshua said above, peta is just an SI prefix after all. So I feel like the current target is a pretty good choice, and probably a better target than PetaPixel, which is a pretty low notability organization (not saying it needs to be AfD'd, just that it wouldn't make good WP:PTOPIC fare). Fieari (talk) 07:32, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Not even mentioned, much less explained or expounded upon, in the target article. Until such time as that occurs, this needs to be deleted as misleading and confusing. Softlavender (talk) 23:52, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - Totally implausible search term and pointless redirect. As Rusalkii and Softlavender said, it's nonexistent and confusing. Fieari agrees with that as an equally elaborate rationale for deletion as the nominator's rationale, but with the inexplicably wrong conclusion. It's just another of this user's bunk redirects in a campaign to attempt to coin some pet jargon, so stop making them. — Smuckola(talk) 01:42, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- This is not me making up new words, as petapixel image has redirected to gigapixel image since 2011. JoshuaAuble (talk) 19:06, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- My conclusion is the opposite of your simply because my criteria for conclusion has only two components: firstly, is it a plausible search? Peta is an SI prefix, two steps up from giga, and while nothing currently goes that far I can see someone using it a speculative fashion, so that checks plausible off for me. Secondly, is the target accurate? The target describes images with a very large number of pixels, which would cover what a petapixel image is. No other criteria for a redirect is really meaningful, and since this one meets both those criteria there's no harm in keeping it. Fieari (talk) 02:43, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- The harm in keeping it is that is worse keeping it than deleting it, because it is not mentioned, much less explained, in the target article. If you want to add the term to the target article and cite it as relating to Gigapixel image, then this discussion would be moot. As it is, encyclopedic integrity demands that it be deleted. Softlavender (talk) 04:14, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, Fieari's ability to describe how wrong he is changes nothing. I'll note that the offending user has been blocked for this kind of noise and more. — Smuckola(talk) 09:30, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- The harm in keeping it is that is worse keeping it than deleting it, because it is not mentioned, much less explained, in the target article. If you want to add the term to the target article and cite it as relating to Gigapixel image, then this discussion would be moot. As it is, encyclopedic integrity demands that it be deleted. Softlavender (talk) 04:14, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete or retarget to PetaPixel. Yes, you can probably figure out what this hypothetical term means if you land on the target. But it's not mentioned, and being a redlink or pointing to a different topic would convey it doesn't exist. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:54, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 14:18, 7 July 2024 (UTC)- Delete (effectively redirecting it to PetaPixel). Worth noting that other redirects to Gigapixel image include: Terapixel, Terapixel image, Petapixel image, Exapixel, Exapixel image, Zettapixel, Zettapixel image, Yottapixel, Yottapixel image. If this article actually covered giga (10^9) all the way up to yotta (10^24) then the article should be renamed to "High pixel count imagery" or something instead. Seeing as the article doesn't mention anything over terapixels, the Exa-, Zetta- and Yotta- redirects probably should be deleted too. BugGhost🪲👻 12:05, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Trial by jury[edit]
- Trial by jury → Jury trial (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Trial by Jury and Trial by jury go to completely different articles (the Gilbert and Sullivan opera and the legal system respectively). It's absolutely insane to have disambiguation by capitalization; clearly, the links from here to Jury trial should be replaced with a piped link. I don't think there's any other redirect where capitalisation makes a difference to which article you go to.
Trial by Jury has 581 uses, Trial by jury about 100. It would be far less disruptive to simply redirect to Trial by Jury. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.8% of all FPs. 11:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:DIFFCAPS. You may feel that the policy is insane, but it's actually standard practice. Jury trial and Trial by Jury both have appropriate hatnotes, so there's little chance of confusion. - Eureka Lott 13:18, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: per Eureka Lott rationale. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 16:41, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. If anything, Trial by Jury should be moved to Trial by Jury (opera), and the undisambiguated title then pointed to Jury trial. BD2412 T 03:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per above. Caps policy feels odd sometimes but it makes sense when the difference in caps distinguish the topics. There are a lot of articles/redirects that are separated by caps, eg. Lightning strike vs Lightning Strike; Silent Alarm vs Silent alarm, Holy fuck vs Holy Fuck, etc BugGhost🪲👻 13:02, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Strong keep - It is, actually, not uncommon for a situation like this to arise; this is already handled properly as is outlined by others above. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 09:06, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Voi.id[edit]
Wrong target, and there isn't a right one: Voi.id is an entirely different entity from Voice of Indonesia (which uses voinews.id). Herostratus (talk) 06:39, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Voice of Indonesia is a public news channels under Radio Republik Indonesia, while Voi.id is a private news channels. Despite their similar names, they are unrelated entities. Ckfasdf (talk) 15:33, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 07:21, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: per nom. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 16:43, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
2025 FIVB Men's Volleyball Nations League[edit]
- 2025 FIVB Men's Volleyball Nations League → FIVB Men's Volleyball Nations League (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No mentioned at the target page and per WP:FUTURE. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 04:56, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Delete per nom. Better be recreated as an future article if reliable sources exist.Withdrawn. Ahri Boy (talk) 05:50, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - A draft is now pending review. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:12, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
2025 FIVB Women's Volleyball Nations League[edit]
- 2025 FIVB Women's Volleyball Nations League → FIVB Women's Volleyball Nations League (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No mentioned at the target page and per WP:FUTURE. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 04:52, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Nabbit[edit]
