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How would Polish nobles sign it?

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We promise that to ourselves and to our friends and friends of our friends, that we, who are signed under it, will defend the worked solution with our words, deeds and actions, that we will consider compromise as our own, and we will act together, commonly against any person, vandal or misguided, who would try to violate it, but only with accordance to wikipedia rules and without violation of our consciences and feudal privileges(^w^w oops too much reading Polish treaties :))) ). We will act agaisnt such persons with all our might, all our anger and until such person, no matter who they will be, will either cease to violate compromise or join it. We promise ourselves, as equal with equals, free people with free people, that we won't abandon our compromise, we won't change it without agreement of anyone else, we will stand united and indivisible.

(Hundreds and hundreds of signatures follows)

-)

Szopen 11:11, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I noticed a couple of errors. Danzig became part of Prussia in 1793. It was a free city until 1939, not 1933. I would suggest, however, that we give the options of 1) always refer to it as Gdansk; 2) refer to it as Gdansk before 1793 and after 1945, Danzig in between; 3) refer to it as Gdansk before 1308 and after 1945, Danzig in between. Otherwise it looks good. The vote should be announced to the various places where votes are announced, so that we get people besides our usual folks. john k 15:10, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing the errors. About the voting options: This has the problem that votes may be split. See this example for options 1-3 above:
  • (1) 4 votes
  • (2) 3 votes
  • (3) 3 votes
In this case, (1) wins, even though 6 people prefer it to be Danzig between 1793 and 1945.
Additionally, we should also decide on the voting period, and the winning margin. We could put it up now for discussion, start the vote on Monday 21st, and have a duration of 2 (3?) weeks. I would list it on Wikipedia:Current surveys and Wikipedia:Announcements, and maybe even list it on the Recent Changes header. The RC header should also be announced on the Admin noticeboard (and get more exposure?). I would also contact users related to the various edit wars on their talk page. As for the counting, I think an absolute majority (50% or more) wins. Sockpuppets and users with very low edit count or very new at Wikipedia may be excluded. (On previous instances, notices appeared on foreign language wikis asking people to vote here). Any thoughts? -- Chris 73 Talk 23:56, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)

I would concur, although I generally think that the 1466-1793 period should be treated as a whole, unless Szopen would care to explain how Danzig/Gdansk's position changed after the union with Lithuania. john k 03:03, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I merged the sections. I will move the page to the GDansk namespace soon and add a comment on the Gdansk talk page. Voting starts on Monday, I guess. -- Chris 73 Talk 03:10, Feb 16, 2005 (UTC)

Madgeburg Cathedral

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Hi Chris. I'm new to Wikipedia and just came back from a trip to Madgeburg and visited the Cathedral. I got a tour of the organ by Barry Jordan. I attempted to update your article (please excuse any errors and I'm a new user) as it stated that the organ had not been installed yet. Barry confirmed it was installed on May 18, 2008 and I cross referenced this with an update to this web site: http://www.magdeburgerdommusik.de/html/the_new_west_organ_and_future_.html

Also, Barry told me there were over 5,500 pipes and that the funds raised were 2.2 million euros vs. 2.0.

I wanted to alert you to my attempted Organ section revision referenced above, that I may be going back in May 2012 and could validate and/or take photos as needed and suggest your consider an update to the Architecture section as follows:

In your Architecture section you correctly reference that "Unlike most other Gothic cathedrals, Magdeburg Cathedral does not have flying buttresses supporting the walls." I would like to recommend this concept be expanded to mention that also missing from traditional Gothic design in this Cathedral is a Gallery and Triforium. Essentially the Clerestory sits directly on top of the Arcade aisle wall.

How's this?

"Unlike most other Gothic cathedrals, Magdeburg Cathedral does not have flying buttresses supporting the walls. The Cathedral is also missing several other Gothic architectural elements including the Gallery and Triforium. The Clerestory windows are positioned directly on top of the Arcade aisle wall with no Gallery nor Triforium stages." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdberardi (talkcontribs) 23:01, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]