- Nabbit → New Super Mario Bros. U#Gameplay (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The most recent RfD was closed as retarget based on Nabbit not being mentioned in List of Mario franchise characters. However, a section List of Mario franchise characters#Nabbit was added in September 2023. Should this redirect be changed to List of Mario franchise characters or should it remain at the current target which only mentions Nabbit twice in passing? Mia Mahey (talk) 02:08, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think it's controversial to redirect to List of Mario franchise characters#Nabbit. In the (likely) event that the section is removed again, it would make sense to restore the New Super Mario Bros. U#Gameplay target, where the character is mentioned. czar 03:00, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget per Czar. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:45, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget. We should always be as helpful as we can to readers, which in most cases means targetting the place they can find the most information about what it is they are looking for. That place has changed since the last time this was discussed so retargetting is clearly the best option. Thryduulf (talk) 09:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Harry Patterson[edit]
- Harry Patterson → Jack Higgins (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I propose to move the new disambiguation page, Harry Patterson (disambiguation), over this title. The current redirect subject, Jack Higgins, may well be a popular author, but his real name was "Henry Patterson" (not Harry), and he apparently only ever made limited use of the name "Harry Patterson", finally switching to "Jack Higgins" before he became famous; I therefore do not think there is a primary topic for the actual name, "Harry Patterson". BD2412 T 01:02, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Move Harry Patterson (disambiguation) to Harry Patterson, per 98Tigerius BugGhost🪲👻 12:15, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Move Harry Patterson (disambiguation) to Harry Patterson per nom. --Un assiolo (talk) 15:12, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
July 6[edit]
QTPOC[edit]
- QTPOC → LGBT (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- QTIPOC → QTPOC (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at the target page, or at List of LGBT-related acronyms. Un assiolo (talk) 22:25, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- I believe this should point to Person of color. But since it's not mentioned there, Wiktionary could solve the problem. It should be noted that this abbreviation is mentioned here, here Web-julio (talk) 01:04, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- and here, here, and here. many others Web-julio (talk) 01:05, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- QTIPOC also exists. Web-julio (talk) 01:05, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Which I added to the nomination. Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 19:33, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - someone added it to List of LGBT-related acronyms now with sourcing, so either keep the current redirect to LGBT or change the redirect to the list article. Raladic (talk) 00:26, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
Santjordia[edit]
- Santjordia → Jellyfish (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Santjordia pagesi → Jellyfish (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Monotypic genus and species has no mention in the article. Better off as a redlink.
Also should blocked users be notified if their page/redirect is up for deletion? 115.188.142.52 (talk) 20:40, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:REDLINK --Lenticel (talk) 12:38, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per REDLINK. Plantdrew (talk) 20:48, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per above. Regarding the question
should blocked users be notified if their page/redirect is up for deletion?
that depends. If their block will expire before the discussion is scheduled to end and/or there is an appeal pending, definitely yes. If the block will not expire for several months, it was an indef block placed a long while ago then generally it's not worth it but exceptions will apply. If all the indications are that they've left the project then it's of use only if an interested talk page watcher happens to spot it there and not elsewhere. Between the extremes it's a judgement call - the more recent the creation and greater relevance to their typical areas of interest the greater the likilihood of continued interest in the redirect which points towards notifying. However, don't spend too much time thinking about it - unless there is some explicit indication they don't want to be notified then err on the side of notification. Thryduulf (talk) 00:44, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Kemosabe (Kesha album)[edit]
- Kemosabe (Kesha album) → Warrior (Kesha album) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This currently redirects to Warrior (Kesha album). Kemosabe is the name of a record label that put out the album, but the album article does not mention anything about it being a name for the album itself. The article history also raises concerns about WP:HOAX as shown here. I do not see any value in keeping this redirect as it does not seem like a plausible search term and per the above reasons, it is confusing and unclear. Aoba47 (talk) 20:29, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. --Un assiolo (talk) 22:37, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 05:05, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom.--NØ 07:24, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 12:39, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia:VN[edit]
- Wikipedia:VN → Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Visual novels (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Retarget to either Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard or Wikipedia:WikiProject Vietnam. I would lean towards retargeting to RSN, considering WP:V/N links to it, but I can see an argument to link to WPVietnam. I don't see how an inactive task force should be the ideal target for this redirect. OzzyOlly (talk) 03:57, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Most of the incoming links are intended to go to the Visual novels task force. Breaking all of those links wouldn't be optimal. It has almost no utility, so a disambig page would not be useful compared to its maintance burden. Ca talk to me! 13:56, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, per Ca. I don't know the etymology of the WP:V/N → RSN redirect, but going by the stats it's far far less used than WP:RSN (~10 monthly hits vs ~1500), so it doesn't look like a common source of confusion. Can't see a reason to change it, so keep. BugGhost🪲👻 07:43, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- I believe it means "verifiability noticeboard". OzzyOlly (talk) 17:19, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oh yeah of course - thanks BugGhost🪲👻 17:44, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- I believe it means "verifiability noticeboard". OzzyOlly (talk) 17:19, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate create a new redirect for Visual Novels WP:VG/VN -- the task force is inactive, so it is not a productive use of this redirect, for such a common abbreviation for Vietnam. The WP:SURPRISE of landing at an inactive TF, instead of the country WPP or a dab page is overwhelming. Replace all existing incoming links with the new redirect. -- 64.229.90.32 (talk) 13:55, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Similar disambiguation pages in WP-space include WP:PT (with WP:PT (disambiguation) redirect) and WP:1st (disambiguation), etc -- 64.229.90.32 (talk) 20:57, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 08:26, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, I'm not convinced that going back to change all the incoming links is worth it. The hatnote already takes care of people looking for WP:V/N or WP:VIET. I did create WP:VG/VN per the IP's suggestion though. Nickps (talk) 11:00, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- It's also not possible for links in edit summaries. Those will be broken no matter what. Nickps (talk) 11:19, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Crows in popular culture[edit]
- Crows in popular culture → Cultural depictions of ravens (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Redirect leads to Ravens. Which is a different bird. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 16:54, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Corvus#Cultural depictions, which covers this topic. - Eureka Lott 18:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Corvus#Cultural depictions per EurekaLott --Lenticel (talk) 00:25, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Corvus#Cultural depictions 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 05:07, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget per above BugGhost🪲👻 12:16, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep and WP:RM. The current target also covers crows so I'd rather see a name change to reflect that. Probably something like Cultural depictions of corvids. -- Tavix (talk) 20:05, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep and move target to Cultural depictions of corvids or Cultural depictions of ravens and crows (I prefer the latter, per WP:COMMONNAME, but don't object to Tavix's suggestion either), while also updating the lead section of that article to mention crows as well, because the body of the article definitely includes crows pretty prominently alongside ravens. Fieari (talk) 23:59, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: the Cultural depictions of ravens article currently mentions crows a few times, but I wouldn't say that it covers the subject. The article could be modified to expand its scope, but that's outside the purview of RFD. We shouldn't base our decision here on a hypothetical repurposing of another article. - Eureka Lott 17:12, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Stavros Kremos[edit]
non-sense redirect InterComMan (talk) 11:21, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Presumably Stavros Kremos is a person somehow connected to the company, but as he is not mentioned at the target article, the redirect should be deleted. --Un assiolo (talk) 22:28, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Per nom. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 05:11, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Albumoftheyear.org[edit]
- Albumoftheyear.org → Album of the Year (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I am not sure the website url redirecting to a disambiguation page which does not list anything related to the website is useful. There is nothing at the target page for people seeking information about the site, and it does not appear to be notable. NØ 09:57, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. The website was mentioned at the disambiguation page, but it was (appropriately) removed in April. - Eureka Lott 13:41, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Not mentioned at the target. --Un assiolo (talk) 22:35, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 00:25, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: per nom. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 05:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Siddiqui[edit]
Current target Muslim Kayastha is very specifically referring to a community in a region in India. Meanwhile this name found all over Pakistan and Bangladesh as well among unrelated communities. (e.g the name is listed here as a Sindhi name as well List of Sindhi tribes (in the "others" section) Kowtis (talk) 09:05, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not very knowledgeable in the subject, but I would suggest converting to disamb page here, unless there's a clear primary topic that someone can explain.
Note: this is an RfD nomination that I've helped out with on behalf of User:Kowtis who had trouble doing it themselves, they have explained to me on their talk page that this redirect should be retargeted to Siddiqui (name). — AP 499D25 (talk) 10:32, 6 July 2024 (UTC)- Would it be better to move Siddiqui (name) to Siddiqui? --Un assiolo (talk) 22:30, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Pinging @Kowtis for response — AP 499D25 (talk) 02:31, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Would support redirecting Siddiqui to Siddiqui (name) instead, but if it's not feasible would support moving the latter to the former as well. Kowtis (talk) 05:29, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Would it be better to move Siddiqui (name) to Siddiqui? --Un assiolo (talk) 22:30, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
Rajeshwari Vilas Coffee Club[edit]
- Rajeshwari Vilas Coffee Club → Zee Telugu (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned in target. Is a series aired on that channel, may belong at List of programmes broadcast by Zee Telugu but that page is up for deletion. Rusalkii (talk) 21:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Likewise Seethe Ramudi Katnam Rusalkii (talk) 22:35, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- ...and very very many others, all of which created by an editor blocked for paid editing User talk:RahulBodke. Propose to delete the lot. Rusalkii (talk) 22:40, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- If it belongs there, someone needs to add an entry. (And maybe add some sources, that list article is rather light on those.) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 22:39, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: List of programmes broadcast by Zee Telugu is not, nor was up for deletion. Jay 💬 15:03, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oops, no idea what I managed to mix up with it. Thanks for the catch! Rusalkii (talk) 21:44, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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Raymoo[edit]
- Raymoo → List of Touhou Project characters#Reimu Hakurei (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
raymoo hackery is a name generally only seen in shitposts, and i'd honestly be surprised if anyone not nose deep on every touhou rabbit hole knew about it. fittingly, not mentioned in the target, implausible as an actual search (unless you're me), and google gave me nothing reliable cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:03, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Tentative Keep and tag as meme. It's plausible that someone finds one of said shitposts, doesn't know how the original name is spelled, and searches "raymoo" to find info on Reimu. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 22:53, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Tentative Keep. I personally believe that it is a genuine misspelling or respelling, but you would probably be hard-pressed to find a reliable source that mentions it being a meme or shitpost. Honestly, I don't even remember making this redirect in 2012, but I doubt that "Raymoo Hackery" ever crossed my mind since we would be discussing a "Raymoo Hackery" redirect as well. Regardless, the outcome doesn't really matter to me, so do what you may. — Nameless(?) 13:09, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- in your defense, it's funny cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:18, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Not mentioned at target. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:56, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. I doubt Wikipedia would be the first place a person searching for info on Reimu would turn to. --Un assiolo (talk) 22:33, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: per nom. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 05:14, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia:PDP[edit]
- Wikipedia:PDP → Wikipedia:Protection policy#Creation protection (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Hasn't been used in over a decade, and it's much more likely someone coming here may be looking for proposed deletion patrol. I recommend converting to disamb page.
P.S. I tried adding a 'redirect' hatnote over at the protection policy page pointing over to the PROD patrol Wikiproject page, but this was rejected by someone else, who suggested in the edit summary to "convert to disamb page" as it apparently hasn't been used since 2007. — AP 499D25 (talk) 05:52, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Support. Everyone uses WP:SALT nowadays instead. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 14:22, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:47, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Wikipedia:WikiProject Proposed deletion patrolling per the nom's logic. The problem with disambiguating a shortcut is then it can't be used as a shortcut. -- Tavix (talk) 19:59, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget/Comment - I'm honestly unsure of what PDP is even supposed to stand for with regards to creation protection, and as such I'd support just retargeting it to proposed deletion patrol... but I'm worried about historical talk page links getting broken (such as in WP:ANI archives). There's not MANY pages using this shortcut... if we change this redirect (which again, I agree is generally a good idea) would it be against policy to go and update the old links for safety? Fieari (talk) 00:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- FWIW it stands for Wikipedia:Protected deleted pages. Nickps (talk) 00:23, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Actually, yeah, retargeting to PROD Patrol Wikiproject would be even better than converting it to disamb page. This obscure shortcut to creation protection simply almost isn't used at all. I only said convert to disamb because that's what was suggested in the edit summary of the hatnote removal. For the like five uses of this shortcut on those 1.7 decade old archives, would piping the link (so it's
[[WP:SALT|WP:PDP]]
) work? That way the text is undisturbed but the link still brings you to the originally intended target. — AP 499D25 (talk) 02:42, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
July 5[edit]
SportAccord[edit]
- SportAccord → Global Association of International Sports Federations (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Removal/deletion of current redirect as it creates misleading impression. The redirect page reflects the name of a separate organization with its own initiatives whereas the target page reflects another organization that is now dissolved. In the current target page there's even a proposal on the Talk page from someone addressing this confusion. There should be a separate page and information about the redirect page of SportAccord JennyAnderson 2 (talk) 14:38, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hard to say, maybe we can just rename that GAISF article again to be SportAccord? Notified both WP:SPORTS and WP:Switzerland. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:22, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- It is hard, indeed. But I feel there would be value to having a separate SportAccord page as these are entirely different entities and it's tricky to combine them into one article efficiently as they have different structures, activities, missions. JennyAnderson 2 (talk) 09:27, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed, that's why that SportAccord has its own Wikidata item just because of entirely different entities, but then it meets own notability for separating? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:46, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- It is hard, indeed. But I feel there would be value to having a separate SportAccord page as these are entirely different entities and it's tricky to combine them into one article efficiently as they have different structures, activities, missions. JennyAnderson 2 (talk) 09:27, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep since it is mentioned at the target, so I honestly see no reason for deletion. This is clearly a plausible redirect, and a valid {{R from move}}. CycloneYoris talk! 21:33, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:42, 5 July 2024 (UTC)- Delete Even though it seems there's a connection between the two pages and organizations, SportAccord seems to have very different initiatives and a strong user following from people who attend the SportAccord events so there will be a benefit to distinguishing clearly the two organizations.
- Thomson.janet101 (talk) 10:49, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Garage Band (TV series)[edit]
Yellow plant[edit]
- Yellow plant → Heavy equipment (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
...because they're referred to as "plants" and are sometimes yellow? i don't get it. i'm not entirely sure if disambiguating or retargeting to a pre-existing disambiguation about something about things that are yellow and known as plants would be a better option than keeping or deleting, but will lean towards dabifying cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:10, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as vague --Lenticel (talk) 02:53, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Common term in UK and Ireland. Could be retargeted to Yellow goods (construction and agriculture). Stifle (talk) 07:42, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Retarget to Yellow goods (construction and agriculture) per Stifle. Tevildo (talk) 12:44, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget per above. If we had a list of plants (or flowers) that are yellow we could link the two by hatnotes but we don't. Yellow Flower and Yellow Flowers are not about flowers or plants and we appear to have no lists of any yellow things. Thryduulf (talk) 21:31, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Rodentolepis[edit]
Furiosa Road[edit]
metal age[edit]
- The Metal Age → Thief II (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Metal Age → Three-age system (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
different targets, and there's an article for the metal ages... which is itself divided into 3 ages, the last of which seems to be referred to as "the" metal age, even though they're grouped together because they're different metals. i'll vote for retargeting both of those to metal ages, unless someone actually knows their stuff cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:11, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate at Metal Age, then retarget The Metal Age there. I guess I know some stuff, and it looks like "Metal Age" or "The Metal Age" (both singular) could refer to:
- The Metal Ages (Copper, Bronze, Iron) in the traditional three age system, collectively – but this is more of a turn of phrase than a formal period [23][24][25]
- The Metal Age in the prehistory of Southeast Asia – a specific, formal period (presumably because bronze and iron arrived there simultaneously) [26][27][28][29][30][31]
- Hesiod's metallic ages (Gold, Silver, Bronze, Iron) [32][33][34]
- Thief II
- I don't see a primary topic amongst them and I'm also not sure about Metal Ages as standalone article, there's not much to say about them collectively other than that they all involved metal. @Iskandar323: What do you think? – Joe (talk) 07:54, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping Joe. I think they should both redirect to Metal Ages (though this should possibly move to the singular, both as best practice stylistically and apparently as the most common form in scholarship (Ngrams)). While the page as is stubby, it's for lack of attention, not for lack of material. The scholarly literature using the conceptual period grouping is considerable. The Metal Age in Southeast Asia might have a slightly different progression, but it is conceptually the same thing. Hesiod's idea within an idea mercifully has a quite different form. The Thief II title name is not something I think we need to be concerned with, any more than we need to disambiguate "resurrection" to account for the fourth installment of the Aliens franchise when directing to that topic. If a disambiguation page feels warranted, I would suggest linking to it with a hatnote from the Metal Ages page. Iskandar323 (talk) 09:56, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not too sure about combining the Metal Age of Southeast Asia and the "metal ages" of the rest of the world. In most of the Old World the Copper, Bronze, and Iron Ages are firmly distinct periods (the latter two being two of the original three ages) and referring to them together as either "the metal age" or "the metal ages" is honestly something I'd never come across until today (though Google Scholar tells me it happens). By contrast archaeologists of Southeast Asia consistently use it as a distinct, top-level period with the subdivisions early, developed, and proto-historic rather than copper, bronze, and iron. So we could write Metal Age Southeast Asia but not Metal Age Europe or Metal Age Southwest Asia because nobody really talks about that (instead we have Bronze Age Europe, Iron Age Europe). – Joe (talk) 10:57, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Perhaps. But it's somewhat academic at this point when a Metal Age of Southeast Asia page doesn't exist yet. I think the reason why the Metal Ages are emerging more and more as a reference point is because the three-age system is a bit dated and broken and underappreciates the major technology step of metallurgy. The stone age is also, in of itself, massive – comprising the paleolithic, mesolithic and neolithic, so it's generally pretty useless and unhelpful to group that with the bronze and iron ages, which are very distinct from the former. Iskandar323 (talk) 15:22, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not too sure about combining the Metal Age of Southeast Asia and the "metal ages" of the rest of the world. In most of the Old World the Copper, Bronze, and Iron Ages are firmly distinct periods (the latter two being two of the original three ages) and referring to them together as either "the metal age" or "the metal ages" is honestly something I'd never come across until today (though Google Scholar tells me it happens). By contrast archaeologists of Southeast Asia consistently use it as a distinct, top-level period with the subdivisions early, developed, and proto-historic rather than copper, bronze, and iron. So we could write Metal Age Southeast Asia but not Metal Age Europe or Metal Age Southwest Asia because nobody really talks about that (instead we have Bronze Age Europe, Iron Age Europe). – Joe (talk) 10:57, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping Joe. I think they should both redirect to Metal Ages (though this should possibly move to the singular, both as best practice stylistically and apparently as the most common form in scholarship (Ngrams)). While the page as is stubby, it's for lack of attention, not for lack of material. The scholarly literature using the conceptual period grouping is considerable. The Metal Age in Southeast Asia might have a slightly different progression, but it is conceptually the same thing. Hesiod's idea within an idea mercifully has a quite different form. The Thief II title name is not something I think we need to be concerned with, any more than we need to disambiguate "resurrection" to account for the fourth installment of the Aliens franchise when directing to that topic. If a disambiguation page feels warranted, I would suggest linking to it with a hatnote from the Metal Ages page. Iskandar323 (talk) 09:56, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep "The Metal Age", specifically, clearly refers to Thief II. There's no other convincing primary topic. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:16, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Zxcvbnm: How do you figure that? I don't think scholarly literature refers to the game. Iskandar323 (talk) 13:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Tristan Tate[edit]
- Tristan Tate → Andrew Tate (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete as misleading. This redirect was created a minute after the second deletion discussion closed, first pointing to the whole article and then to a subsection concerning the Romanian case(s), on what seems to me to be the very good reason that they are different people. During the GA drive this change was reverted. As it stands, the references to Tristan are sprinkled throughout the article, so it's hard to pick a single place to point the redirect at; but they are different people, and the current outcome suggests that to the unwary they aren't. Given the AfD outcome, I would suggest that deletion of the redirect and reliance on how search engines actually work is the best resolution of this so that those looking will get a succinct and accurate answer; failing that, the AfD could be reconsidered, or Andrew Tate's article could be so structured as to give a redirect some place to point to. The current arrangement, though, treats him like Zaphod Beeblebrox's second head. Mangoe (talk) 00:54, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment New RfD's go below the header, not above it. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:00, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Re-target to Andrew Tate#In Romania: 2022–present per WP:BLP1E, where is he referenced under "Tate brothers" (that can be amended to "Tate and his brother Tristan" for first usage). 1E was the strong argument for deletion of the article second time around, despite not being mentioned in the closing summary, so redirecting to any other part of the article doesn't make sense based on his notability. Additionally, a redirect that is used 20 times a day does appear useful, but being pointed at Andrew Tate directly can be confusing for readers, even if he is mentioned from the lead onwards. I'm not sure why TheMainLogan changed the redirect back in March. I'm otherwise convinced that this redirect existed long before March and that the page history is missing after the 2nd AfD, but could be wrong. Maybe an admin could clarify. CNC (talk) 01:52, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- I won't even lie, I pointed the redirect at Andrew directly because they're basically the same guy. —theMainLogan (t•c) 15:53, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- @TheMainLogan yeah but in my opinion, they are not. Tristan Tate is almost equally as well known as his brother, and is a different human being with his own life and internet personality. Sure, they live together, own the same cars, but they are still entirely different. Mr Vili talk 00:37, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- "Tristan Tate is almost equally as well known as his brother, and is a different human being with his own life and internet personality. Sure, they live together, own the same cars, but they are still entirely different." Then why shouldn't he have his own article? —theMainLogan (t•c) 03:55, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- @TheMainLogan yeah but in my opinion, they are not. Tristan Tate is almost equally as well known as his brother, and is a different human being with his own life and internet personality. Sure, they live together, own the same cars, but they are still entirely different. Mr Vili talk 00:37, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- I won't even lie, I pointed the redirect at Andrew directly because they're basically the same guy. —theMainLogan (t•c) 15:53, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete and Restore Tristan Tate Draft I believe the redirect should be deleted, and Tristan Tate is notable enough to have his own page, I suggest the original page be undeleted, and converted into a Draft where further editing can be done to the original page in order to move it into mainspace Mr Vili talk 08:46, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- While this isn't the place to debate notability (the talk page would be better) the source assessment in the 2nd AfD demonstrated only one article with WP:SIGCOV, hence notability was not proven beyond BLP1E. Since this AfD he is now accused in a second investigation in the UK, but per the closing summary of that AfD, WP:PERP is still an issue here. Even if another draft is worked on, the mainspace article still requires a decision on either deleting, keeping or redirecting. CNC (talk) 12:23, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Refine to the section per CommunityNotesContributor. This is without prejudice to the former article content being worked on in draft, but unless and until an article is accepted (and such an article would need to demonstrate notability unrelated to the single incident) readers are better served by the redirect pointing to the content in his brother's article. Thryduulf (talk) 10:58, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Keep or Refine? Also, in response to CNC's queries, the page history is missing after the 2nd AfD because the article was deleted at the AfD, and the page created fresh as a redirect. Prior to deletion, the article was turned to a redirect to Andrew Tate for a short time per WP:TNT, and reverted within 3 hours.
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Gallophone[edit]
Disidrose[edit]
JDX[edit]
Grand Duke of Hum redirects[edit]
- Sandalj Hranić, Grand Duke of Hum → Sandalj Hranić (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Vlatko Vukovic, Grand Duke of Hum → Vlatko Vuković (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Vlatko Vuković, Grand Duke of Hum → Vlatko Vuković (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Extension to bio's name in the article tile is misnomer in form of implausible noble title. ౪ Santa ౪99° 01:59, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - Article leads specify that they are Grand Dukes (of Bosnia), and have holdings in Hum... heck, Vlatko is specified to be a Duke of Hum. Seems plausible to me that someone would mash the two facts together when searching for this person. A redirect doesn't have to be accurate, and mistakes and misunderstandings are perfectly acceptable reasons to have a redirect. The target is also unambiguous here. Doesn't really matter if there actually is a "Grand Duke" title for Hum or not. Fieari (talk) 23:27, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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- A cursory Google Books search for "grand duke of hum" and "veliki vojvoda humski" don't turn up these people, but it does turn up some other people, Stjepan Vukčić Kosača, Miroslav, Vojislav. Santasa99 what is the actual significance of this title, if any? --Joy (talk) 23:03, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, guys! Duke of Hum exists as a title, Grand Duke of Hum does not/did not, and there is very clear record about every known/recorded local nobleman and how he used to title himself - so no mystery there. In case of Vlatko Vuković and Sandalj Hranić they did not use title Duke of Hum either, they always signed themselves or were mentioned in charters as Grand Duke of Bosnia only. Many other local noblemen, even of lesser status than Vuković, Hranić, and later Vukčić (all members of Kosača clan) wore the Duke of Hum title - such as Sankovićs, Nikolićs, Vlatkovićs, etc. - simply there was no such title as Grand Duke of Hum, there was only Grand Duke of Bosnia as a title. Of all Kosača members, only Stjepan Vukčić wore both titles, the Duke of Hum and Grand Duke of Bosnia, and also Knez of Drina and of Primorje, and he almost always used full title. There was also nobility from earlier periods, but as far as I know nobility in pre-Bosnian medieval state era mostly wore title of knez (knyaz/prince) and župan. In short, title Grand Duke of Hum never existed. ౪ Santa ౪99° 00:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I should have said from Early Middle Ages instead of pre-Bosnian state. ౪ Santa ౪99° 00:24, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- You can see every single recorded title in Konkordancijski rjecnik cirilskih povelja srednjovjekovne Bosne. ౪ Santa ౪99° 00:51, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, guys! Duke of Hum exists as a title, Grand Duke of Hum does not/did not, and there is very clear record about every known/recorded local nobleman and how he used to title himself - so no mystery there. In case of Vlatko Vuković and Sandalj Hranić they did not use title Duke of Hum either, they always signed themselves or were mentioned in charters as Grand Duke of Bosnia only. Many other local noblemen, even of lesser status than Vuković, Hranić, and later Vukčić (all members of Kosača clan) wore the Duke of Hum title - such as Sankovićs, Nikolićs, Vlatkovićs, etc. - simply there was no such title as Grand Duke of Hum, there was only Grand Duke of Bosnia as a title. Of all Kosača members, only Stjepan Vukčić wore both titles, the Duke of Hum and Grand Duke of Bosnia, and also Knez of Drina and of Primorje, and he almost always used full title. There was also nobility from earlier periods, but as far as I know nobility in pre-Bosnian medieval state era mostly wore title of knez (knyaz/prince) and župan. In short, title Grand Duke of Hum never existed. ౪ Santa ౪99° 00:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. --Un assiolo (talk) 14:57, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Kirby Wii (tenative title)[edit]
Kirby Wii[edit]
- Kirby Wii → Kirby's Return to Dream Land (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
not the only (or even first) kirby game on the wii, though it is known in japan as "星のカービィ wii", so my unspoken delete vote is slightly weaker than on kirby ds cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 13:11, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom.—Alalch E. 14:04, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Kirby (series) where the Kirby Wii games are discussed. The Wii section is primarily Kirby (series)#2011–2021: Evolution of 2.5D platforming although Kirby's Epic Yarn is (currently) in the previous section. -- Tavix (talk) 14:28, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget per Tavix. This is not an implausible search term for someone looking for Kirby games on the Wii, and we have relevant content so there is no reason not to be helpful. Thryduulf (talk) 21:40, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Byeol ui Kieby: Dauphin Ildang ui Seupgyeok[edit]
Kirby DS[edit]
there are 3 other kirby games on the ds, and squeak squad isn't even the first one cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 13:06, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom.—Alalch E. 14:04, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Kirby (series)#2005–2011: Touch-based gameplay where the Kirby DS games are discussed. -- Tavix (talk) 14:24, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Amoogus[edit]
CheckUser[edit]
CNR. Should we retarget to Wiki#Security? Ahri Boy (talk) 06:40, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Wiki#Security has no info on checkusers or equivalent functions. Checkusers are not something which beginner editors, who might not realize the existence of the Wikipedia namespace, would search up. Ca talk to me! 11:14, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: I think the question should be whether this is a potential useful redirect and whether it's unambiguous. I think it is, on both accounts. It being a cross-namespace redirect does not mean it's not useful. Those types of redirects aren't covered under WP:CSD R2, meaning, in certain cases, they're allowed. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:45, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- All Google results appear to be for Wikipedia and I'm not sure if there is much non Wikipedia usage. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:40, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Note that there is also Checkuser which should also be deleted or retargeted if this is closed as delete or retarget. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:49, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
June 25[edit]
Brexit means breakfast[edit]
Furiosa Road[edit]
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 5#Furiosa Road
Minor league player redirects[edit]
Peanut butter burger[edit]
Karli Smith[edit]
Ruby and Sapphire[edit]
1.7 International Networking Working Group[edit]
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 4#International Networking Working Group
Frank Blackmore (Emmerdale)[edit]
Sdn Bhd[edit]
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 3#Sdn Bhd
Chhota Bheem 1[edit]
Factory owner[edit]
Drake LaRoche[edit]
Kristian Taska[edit]
Hendrik Sal-Saller[edit]
Template:WikiProject Open Access/OAFD[edit]
Emigration from North Korea[edit]
The Hollies' Greatest Hits (1968 West German album)[edit]
- The Hollies' Greatest Hits (1968 West German album) → The Hollies (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I can't find anything in Enwiki about a 1968 album, here, or at The Hollies discography (which in any case would be a better target). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:27, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Hollies' Greatest, a 1968 Greatest Hits album by The Hollies that was released in Germany. Thryduulf (talk) 09:51, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget per Thryduulf - looks like that's the intended article BugGhost🪲👻 09:07, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Hollies' Greatest is a British album released by Parlophone. Per the edit history, the West German album was released by Hansa Records. The track listings are also different, which all but confirms these are different pressings. -- Tavix (talk) 16:12, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- I can't find any non–user generated sources, but I'm fairly certain that the West German album and Hollies' Greatest are in fact separate (they seem to have separate covers for one), so that is not a good retargeting option. Retargeting to the discography would be a good option if it was on there, but it's not, and I know too little about the area to properly search for sources to add it to the discography. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 21:48, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Relisting comment: Retarget or delete?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 04:35, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Agree with Tavix and Skarmory that there is no target. Restore and tag as unreferenced. Jay 💬 17:58, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Tom (programming language)[edit]
Druisk[edit]
June 13[edit]
Talk:COVID-19/Current consensus[edit]
Kazakh Guide Association[edit]
Matriotism[edit]
Peanut butter burger[edit]
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 25#Peanut butter burger
Fourth mode of transport[edit]
Intruder alert[edit]
Ruby and Sapphire[edit]
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 25#Ruby and Sapphire
2024 Dublin Bay North by-election[edit]
Intruder Alert! Intruder Alert![edit]
Technical music[edit]
Bienver metal[edit]
Under the influence of alcohol[edit]
Electric Turbo[edit]
- Electric Turbo → Porsche Taycan (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The Porsche Taycan 'Turbo' models don't actually have a turbocharger, it's just a namesake for a higher-performance model of a car. In that sense, it's kinda misleading. I did a google search, and 'electric turbo' doesn't seem to be a common nickname for the Taycan Turbo models either. Now, looking at retarget options, there does exist electric supercharger (I know technically there's no such thing as an "electric turbo" but that's what {{R from incorrect name}} is for), but having a look at that article, there also exists electrically-assisted turbocharger, so I'm not sure where to retarget it to. — AP 499D25 (talk) 06:27, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Disambig between electrically-assisted turbocharger and electric supercharger. The term seems to be used for both. Thryduulf (talk) 09:25, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to electrically assisted turbocharger - most logical destination for someone searching the term. --Sable232 (talk) 14:44, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Retarget or disambiguate?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 17:18, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate the term can also refer to electric-motor-assist power boost (ie. hybrid vehicle with electric assist drive mode, to add power to the gasoline engine's power output) as "turbo" can just refer to a power boost. -- 64.229.90.32 (talk) 07:55, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Retarget to electrically assisted turbocharger per Sable.I tried drafting a dab, but could not. Electric supercharger has electrically assisted turbocharger as a section, so I do not know if non-turbocharger superchargers are known as Turbo too. Jay 💬 05:55, 28 June 2024 (UTC)- Struck in favour of the below. I don't know if "Electric Turbo" is used to refer to even electrically-assisted turbocharger. Jay 💬 08:29, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete at this capitalisation, which infers a proper noun. Electric turbo is red. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:09, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per Shhhnotsoloud. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:25, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Revisit by the nominator: I would agree with deletion of this particular redirect, recommended by the voters above. The capitalised 'T' does make it sound more like a brand name than a noun. I ran a trademark search (e.g. [35]), and it's not registered anywhere. — AP 499D25 (talk) 05:21, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm still in favour of disambiguation. The term is used in the real world for multiple encyclopaedic things - disambiguation exists to deal with that exact scenario. It can be moved to the lowercase title or a redirect created from that capitalisation, whichever is preferred, as long as people using this search term don't find a red link that's what matters. Thryduulf (talk) 19:00, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- You may draft one, if you see it feasible. As I mentioned, I tried, and could not come up for your two suggested entries. Jay 💬 21:17, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Szökés[edit]
Conjunctival pallor[edit]
Anagrams as establishment of priority[edit]
Hurt (Witt Lowry song)[edit]
June 12[edit]
Orange star[edit]
Doug Lawrence[edit]
French-speakers outside of Quebec[edit]
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 20#French-speakers outside of Quebec
Ragnarock music[edit]
Untitled Beetlejuice sequel[edit]
Raisi[edit]
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 29#Raisi
Roman Catholid Diocese of Down and Connor[edit]
IRC +10414[edit]
- IRC +10414 → IRC −10414 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Procedural listing; a previous RfD was closed with a consensus to retarget, but InTheAstronomy32 has reverted this. SevenSpheres (talk) 18:44, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as a misspelling. I changed the redirect target because i believe that 'IRC +10414' is a misspelling of IRC -10414 and is the better redirect target so far. An article about this star likely will be never created due to notability issues. InTheAstronomy32 (talk) 18:48, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Two-Micron Sky Survey per previous RFD. IRC +10414 refers to this star, not IRC -10414, which is this star. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:48, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete This was never an article, and it isn't mentioned at either target. No pageviews in the last month. I really don't see how this redirect is helpful. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 00:18, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Agreed with Presidentman here and Kusma from the prefious RfD, but I'd like to add that the naming scheme of the star is very intentional (from Two-Micron Sky Survey:
index consists of two numbers - declination rounded to multiplier of 10 degrees, with sign, and star ordinal number within declination band
) and if you typo the sign you should expect to be taken to a different star or nowhere. ― Synpath 23:20, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 10:43, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget per the consensus of arguments in the previous RfD, which I find more compelling than the alternatives. Thryduulf (talk) 11:52, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, not mentioned at Two-Micron Sky Survey, and people looking for the other star and making the typo might believe that the star actually doesn't have a standalone article, while a red link can be more indicative of them having made a typo. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 19:22, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 17:33, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete it isn't a usable misspelling since it is a different star. That star is not currently in Wikipedia. so either stub up an article, or delete the redirect -- 64.229.90.32 (talk) 08:04, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- An article about IRC +10414 is likely to be never created, it is just a faint Mira variable that fails WP:NASTRO. Deleting also would not be helpful, it is better to retain this page as a redirect to IRC -10414 since it is a plausible misspelling. 21 Andromedae (talk) 19:12, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note to closers that user 21 Andromedae was formerly called InTheAstronomy32 alluded to in the nomination, and who voted under the former name. Jay 💬 03:15, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Redirecting to a two-paragraph stub that does not mention the term is far more confusing than helpful. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:29, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Then just redirect with IRC -10414 as i suggested. 21 Andromedae (talk) 21:40, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
Metal (group)[edit]
बालवीर[edit]
Wikipedia:Michael Aarons[edit]
Bible Videos[edit]
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 20#Bible Videos
June 1[edit]
2023-24 Major Clubs Limited Over Tournament[edit]
LATAM[edit]
1930–31 Notre Dame Fighting Irish men's basketball team[edit]
- 1930–31 Notre Dame Fighting Irish men's basketball team → Notre Dame Fighting Irish men's basketball (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Redirect should be deleted so editors know which seasons still need to be made, otherwise every season would be a redirect. poketape (talk) 21:45, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to List of Notre Dame Fighting Irish men's basketball seasons: It's a possibly useful redirect and the fact that redirects for all of the seasons haven't been created doesn't mean that this isn't useful. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:10, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Note page history.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J947 ‡ edits 23:38, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Looking at {{Notre Dame Fighting Irish men's basketball navbox}}, blue links are articles, not redirects. 1930–31 is the odd one out, and gives the false impression that we have an article on it. Reywas92's edit summary while making the redirect said
merge to main
, but I don't see that a merge was done. Jay 💬 04:08, 12 June 2024 (UTC) - Restore article. The "merge" (actually just a redirect) by Reywas92 was under the mistaken rationale that it was not an article. It seems like the actual reasoning would be due to a dispute at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1979–80 Notre Dame Fighting Irish men's basketball team, which was kept. Of course this article would need to be expanded, but something is better than nothing. -- Tavix (talk) 18:08, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete or Retarget per Hey man im josh, as the list of seasons was split off after I redirected the page. A merge was in fact already done because there was literally nothing to merge and the main article already had all the information this had (none but the duplicative infobox) but perhaps the summary could have been clearer. No, a single tautologial sentence is not an article and is not better than nothing, it's a disservive to readers. Reywas92Talk 00:08, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- In order for it to be a merge, some information from the article has to be moved to the new location. There is no evidence of that having been done before your redirection, so
a merge was in fact already done
is also incorrect. (The target at the time of redirection does not show any additional information for the 1930–31 season.) The page was tagged as a WP:STUB, which is explicitly defined as an article in the first sentence of the guideline (and elsewhere). -- Tavix (talk) 12:49, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- In order for it to be a merge, some information from the article has to be moved to the new location. There is no evidence of that having been done before your redirection, so
- Retarget to the list per above. The dispute about whether this was merged versus BLARed and whether it was or was not an article is irrelevant now. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:20, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete because it has nothing that is not already on the list and user will easily find the list without the redirect and we better havce a red link just in case someone wants to create a proper article. Restore is a second choice. - Nabla (talk) 23:24, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. I don't feel that the previous article is worth restoring to at this point, and having the redirect around could be misleading per Jay. The red link may also encourage creation of another article that can be assessed against the notability guidelines. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 18:49, 7 July 2024 (UTC)